Isn't JuJu around 6'2 230? He's a thickly built receiver and he delivers blows. Idk how to embed videos but that block on Vontaze Burfict comes to mind

They could make a couple of moves over the next week or two, after they get that bonus money restructured, that would improve the team.

1. Sign Juju.
2. Sign Kyzir White.
3. Sign a younger DE like Arden Key, Lorenzo Carter, Dorance Armstrong Jr.. Hell....even Derek Barnett would help.

Those moves wouldn't be expensive but they'd help fill in a couple spots on this roster. Then grab a DE and DT in the draft and bring in a veteran DE afterwards to round out that DE group.

He's not that big but he is a bigger WR. Built more like a RB IIRC...

He's listed as 6-1, 215.

The fact that Mathieu wasnt offered a contract makes me think he wouldnt be welcomed back.

Sweat hasnt really produced even at Frank Clarks level but i guess he is cheaper.

And JuJu might be realizing that he is just a complimentary weapon. He is what we hoped robinson would be. Never going to take over a game, but more than capable of the lay ups.

Dude - that's like David Boston numbers.

He's bigger than many, but more like 210 lbs rather than 230. Pringle is probably around 200.

Yeah, JuJu will hit guys. But so will Byron. Hell, so will that scrawny mouth-breather DeMarcus Robinson.

Doesn't mean I want to pay either of them an appreciable amount.

I wonder if Robinson is weighing a less-than-Kirk longer term offer from a shitty team vs a 1-year type deal from a contender with less cap space.

Totally baseless speculation. I just wonder if he's not getting the big money he expected.

KYZIR!!!

He's going to become my FA version of Hebron Fangupo. And we did sign Fangupo 2-3 years later, if my memory serves.

The problem was that he just kinda sucked. But in the end I really liked saying Fangupo so I regret nothing.

I will say one thing about red zone, and especially gold zone, passing TD's - for the Chiefs, those numbers probably ARE a good data point for predicting future numbers because of the sheer volume of passes the Chiefs throw in those situations. I would expect any WR playing in this system to have somewhat inflated TD numbers, including Juju if he comes here.

Sounds like a side dish at a fancy fusion restaurant.

Many of those really lousy teams who were willing to spend stupid money on mediocre players have already shot their wads.

I'm not sure there are any of those deals left in the market.

I honestly expected White to be gone. I'm not sure what his market looks like but I'm going to be pissed if he signs for something stupid like $4-5 million and it isn't with us.

"Patrick Peterson lists KC Chiefs as a preferred destination"

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2022/03/...immediate=true

Another day goes by and we still don't know how much cap space they actually have. Spotrac and OTC still have us $10 million over.

Neither of those guys are laying out linebackers 😅

I'm just saying what some guys have already said. I think AR is going to be too expensive. JuJu is more realistic and would be our third best WR

If he's cheap, bring him in.

Sure, but it doesn't demonstrate it as an actual skill. Like I said, it's a product of usage.

In other words, most swinging dicks can get gold zone TDs in this offense. Think of how many of those insane plays we've seen from Mahomes that went to guys like Conley, Robinson and Pringle.

The guy on the other end probably just doesn't matter very much and doesn't do a whole lot to create that score.

That's really my point - it's not demonstrative of any kind of repeatable skill from the WR that would make him worth more than any ol' replacement level sort of guy.

Okay that makes sense.

You know this is happening, right?

And then we'll re-sign Ben Niemann for about 70% as much as White gets to be 50% the ballplayer.

Looking at the LBs that couldn't find a market last year and then seeing that we gave that guy $1.5 million really does annoy the crap out of me.

And in other salary cap news....the Saints are now $29 million under the cap after restructuring basically every contract on the team.

They're also meeting with Deshaun Watson a second time today. They're currently the favorites to trade for him.

Robinson has absolutely blasted some guys.

Again, if there's one thing I won't criticize Robinson and Pringle for, it's their physicality. They're excellent downfield blockers and very willing hitters and receivers over the middle.

Oh of course it'll happen like that.

White is to much of a fit for us NOT to sign him. Plus our other LB contracts are ****ing cheap right now. Spags needs that 3rd LB like White and another athletic safety to round that group out.

Show me Kyzir White and Smoke Monday!

Good.

Because **** Tom Brady.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Browns notified they’re out of the running on Deshaun Watson, per team official.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504474482873757705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

Get ****ed Browns. Better see what you can get for Mayfield and then suck this year for the #1 pick.

Smoke Monday is gonna be a stud

And they've alienated Baker in the process. The only thing worse than having a QB like Mayfield is not having a QB at all.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> have been informed they’re out of the running for Deshaun Watson, a source says. The team still views Baker Mayfield as their quarterback going forward. They told Mayfield’s agents at the Combine they’d only explore top-tier QBs such as Watson.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1504474308982173701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They'll trade for Jimmy G. At best they're fighting for a wild card spot.

ROFL

So they basically told him they're wanting him gone, want to upgrade, but will settle for him if they fail.

That's like telling your wife who's a 6 that you'd only leave her for 9s and 10s. I'm sure that 6 is totally cool with that and won't throw a fit at all.

I dont think they care. They made it clear at the end of last season that they didnt give a **** about him. He was hurt pretty good and they put entire game plans on him. I think they were trying to make him look bad to the fans. And its more than possible that his attitude just might clash with coaching/management. I mean hes above average, when hes on hes pretty good, but when you are looking at the rest of the AFC landscape its hard to have eyes for Baker.

I still feel like Jalen Pitre might make it to the back of the 2nd and man he'd be a lot of fun to add to this defense.

I don't know if he's the best use of that pick, but I do like what he'd bring to the table.

A 4th round safety may be wiser given our needs elsewhere though.

Just let me have Devonte Wyatt and Sam Williams, dammit.

Same size and PFF grade as Ward.

I'm speaking that shit into existence.

Exactly what I would l or for us to do. Would definitely bring Ingram back for a good deal

Don't forget Alec Pierce or Jalen Tolbert with our other 3rd while you're at it. You can have Smoke in the 4th if I can have Kyzir in FA.

Then we just faaaaaaaaap and faaaaap and faap.

But not together. Because that would be weird.

(Unless you're into that sort of thing - I'll try anything once)

Dude....just imagine.

1. Devonte Wyatt, DT
2. Sam Williams, DE
3. Jalen Tolbert, WR
3. Zyon McCollum, CB
4. Smoke Monday, S

It won't ****ing happen but I can dream about that at night when I drift off to sleep.

Frustrated with our inactivity, or the appearance of inactivity, But on the same hand, you don't win the Super Bowl by going crazy in free agency. I thought that they would be a little quicker with converting bonuses to free up space and Tyreek's extension will help as well. But, we still show as 10m over the cap so I would think that something would have to give here

You can't convert said bonuses until you get to them...which is tomorrow.

There's just no way I'd keep that other 3rd rounder.

If Williams is there at 40, I'm calling every GM on the clock from that point forward and saying "Hey, wanna move to 62 if I throw in 94?"

Until someone says yes and I get Williams. I just wouldn't be able to talk myself into possibly losing out on him. ESPECIALLY if I already got a freak like Wyatt in the first.

I'd give up that 3rd just for the peace of mind. Because if one of these AFC assholes that have been dick-shooting us for the last week or so grabs him at like 58 because I didn't want to risk losing a 3rd in a trade up, I'd end up kicking myself forever.

I predict a JuJu signing on friday at 5pm. Not the home run most are looking for but you could do much worse than JuJu and Reid in a cap strapped FA period.

True.

I wonder if Veach is willing to throw in a 3rd from next year's draft since we'll have two then as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...mahomes-21751/

If I’m reading this right his bonus in 2022 is already guarantee. So they can move that money anytime now. Just has to be done before Friday.



63M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2020 salary + 2021 salary + 2021 roster bonus + 2022 salary + 2022 roster bonus)

Yeah we're getting into bump the 'KC signs Jack Shit' thread territory.

He was decent for us in the past!

I leave that shit to the people who know the cap better than I do.

They do this every single year yet we're here apparently over the cap but not restructuring anything yet.

What I tried saying but CP called me an idiot

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They can restructure whenever they want but have to do it before Fridays due date</p>&mdash; Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/1504205039744733188?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Go sit in the corner

I personally think the chiefs will only move his money if they have deals done with players before Friday. Remember the chiefs have 54m in cap space next year with only 21 players under contract. Next year is gonna be ugly.

You are an idiot.

I just don't feel like repeating myself.

Twitter is full of morons so it doesn't surprise me a great deal that you continue to just mindlessly regurgitate their nonsense.

Guaranteed /= triggered.

That’s Veach’s move to shut up the doubters. We’re gonna go into the season with those 27, plus our draft picks.... and win the ****ing SB!

Don’t know why you’re getting so mad he’s right. They can move Patrick money whenever deadline is Friday .

$54 million in cap space but go look at who's a FA. Thornhill and Hardman....and that's pretty much anyone of note. Plus they have an out in Chris Jones' contract if they want to get rid of him. If they bring him back then they can sign him to an extension. Plus I'm guessing Clark's contract is coming off the books as well.

You do know Jason is the founder of over the cap right? Or are you just a dumbass

As of now we do have 48 mil in cap space as of next year!!

Are you going off of overthecap? I don't think that cap number is accurate. They still have Frank Clark at his full previous cap number, not the new contract.

I think Veach got scalped by about $8 million from what I can gather.

I think the cap came in lower than even their 'conservative' estimates. And now they're scrambling.

So I bet they're hoping that next year is a bit of a catch up year and it goes up by more than it went last year.

But to be completely frank - every year is going to ugly for the next several. That's the point. As I've said since the Chris Jones conversations started in earnest - the league does not WANT a single team carrying 6-8 guys at/near the top of their respective markets. They want that talent spread out.

And they especially don't want it if one of those is a QB.

You just cannot have top of the market salaries for a QB, WR, LT, LG, TE and DT for any appreciable period of time. Especially when you WERE carrying top of the market salaries at S and DE prior to that which prevented you from banking rollover towards your adjusted cap.

You can shove 10 lbs of shit into a 5 lb sack for a little bit, but eventually it WILL burst.

There's a real argument to be made that it's time to stop shoving.

Yes but take away his money it’s gonna be around 70m for 31 players.

Juju gonna come here instead of having a chance to play with Turdbiski?

And then trade Chris Jones....and you have over $90 million. Restructure Mahomes and you have $126 million.

Yeah, you're out Jones but at this point...I'm not so sure they want him back after his current contract.

Lol 2024 chiefs 148m cap space but only 13 players under control. Boys we need all our draft picks. Need to stop trading them.

You do realize that's most teams at this point, right?

The Seahawks have $180 million and only 8 players.

Watson is reportedly down to the Saints and Falcons.

Get ****ed, Tom Brady.

No. No it is not.

First of all, Frank Clark is still carrying a $28M cap hit for 2023. That's going to be much less, possibly as much as $21M less, depending on how his deal was renogiated.

Second of all, they will have Orlando Brown and Tyreek Hill under contract. Those deals will eat up cap space (likely about $35M or so), but subtract Clark and add those two and you're still sitting around $15M in space.

And Mahomes and Jones have $55M in roster bonus/base salary. That number isn't going to stay the same.

They can shift some of Mahomes' roster bonus and likely will. They can/will make a long-term decision on Jones (extension or cut or trade) that lowers his number, too.

And they don't have any "home" guys that they will likely retain/extend at high cost. Thornhill, maybe, but it isn't going to be a HUGE deal.

Predicting cap pain for 2023 is premature and off base.

So your saying Allen Robinson will either be a Saint or Falcon?

We're getting Juju anyway.

Yes, please.

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You think that's scary? The 2035 Chiefs have NO players under control. If Veach isn't careful, they'll have to forfeit games.

For the Saints to get Allen Robinson...it would take a lot of cap work. It's more likely that the Saints get Jarvis Landry if they get Watson. They already have Michael Thomas.

Curious why he wouldn't want SEA with those WRs?

I think you're probably right

Houston beat reporter said he doesn’t wanna live on west coast

Makes sense for him I guess, he's also said to have ties to ATL ownership where he was a ball boy as a youngster.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Under terms of his restructured deal with the Chiefs, Frank Clark’s 2022 cap number is now $13.7M. <br><br>Kansas City freed up $12.6M in cap space with the move.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1504487121737814020?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This sounds about right. Really want to see what the structure looks like, especially the dead money. Still waiting for OTC and Spotrac to update the numbers.

Any Interest and Cole Beasley just got cut

This.

Not sure why this shit is taking so long. With a Mahomes restructure, we would be around $23ish million in cap space.