It must've been Professor Plum in the attic with a wrench .

FYP

Sounds like he won't be charged, or so they think.

Assuming that's the outcome he's been caught twice in the presence of weed in the past yr & not charged.

You do the math.

PS,

What I implied is IMO most likely but not necessarily absolutely. I was in the presence of friends smoking weed quite a bit in high school at parties & such & have never smoked it in my life. With the help of some bad luck I could have been in a similar situation more than once. A mere anecdote, for all I know he could be toking up more than Willie Nelson.

SEC Network’s cost will top that of other college nets

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J...9cV14.facebook

Distributors in SEC country can expect to pay a rate of $1.30 to carry the soon-to-be-launched SEC Network, according to several sources with knowledge of the rate card.

That fee, paid on a monthly per-subscriber basis, is what cable and satellite companies within the SEC’s 11-state footprint would pay to ESPN, the owner of the SEC Network. Outside of SEC territory, the channel’s license fee drops to 25 cents.

Cable operators are certain to blanche at the network’s price tag, which is more expensive than other college conference channels like Big Ten Network and Pac-12 Networks.

But ESPN could have leverage as it negotiates with cable operators, as it appears to be on the cusp of landing a deal with one of the industry’s biggest distributors. Sources said that the country’s third-largest distributor, Dish Network, has agreed to carry the channel from its August launch. The deal has not been completed and is part of a bigger overall deal that it is negotiating with ESPN. Dish’s ESPN deal expired at the end of September, but the two worked out an extension, and they are still negotiating terms. Sources say SEC Network carriage is not a sticking point in these talks.

Dish Network’s national reach and roughly 14 million subscribers would be a significant deal for the new network. AT&T U-verse, with 4.5 million subscribers, previously said that it would carry the channel. It’s unusual for channels to have distribution deals so far in front of a channel’s launch. Typically, distributors and networks wait until just before or after a launch to agree on carriage terms.

Comcast and Time Warner Cable are the biggest cable operators in the SEC’s footprint, and ESPN is using its schedule to apply pressure against them. The SEC Network’s first football game Aug. 28 will be between two schools based in Time Warner Cable markets: South Carolina and Texas A&M. The second game of its Aug. 28 doubleheader will feature Vanderbilt, which is in a Comcast market, against Temple, in Comcast’s hometown of Philadelphia.

ESPN President John Skipper has said in the past that the network expects the SEC channel to reach distribution on par with ESPNU, which is in nearly 75 million homes.

An in-market rate of $1.30 makes the SEC Network significantly more expensive than the Big Ten Network. BTN launched in 2007 and currently charges up to $1 in its 11-state footprint from New Jersey to Nebraska. Sub fees on average from both inside and outside the footprint average 37 cents, according to researcher SNL Kagan.

ESPN executives have expressed confidence that the SEC Network will get carriage, especially in SEC states, because of the conference’s rabid fan base across sports. It was ESPN’s top-rated football conference in 2012. SEC games account for nine of the 10 most-viewed regular-season college baseball games in ESPNU history, and it holds nine of 10 of the most-viewed college softball games on ESPNU.

David Preschlack, executive vice president of affiliate sales and marketing for Disney and ESPN Networks Group, is leading the talks for ESPN. Justin Connolly, ESPN senior vice president for programming, is leading the creation of the network.

I'm always fascinated MU fans still believe there's still going to be this earthquake explosion of revenues that'll make them (and the SEC) rich ad everyone else a pauper. As if the other major conferences would ever allow such a scenario to occur, or go along with it when they could simply band together and freeze out the SEC, leaving them awful non-con games and relegating them to a true Southern quadrant attraction. NASCAR already proved you can't subsist on that regional support alone. Realistically it's extremely doubtful TV will ever pay for one league to have a size able revenue gap.

It's fascinating when you invent a narrative, attribute it to someone else, and proceed to disagree with the statements of your own creation?

R.I.P. Jefferson Pilot Sports. How will kids these days know about the burgers at Huddle House, with a side of Texas Pete? :skip: :drool:

Some SEC Network numbers to think about: (Check Outkick the Coverage for more if you're interested).

There are 30 million cable/satellite/etc subscribers in the SEC footprint. Just on subscription fees alone, you're looking at revenue of $468,000,000/year. And that's before you factor in subscriptions from out-of-footprint folks, or advertising dollars. They're probably looking at $600 million in revenue in year 1, conservatively. If they get onto every set in their footprint (and they likely will), that is.

It's hard to say how that will be split between the networks and the league, but it is going to be substantial money to each school, split evenly. Let's say just a quarter of the revenue goes to the league (which is probably low).

That's still an additional $10+ million/year for each team in TV revenue.

And it will only bring in more cash as time goes on.

This may be the stupidest theory you've ever posited on this board...and I don't say that lightly. The mere suggestion that the other conferences would be capable of banding together against the SEC is hilarious...to say nothing of the fact that they wouldn't even want to.

In case you haven't noticed, every conference that has its act together either has, or is currently building, a conference network. The rest of the conferences are either too dysfunctional, too weak, or both to organize themselves let alone form some sort of coalition.

I'm referring to the tards in the SEC fan base (is there another kind?) who have te delusion they'd make something like 60m while every other major competitor convulses like a fish dying on the beachhead. And it's a stupid concept because yes, the SEC also needs the other major conferences for competitive needs. And those conferences wouldn't operate in a tilted environment. Now if you aren't one of those tards dreaming up such ideas, I'll exempt you.

Care to offer up a quote as an example?



Just kidding...I know you make everything up.

Read the comments on Travis article, dork.

I did. Show me which ones resemble your post. There are only 28 comments. It should be pretty easy to cut and paste them all.

Huddle house is disgusting

Well, Texas Pete isn't great hot sauce, the Daves were terrible commentators and Mississippi State was never very good. That's JP in a nutshell. I do kind of miss it, though.

But Texas expects everyone in the Big 12 to operate in a "tilted environment"....and the Big 12 does.....and no fish appear to be dying there...although they did come very, very close.

$1.30 per?

lol, good luck with that

No brah....Travis was talking $3/per at the end of his column:


At $3 a month -- a number that's also not unrealistic -- the SEC Network would go over a billion dollars in revenue just from the 11 state footprint.



He's clinically insane. I would bet even money that he is actually masquerading as Saul Good on this board.

Maybe he should do some research.

http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/201...cable2-624.png

No quotes yet? Weird...

You've accidentally stumbled onto a very good point, and something I've asked already. Why do these perennial bottom feeders (think: Vandy, Wake, the Miss Schools, Iowa State, Wash State etc etc) continue to serve as the tomato cans to the big fish in their conferences? Why do Vandy fans enjoy getting pulverized decade after decade, only to get rewarded with a welfare check at the end?



It's a damn good question. I don't have any clue why they continue to tolerate it, lack of self esteem? I do know that Texas, Ohio State, USC, Michigan et al certainly would never tolerate the SEC making way more money. They have self-respect.

Where are those quotes?

Miss stomped Texas this year in Austin, and Vandy has been anything but a doormat....

Do you really think he will post any? LMAO

Yes, Ole Miss and Vandy have long proud athletic histories. You are probably right.

Like the long, proud, history of KU football, right?

I was thinking the long storied history of Mizzou.

Quotes, please...

That is all you ever think about, so no surprise there.

It's all anyone thinks about, really.

Rather than buy into the idea of a conference network, they decided to go rogue. In so doing, they drove four original members out of the conference with the LHN being the final straw. They also put three games on a channel that next to nobody has...even in Texas, effectively blacking out a quarter of their games.

Since then, aTm has captured the casual fans in Texas with JFF winning the Heisman. Nebraska fans watched their team win their division in the B1G. The 16,000,000 eyeballs in Missouri couldn't care less about a mediocre Texas team when their team is tearing it up in the SEC.

Meanwhile, the Horns kicked off the season with blowout losses to BYU and Ole Miss. (Word to the wise: when you're trying to convince the country that your conference is a comparable product to the SEC, don't have your flagship program get blown out...at home, no less...to a perennial SEC doormat...and then let that flagship team turn around and go 7-1 in conference...with a backup QB...and after replacing their DC midseason with a guy who hadn't coached anything in years.) Buy the latest women's fashion, kids and men's nfl jerseys online. Choose from over 10000 designer styles including t shirts,hoodies,jackets, jeans & track suits. sportsytb.net

LMAO

They should be thinking about quotes...or admitting that they are liars.

LOL at Nebraska fans enjoying their move. Good one.

I don't know where you get 16M eyeballs in Missouri unless there are some serious deformities I don't know of. I wouldn't call a 9-8 SEC record "tearing it up" especially when you're 2-8 vs teams that ended ranked. Now that it's basketball season most people in Missouri turn their eyes to their favorite basketball team anyway, KU.

Go ahead and drop a quote on us before critiquing someone else's post, you lying ****.

Almost everyone has two eyes. It appears he was thinking of Missouri's population being 8 million people. I don't think you get to 8,000,000 unless you include the Kansas and Illinois metro areas of KC and St. Louis, and even then that's more like 7.5 million.

But keep trying to explain away how 12-2 and a top 5 finish isn't "tearing it up."

When you're done playing intellectual twister, make sure you stretch out really well. Would hate for you to get stuck in one of those extreme positions you twist into.

The best team in the Big 12 pummeled the best team in the SEC.

Better luck next year beating us.

He won't of course, but he will be back tomorrow with a new angle and promptly get his shit pushed in again as always.

I think Mizzou had the best season in their history.

All it took was not playing Alabama, LSU and losing to South Carolina, Auburn...

I guess I missed the part where this year's Big 12 champion played this year's SEC champion.

When was that game? Sounds like something I would like to watch.

What's that, you say? The best team in the Big 12 was dominated by the AAC champ? The best team in the SEC played for the national title?

You're wrong.

I would have rather played Alabama in the SEC title game. They weren't as good as Auburn.

LSU? Unless we're playing a night game at their place, I like Missouri's chances against that team.

South Carolina? Top ten finisher, really good team that Missouri should have beaten.

Auburn? Great team that was better than Mizzou and within 2-3 plays of winning the national title. No shame in losing that one.

Strange, it's like Bitch and Bambi just think that Mizzou will become the laughing stock they want them to be by just sheer force of will on their parts. What a miserable existence for those two.

South Carolina finished top 5, actually.

If the SEC deniers are to be believed, finishing with teams ranked 2, 4, 5, 7, 14, 18, and 24 is a down year. The Big 12 was strong, though, with teams finishing ranked 6, 13, and 17.

You know how during a movie or TV show when the main character gets into trouble you remind yourself that there is no real danger because they're not going to kill off the central character? That it's always going to work out?

This thread is like that where you just know that, inevitably, Bambi and Prison will always be made out to be fools before the next day's episode.

There are 6M people in MO. You can't get to 16M eyeballs. This isn't rocket science Duncan. For someone who has a good handle on Sabermetrics this calc should not confuse you.


And like I say, there is a large chunk of MO residents (cough cough) that don't like Mizzou and don't watch their football games anyway. As to "tearing it up" ill stand on the facts. 9 wins vs teams finishing 22-50. MU tears up crappy teams yes.

Keep flailing. It's entertaining.

Yup 7 ranked teams out of 14 is a "down year". But remember, the SEC is overrated.

They all know it, which is why they all avoid it like the plague. One tool still brags about beating 4-8 Florida FFS

What if we told you guys that we felt really bad about playing the schedule they assigned us. Would that help?

Also, Mizzou only played five teams that finished the season ranked while Oklahoma played four teams that finished the season ranked...so Mizzou had a soft schedule.

It's a shame the entire country was so deceived that they put us at #5 in the final rankings.

But Oklahoma was the best team in the Big XII this year (I read that here). How dare you speak ill of such greatness.

Surely there's a Big XII team ranked higher since the Big XII is a superior football conference. No?

As bad as the 2012 season was, we still went down to UCF and won. A year later, that team put half a hundy on the Big 12 champs. We play them again next year, but our schedule doesn't include the Patriots, Broncos, or Seahawks...so it isn't tough enough for the lying Bitch.

Kind of interesting....MU beat OK State who pretty much clobbered Baylor....the same Baylor team that clobbered Oklahoma.....and the same Baylor team that lost to UCF.

But Oklahoma still was the best in the Big 12 who beat the "best" in the SEC? If I remember my rankings correctly, Alabama was actually the 4th best team in the SEC this year.

Like you....I liked our chances against Bama and LSU this year.

How in the **** does a team that can't beat a team from the AAC score 73, 71, 59, 41, 63, and 41 points against teams from the Big 12?

This is why we mock MU fans. They honestly believe they were better than Bama. The level of delusion has always been mind boggling over there.

The SEC had 7 ranked teams. The Big 12 didn't even have that many bowl-eligible teams.

Must be a conspiracy against the Big XII...I'm sure of it since they are so superior, correct?

10 teams from the SEC received votes in the final AP poll. 'twas a down year.

Two things -

1) Who in the hell said that Mizzou was better than Alabama?

2) Do you hold the same vitriol for the BCS for ranking us higher than Alabama in their final rankings?

In the coaches poll, the Big 12 had 3 ranked teams. 3 of the four teams that dumped the Big 12 were ranked.

It makes you wonder why the team from the SEC in the #5 bowl slot could play the #3 team in the Big 12 and beat them by double digits, whilst playing a pretty awful game. (Their starting QB being rated 26.1 on the night, for example)

And being mocked by a KU fan over football is actually therapeutic, so keep it up, Bitch.

The AP and the coaches said it pretty clearly.

It's PB stretching things to make it appear the way he wants them to. He's referring to the comments both Duncan and I made about liking our chances against Bama this year.

And he doesn't recognize the BCS rankings because they aren't solely published by Sagarin.

Yeah...I forgot about that.

I should have been more specific. Which Mizzou fans said as much?

The SEC pretty much always has to play up a few levels on bowl games. Pitting our 1s through 7s against 1s through 7s from other conferences isn't fair to the other conferences.

See what I mean?

Sagarin's ELO (used for the BCS poll) has us well ahead of Alabama, but his system is pretty much reeruned, so that isn't much of an endorsement.

But what does Sagarin's Prison Bitch scale say? That is the true determining factor of greatness! LMAO

His scale says whatever the **** he pleases. That's the great thing about being a liar. He doesn't have to base his statements on actual events. It's why he prefers to cite statistics as proof of what would happen if hypothetical events were to occur, but he refuses to cite anything regarding actual, verifiable events.

When you can't win actual events, you're left to talking shit about theoretical ones...and the lying bitch is undefeated in games that haven't actually taken place.

Damn, bitch is getting his shit pushed in today.

It would at least show some sense of self awareness, which is why it'll never happen. More fun to believe beating tomato cans actually proves anything. Sad.

Yes. As I said, he was mistaken on the number of people in the state of Missouri. Only about 12 million eyeballs in the state. If you expand to include the metro areas, you still only get to 15 million or so. It's the only leg you can stand on here.

Your "Facts" are wrong. You should probably check them. I know you don't like to do that, so I'd do it for you...

How in the world are you getting to 9 wins against teams that finished 22-50? Are you using George Bush math to get there? I mean, 72 games... not even full seasons for 9 teams playing 12 games.

Murray State: 6-6
Toledo: 7-5
Indiana: 5-7
Arkansas State: 8-5

That's 26 wins just against the non-conference schedule.

Vanderbilt: 9-4
Georgia: 8-5
Florida: 4-8
Tennessee: 5-7
Kentucky: 2-10
Ole Miss: 8-5
Texas A&M: 9-4
Oklahoma State: 10-3

Even if you look at just the wins against the 5 worst teams Missouri played alone, you still get to 22 wins (6+5+5+4+2). There is no way to get to 9 teams with only 22 wins.

9-8 vs Sec teams Duncan. Now, go look up what those 9 teams did their two years in league play. Start with Kentucky's 0-16 donut and work your way through.

The total is actually 50.

Kentucky 0-16
Georgia 12-4
A & M 10-6
Tenn 3-13
Vandy 9-7
Florida 10-6
Ole Miss 6-10

Facts are certainly not your strong suit.

Let me get this straight...in order to say Mizzou isn't that great this season, you're...

Counting only games against SEC teams...
Using their record only against SEC teams...
Going back to previous seasons...
Butchering your own, cherry-picked numbers...

I don't think Sagarin would want you in his corner.

He's not counting their records in the years we lost to them. Wins for SEC teams only count if they are against opponents who finish the season undefeated.