Karlaftis hasn't hit Burrows with such intensity that the entire city of Cinci collapses in on itself.

Not good enough.

*****The George Karlaftis Thread*****
 

Wrong thread. My b.

This was Karlaftis 1st good game in the regular season after being the pre-season MVP.

Keep it up, but this thread was thread was dead silent after the Houston game.

a speed sack and a tipped ball that ended two drive, plus a TFL

he good

Shut up bitch

Are you blind?

Like this thread after the Texan game

I just can't believe a Chiefs fan would be so upset when one of our 1st rounders starts to emerge as a stud.

Why are you such a sore loser?

It's a start, let's see if he continues but this peaks & valleys type of stuff now.

I said he had a good game

Has had a sack 4 of his last 5 games. Not to mention PDs. And TFLs. :thumb:

How about now?

Offs. He’s a rook; rooks do that when they’re rooks. Eat your crow and be done with it.

There's no crow, I said he had a good game and didn't make fuss after the Houston game in this thread.

I think he may have come up with his own sig move today. He looked like he was doing an impersonation of pirate unsheathing a sword after big plays.

LMAO @ this butt****ing moron acting like it's his first good game

LOL, I gave a compliment but it's still not good enough. Let's see if he'll be consistent or he'll be a streaky player. A good game then JAG for the next 3.

Yeah he was good. No idea why you think this is a gotcha from what I said.

karlaftis is going to finish with 7 or 8 sacks and win the Mack Lee Hill Award

Tribal can suuuuck it

You clearly don’t watch the games

So a first year rookie has to get multiple sacks every game to be considered good? Geez dude...

LOL, it's not all or nothing. Most of his plays were made because of good coverage specifically when Mcduffie returned. He legit owned Seattle's line today. Let's not put George int he HOF yet until he becomes consistent

With Chris Jones being triple teamed, and some touting in this very thread that he's Justin Smith 2.0 after a good pre-season yeah I thought we were going to see what Frank Clark should've been.

But peaks and valleys. If KC had drafted who he wanted and that player was playing like George he would be ecstatic. This is about him not liking a guy and and being overly critical.

7 passes defended-leads the NFL.

Yeah, he sucks-lol

He’s been pretty good. Not a world-beater but a solid addition.

He’s only 21 years old and has gotten progressively better and better. Really expect him to be a finished product when he’s 23 but I’m really happy with what we’ve gotten from him so far

Because you said there's been no "huge or obvious growth" throughout the season and he has 4 sacks in his last 5 games.

How do you square that statement with this sudden uptick in production during his rookie campaign?

I love the energy this kid brings to the defense. Another off-season lifting program and he will be a Beast next year.

4 sacks in the last 5 games. 5 QB hits 4 TFLs.

That’s a trend, not one game.

And 7 knocked down passes!

As I said it occurred when Mcduffie returned and plastering WRs getting coverage sacks.

This was his 1st honest good game in the regular season when he beat his guys 1 on 1 without being a step late or whiffing.

Mcduffie is the unsung hero here.

Yeah you definitely don’t watch the games

Yep, look at the spike in his play the Rams game which Mcduffie came back healthy.

Damn Trent is doing a hell of a job but it's all George.

we've seen enough good things from him during his rookie season to expect him to only get better. Next year and especially the year after, our defense should be seasoned and I'm kinda thinking it could be dominant. You gotta give them a year or two at least jeez

Alot here can't take compliments, and go overboard like he's a future HOFer.

We're saying you were being a giant butthead for essentially bitching about the lack of sacks from a 21-year old rookie DE.

Which you were.

He's ****ing 21, man.

George has had a way better rookie year than 22 year old Chris Jones did in his.

I agree!

He was also playing as a 3-4 DE, and not a 3 tech as he is now

Which gives the opportunity for more production, not less.

Not the way he was suppose to be play. As a 5 tech Chris Jones was getting heat from the coaching staff for ripping and releasing OG/ OTs into the second level for the LBs to deal with. KC hired Spags implementeing the 4-3, then CJ flourished being one of the best DTs in the league

Because he wasn't playing hugely different. Do you think he was a bad player before those sacks came? Presumably not. I said after the Broncos game he'd had a couple of promising games that hinted at development. After this game I'd say there's a little more again to make that argument. But I'm not one of the guys whose obsessed by his lack of sacks. I kinda want to see how much he's winning as well.

Also, I'm happy to be wrong and for him to go on an absolute tear now. Merry Christmas.

Because he wasn't playing hugely different. Do you think he was a bad player before those sacks came? Presumably not. I said after the Broncos game he'd had a couple of promising games that hinted at development. After this game I'd say there's a little more again to make that argument. But I'm not one of the guys whose obsessed by his lack of sacks and thinks it the be all and end all.

Also, I'm happy to be wrong and for him to go on an absolute tear now. And Merry Christmas TwistedChief hope you have a good one.

Trey Hendrickson got two and a half sacks in his first two years in the league. I think GK is gonna be dominant in the years ahead tbh.

Jones seemed great at 3-4 right end, maybe not his rookie year but after that

Yeah I'm pretty optimistic he's going to be very good in the long run. Maybe not dominant but something closer to DJ's prediction. Think he'll need a big step forward next year and I think that's entirely possible.

So CJ wasn’t one of the best DTs in the league in 2018 the year before Spags arrived when he had 15.5 sacks? And then didn’t break 9 in the 4-3 until this season?

Before that 2 then 6 sacks, so yeah collectively he's had better run with the 4-3 if you want to split hairs



So Karlaftis is going to possibly be a future HOFer? He's had one legit good game, that wasn't absolutely influenced by the return of Mcduffie.

So much LOL.

You’re literally talking about CJ at the beginning of his career progressing upward and making it seem like it was a scheme thing rather than experience in his first couple seasons where he had 2 and 6.5 sacks respectively. It’s okay - you can admit that you had no clue he had that productive of a season under the old scheme.

Second, where did I say anything about Karlaftis as a future HOFer? What words are you attempting to put into my mouth or is this how you deflect when your arguments are weak?

Third, talk about a weak argument… confusing correlation with causation and really thinking it’s the presence of McDuffie that has led to this uptick in sacks. McDuffie’s first 3 games back Karlaftis had 0 sacks. Much more likely it’s a function of gaining more experience than some natural advantage McDuffie has provided.

Do you believe Chris Jones could be HOFer, because after the Pestilence comment you jumped in with your interjection that his career trajectory will be the same as Jones ascension.being elite using that as a Red Herring .

Mcduffie's return coming back from injury shaking off the rust was the catalyst. The QB's were holding on the ball longer thus Karlaftis had his coverage sacks against Burrow, Wilson, disappeared in the Texans game which some were predicted a 2+ sack game, and dominated the Seattle game on his own steam. George missed tackles are very high in general hence pressures are the "new hidden TDs" jab.

He had a good game against Seattle I won't take that from him, but it's foolish not to believe McDuffie's help Karlaftis prior to the Seahawks game.

Do you believe Chris Jones could be HOFer, because after the BigCatDaddy comment you jumped in with your interjection that his career trajectory will be the same as Jones ascension.being elite using that as a Red Herring .

Mcduffie's return coming back from injury shaking off the rust was the catalyst. The QB's were holding on the ball longer thus Karlaftis had his coverage sacks against Burrow, Wilson, disappeared in the Texans game which some were predicted a 2+ sack game, and dominated the Seattle game on his own steam. George missed tackles are very high in general hence pressures are the "new hidden TDs" jab.

He had a good game against Seattle I won't take that from him, but it's foolish not to believe McDuffie's help Karlaftis prior to the Seahawks game.

THIS JUST IN: Having good teammates often helps a player make plays! Shocking discovery!

No joke, I gave Karlaftis a compliment but now it seems we should be polishing his Canton bust instead.

I'm pretty happy with what we've gotten out of George in his rookie year! He definitely brings the pressure and will only get better.

I think he becomes a solid 8-10 sack a year starter fory ears to come. Do you disagree and think that's a good pick late in the first if that's what he becomes?

He has definitely turned it up lately on the pass rush. And when he can't get to the QB, he's pretty good at getting his hands up.

Except it’s a backhanded compliment. The kid has been improving every week. Despite the facts showing such you are still saying that he is playing in peaks and valleys or crediting his success to McDuffie’s return. No one here is saying he is a HOF player, but you are being overly critical for no reason more than you never wanted him here.

It's that water polo background. It comes in handy.

Get it? HANDY.

I want him to prove me wrong but if you have to look hard for improvement then it isn't enough because after the 4th game that's when I got critical.

I'll give people their due, but if it's strawman stuff trying to find improvement then it's BS. I want to he wrong without any wriggle room. Nick Bolton proved me wrong, OBJ well that discussion is still ongoing

I like George.

I also agree with this!

Except he has a sack in 4 of the last 5 games plus he leads all rookie DEs in deflected passes. He has 4.5 sacks on the year so far and was literally a step away from a Safety in the SF game. This isn’t hunting for obscure stats. He was drafted late in the first, not #1 or #2 overall. Based off his draft position he has performed well. Also he isn’t a player who started hot and fell off. He has gotten better as the season has worn on and that is exactly what you want from your rookie DE.

And amongst all rookies 3rd in sacks.

You refuse to accept that your position on Karlaftis was that of an impatient moron. And not only that, but you're pretty much doubling down on it by being a douche and peddling out the sarcastic strawman of LOL LET'S ENSHRINE HIM FOR CANTON NOW!

That's why we're continuing to call you stupid.

Agree!

How big of a moron do you have to be to double down...wow

I wonder which draft round will look the best in 3 years?

Bolton and Humphrey

Or

McDuffie and Karlaftis

Trent is having a great season, no question. And I've been pretty effusive with my praise for Trent the entire season.

But to say that George's recent production is solely the result of Trent's return to the field isn't accurate, imo.

George has been improving in several parts of his game, including chaining moves together. He's steadily improved in that area, and the results are being seen on the field on gameday, whether you choose to see it or not.

As for all the rest of your hyperbole, I'm not that interested. Right now, Karlaftis is a plus on the field, and I have high, but reasonable, hopes for him down the stretch, and into next season, but how high he'll go is really up to him.

He could explode to an all-new level that no one expected, or he could plateau, or a hundred other things could happen. But right now, he's improving, and right now he can help the team achieve their post-season goals, and trying to diminish his efforts/imprvements since week 1 seems kind of silly.

But it's Christmas, so I'm through rehashing this talking point for a while.

Merry Christmas, bud. Glad to shake your hand if we ever meet.

And to everyone here, and to all your loved ones.:Peace:



And, Merry Christmas, George, if you bother to read your thread in CP. Keep on keeping on, you're doing well.:clap:

Just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself.

Just take the L and move along.

Karlaftis is everything we hoped we were getting when we drafted him. Everything.

Is Tamba in the HOF? That's the only upside comparison I have seen discussed....

Impatient? Considering how well he played in the preseason then waiting till he showed something where alot of True Fan behavior with how well he pressured the QB. He was whiffing on tackles/sacks on Allen,Burrow,Herbert, Lawrence, David Carr while Chris Jones was being doubled teamed.

I want results, and not what could've happened because guys like Allen and Burrow who the Chiefs will face again will slice the Defense a new asshole if Karlaftis doesn't finish plays. The Seattle game was a good starting point where he did it on his own ability, and not because the secondary was shutting down WRs making the QBs hold on the ball longer.

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

And you've been trying your best to dismiss/ignore results until it finally became impossible to do so.

Exactly, no wriggle room. No interpretation or nuance just kicking opposition's ass

its time!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk7xcJ0X...g&name=900x900

He’s becoming a pita for opposing QBs

The Chiefs under Veach in the last few drafts have been just adding good football players.

This is why I loved this pick, screw over-analyzing things, add good football players and you have a high floor with room for more.

See also Bolton, Humphrey, etc

ROFL