I agree

Not happening lulz

I think he can, that doesn't mean adding another great WR will hurt. How can you stop an offense of Hill, OBJ, Kelce and Hunt? I don't think we can afford OBJ but if we could, we would have the potential to have the best offense ever.
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did the Chiefs get Suh, Odell, Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins yet?????????????

Come on KC you're doing a terrible job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We (were rumored) already tried to trade Nelson and there were no takers.

I don't know why Conley would be worth anything...

I jut want to see some action, would be great if we were able to make 1 or 2 splashy signings.

Better yet, he doesn't think someone would out bid that offer.

I don't understand the fascination with Paul Richardson. Last year was his first with any meaningful playing time, and even then only put up 700 yards. (which is about half his career total)

If we're going after a WR, I'd rather spend the money on a proven playmaker like Robinson or Watkins.

On another note - people want Suh here after we just traded Peters for being an asshole?

LMAO

Probably

It would be better than the conditional they could get especially if they sign any other free agents.

He’s in the last year of his rookie deal and is gonna set the market at wr.

You’d essentially have to make Odell the highest paid wr and give up a pick

Hell it may not even take a 2nd

Someone in here wants Odell, an even bigger distraction and on top of that you'd have to pay him as the highest paid WR.

Entirely unrealistic pipe dream (as are most players people want the Chiefs to sign in this thread) as Clark would never sign off on that.

Much rather have Robinson than OBJ.

Too much bullshit comes with him. Give me Robinson all day.

Suh was never dismissed from his team in college or quit during a game then fought with a coach on the team bus.

When they sign obj, I’m owning everyone’s sig

I'm down dude, our offense would be unstoppable

You’ll be like the dude wetbutt23 that broke the Jose Quintana Cubs trade :)

No way. How could you say that dude? c’mon

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Robinson was a beast with Bortles and he’s going to cost us a lot less as well. Beckham, to me, is a drama queen. We don’t need that on our team.

God, you people are reeruned.

Stop dreaming about FA WRs. We don't ****ing need anybody.

"Our offense would be so much better!"

Fine. **** it. Go ahead and do it. Go back to the ****ing Vermeil years. See if I ****ing care.

I guess people like to dream but there is absolutely no chance that either Beckham or Robinson comes here.

The gm has basically said they’re gonna add an outside wr. Better get on board.

Plus with the salary cap and cheap qb, they can add to the defense at their own discretion.

I do think you are probably half right. OBJ may well get traded/cut cause Gettleman has a history of pulling random moves like that.

But there is no way the Chiefs are going to be the leading trade partner. Too many things working against you with the Chiefs pipe dream. Other teams have more cap space and more assets to give up. And also, the Hunts. That's your biggest roadblock to your Madden fantasy dream list.

The chiefs have the cap space and paired with him needing a new deal, a 2nd rounder would do it.

Dunno about the Hunts but we’ll see

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I'm ok with a "soft rebuild" this year.

And by that I mean perhaps a high round T/G and the rest spent on defense...

Sure, but it's not going to be any of this ridiculous lavish shit people are talking about.

Sure as **** won't be OBJ

It’s not time for a rebuild

Don’t waste the Mahomes cheap years rebuilding

It’ll be Watkins

Or Odell

Was tooling around with Spotrac this morning...

According to their metrics, Allen Robinson's market value AAV is $13M a season, Watkins is listed at $5.9M and Richardson at $6.3M.

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Chiefs trainer Allen Wright responded and said that Bailey is just remodeling. False alarm.

If they could get Watkins at that, I’d be all for it

I’m skeptical

ROFL

While I agree with this, I don't think its wise to spend a bunch of FA money under the belief that we are contending for a championship with a 22 year old QB with one game under his belt.

remodeling to up resale value?:hmmm::hmmm:

Only thing that makes sense, honestly. No way Bailey thinks that he’s on this team long term.

You better hope it's not Odell. If it is, I'm going to rape you.

I’ve always really liked Allen Bailey, but his cap hit has reached the point where it just simply won’t match his production. He’s had injury issues too.

That extra $6M in cap space this year could be used on a big time player or a couple of mid-tier guys, assuming the contract is backloaded.

Unless he will take a pay cut, I’d move on as soon as a replacement is found.

Paul Richardson reminds me a lot of Emmanuel Sanders when he was a FA. Both had very similar #’s and somewhat of a “breakout” season, but just like Sanders then, it’s clear that Richardson is still ascending and his best days are ahead of him. Mahomes throwing to him and Hill would really have DC’s shitting their pants.

Out of all the FA WR’s he has the best chance to live up to the deal he gets.

That’s how the Seahawks or Eagles approached it, and look what it got them...

Bailey has value and anyone who watched the Eagles, Patriots, Texans and Chargers game could see it. Biggest problem for him was that he was usually on Zombo’s side which meant no 1X1’s bc Zombo sucks ass.

The Chiefs need to keep this guy for 1 more year bc he does have value. I was hoping he would restructure, but it’s not a major concern as we’ll have enough cash.

Have you considered selling used cars?

Shaggy Shane:

https://youtu.be/JSLQopsq2-o

I’ll shit myself if Watkins only gets $5.9 million a season.

That guy on the right looks like what might have happened if the govt. used genetic research on Rausch's goatee 20 years ago.

Trim it. Just - trim it.

That dude drives me nuts sometimes. His take on the Peters situation was hard to listen to.

No shit, Dunerdr.

If Paul Richardson was anything resembling Sanders, SEA wouldn't be letting him to the market.

Robinson and Watkins have both proven to be elite talents/gamebreakers when healthy. Robinson is in no way in that category.

I enjoy both of them, solid guys.

Helps the Robinson's of the world to have a Doug Baldwin playing on the other side of the field, as well. We all know Tyreek is a true weapon, but he isn't a 90-100 catch guy just yet.

Plus, I really don't feel like WR is a priority on this team considering the holes we have elsewhere. I'm a Marcus Kemp fan and would love to see what he could do as our 3rd or 4th WR.

I don’t want to spend on a Sammy Watkins or Allen Robinson. It would be like too many cooks in the kitchen. We’ve got an amazing 3 headed monster attack in Hill, Kelce and Hunt that hurt defenses badly with Alex ****ing Smith. Mahomes is just going to magnify that.

Just add a complimentary weapon through the draft or FA without spending much and utilize your money on LG and defense.

We saw Mahomes make Albert Wilson look like Julian Edelman. He’s gonna make a #2 and #3 receiver look way better than they are.

I wonder if there’s any chance that we after Norwell still. It’d be a surprising but great signing.

You mean like the Steelers let Sanders hit the market?

Revisionist history at it’s finest.

Also, NOBODY is saying he’s in that category. He’s just a cheaper option.

This place cracks me up.

I've been here for 12 years now, and for every one of those years, people here have been pissed that we don't have enough weapons at WR - that our WR1 would be a good WR2/3, that we have no depth at the position, etc.

Now, we have a legit WR1 but nothing but question marks on the other side - with a (basically) rookie QB and plenty of cap space - and the ability to add a legit weapon...and people are saying we're fine?

Weren't we ranked like 27th in red zone scoring?

Mahomes has played one game against a Denver team who had mailed it in. I love the guy, and can't wait to see how his career plays out - but expecting him to turn slapdicks like Albert Wilson into studs because of one game is ridiculous.

There's no reason why we can't use FA and the draft to fill holes. Hell, NOW is exactly the time to do it, while we have 15 on a rookie deal.

Would say zero. They aren't paying LT cash for a Guard.

This changed recently.

Not long ago, Watkins was pegged around $9 million, and Robinson was between $11-12 million. Richardson’s number has held pretty steady between $6-7 million.

I wonder what they factor in for these substantial changes to Watkins’ and Robinson’s numbers?

So my dream back end was sealed up by the Rams?

Sounds like a KC offseason...

Pittsburgh had just drafted Wheaton who they thought could replace Sanders, Seattle has NOTHING behind Baldwin.

I don't understand the logic of wanting to spend $7M per on a guy that isn't guaranteed to be any better option than what's on the roster currently. Spend on an elite player, or don't bother.

Exactly.

The playoff game should be proof enough of why another WR threat is needed. As exciting as Hill is as a playmaker, teams will begin to defend him better. He is no secret anymore and not a high volume player with regards to touches. When Kelce went down in the Wildcard, Hill was contained.

Probably right. Someone is though, probably with loads of cap space.

The Chiefs will sign a couple mediocre players and the usual gang will be in here to explain why they don't suck, Veach is actually a super genius and John Dorsey is a horse ****er.

That will be this week on CP.

Tyler Lockett > Markus Wheaton

Try again.

Also, how do you know that they don’t plan on drafting one also?

I would say Smith was contained when Kelce went down. Videos show open players.

Agreed if all three (Hunt, Hill, Kelce) can stay healthy for 16+ games. You lose one of the three though, and the KC offense goes from fairly explosive to fairly ordinary. Hopefully Mahomes, in time (yes it is going to take time) can take the Reid offense to a new level.

I’ve said it before. Look what Pederson did for his young 2nd year stud QB. Did he stand pat with Agholor and Green-Beckham and hope that Wentz could take them to the next level??? **** no! He went out added Alshon and Torrey Smith. There is no reason why the #2 WR spot shouldn’t be an area of focus for KC and Mahomes this offseason.

Wheaton was a superior prospect to Lockett coming out of college.

You know NOW that Lockett turned out better, but at the TIME, Pittsburgh thought Wheaton could replace Sanders.

This.

I like Chris Connelly, but the more time goes by the more I think he's a combine warrior (even though he looked to be on pace for a solid season last year before that freak Achilles injury). I'm certainly not against a FA WR coming in here, I just think we should keep focusing on remaking the defense before we go chasing wide receivers.

Veach has said he's going to be aggressive.

I certainly hope that "aggressive" doesn't mean settling for the 4th/5th best option that really doesn't give us much over what's on the roster.

This is just flat out false and subjective. They were both 3rd round picks.

We need to sign or draft a WR regardless of where one stands on the matter.

And whoever that player is, they need to be capable of starting as we are losing Wilson.

I could be wrong, but I thought I read that if the Chiefs cut Hali and Bailey as expected, they'll have between $30-35M in cap space, plus their draft picks.


No reason why they can't use both to improve both sides of the ball.

Speaking of subjective, aren't you the guy saying Richardson is Emmanuel Sanders?

I didn’t say he is Emmanuel Sanders.

I was simply saying he reminds me of him. Your initial argument as to why he’s not is just bad because you could’ve said the same exact thing about Sanders, hence my comparison.

Agreed. Maybe I'm focusing too much on what the defense needs and/or giving Kemp and Dieter too much credit (possibly Mahomes, as well). I absolutely would not be upset if they did bring in a Watkins or Robinson. Hopefully they will be able to fill as many holes as they can if your scenario happens.

This.

So, should we be targeting the elite option who has started 40 games in 3 seasons, the gamebreaker who has started 51 games in 4 seasons, or the lesser option who has started 13 games in the last 3 years?

PS: The two elite options are a year younger than the lesser option.

They didn’t have jack shit for Wentz in 2016.

I wouldn’t be pissed about spending $5-6 million on a receiver like Paul Richardson or Albert Wilson. That’s what the Eagles did bringing in Torrey Smith. I really don’t want to spend twice that much or more on a receiver like Watkins or Robinson.

Chiefs don’t need more star power on offense. They need it on defense.

Torrey Smith
Albert Wilson
Paul Richardson

One of these things is not like the others.

AND they went out and got Alshon.

Yea, Torrey Smith was clearly on the decline while the other 2 guys aren’t.

The Chiefs lost 4 games (of 7 total) where the defense gave up an average of 17.25 points.

But sure, the offense is fine and we need all that star power on defense.

They have the money and draft capital to do both.