:cuss:

That's what I want my first visit to Arrowhead to be like. Awesome, and loud.

how about a win? Or, does that not matter anymore... :p

A win is closely tied with the stadium being loud. LMAO

I'm not going to root for Alex Smith to suck or get hurt. I want the Chiefs to win.

But if Smith does get hurt, Bray has a chance to play soon I think, because Daniel blows.

Hate on me doubters!

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I like this post. I just assume stick with Alex Smith until Bray has his bearings right between his ears and can shine in the pros. I don't want Alex Smith getting hurt and Chase Daniels gets the nod and we are stuck watching him half a season, knowing we have a better prospect behind him in the wing.

The sooner I see a non retread quarterback play and is our QBotf the happier I'l be.

:facepalm: /Dane McCloud

:rolleyes:

He had a good run in preseason. But it's probably time to cut this guy so we can sign Tebow.

TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW.

I can live with it. I waited this long.

Well, it's not going to happen anytime soon so I guess you will be sad for a while.

Uh, Bowe said the offense was going to be like bombs over Baghdad.

I get the excitement for Bray. Im there, but keep your anger focused on Daniel. For Bray to be successful he needs Alex Smith this year. He needs his mentoring, and for him to stay healthy.

Bray needs to fix some things. He has to be broken down and rebuilt. So he becomes more than an arm, and a complete qb. Andy Doug, Nagy, Childress, Ault, Alex Smith can all get him there.

Development.

For that aspect yes going be sad for a while but in the meantime I'm also going to enjoy what I can out of what should be a kick ass attack defense and we still have JC & D Bowe show to watch. So I'm not going sit around and mope about if I see the team start to come alive.


The quarterback is the number one issue I have with the team for over two decades so I'm sure I can deal with it a little longer. Doesn't mean I have to like it, with this team am use to disapointment so I just have to deal with it.

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Berry and Flowers are pimping this guy awfully hard :hmmm:

They got to see him all summer long, and if those two guys are high on him... :rockon:

NO. He is an UDFA. HE SUCKS.

/Rain Clouds

Best young QB option in the division.

and cue KNOWMO....

It gets old owning him at times

Also special was the Chiefs offense, led by rookie QB Tyler Bray's three TD strikes. Bray described the team's win in three words.

"It was amazing," Bray said. "Just to go out there and have great success, except for the one pick I threw, we played great."


As for the play of Tyler Bray, Hammond offered a quick evaluation.

"He was on the money,” Hammond said. "He was locked in and kept us together."

He pans out and this division is our bitch in the future.

Why bitch?

You will have to find the quotes but Berry and Flowers were very complimentary. Flowers said something to the effect of not being scared to make plays, etc....Berry has been talking him up all along...What are you, a Cassell fan?

Don't have any anger over Smith, but he doesn't have the "wow" factor, but he is a good QB. Bray can be "great"

Bray > Smith Huard Cassel Thigpen Croyle Stanzi Bono Orton Daniel Palko

Bray> Grbac, Deberg, Krieg, Vlasic, Collins, Blundin

Exactly.....you don't need to wait 3 ****in years to see what this dude brings to the table.....Big time QB from a big time conference with "special" talent. Can't wait to see him grow and play some more.

I can't find that gif of cassel trying to put on a hat mixed with bray rolling in hat swag for the life of me. Can someone hook a homer up? I think gochiefs made it...

Yep. But ifs and buts were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas.

@IanKenyonNFL: Yeah, I'm a big fan of Bray. Thought he was the best QB in the class.

Yeah, they'll ALL start saying that shit, and they, especially Kiper, can go **** themselves with a flaming meat-grinder.

I hope he works out but, I doubt he will. He wasn't very good in college.

It really wasn't him in college. Btw. Tom Brady wasn't very good in college either.

He had a ton of talent at WR and only won one SEC game. He choked several times. Again, I hope he works out but, he was never good as a starter. He's hasn't shown he can win.

Other than his record what do you actually know about Tennessee?

A ton. I live down here in watch them a lot.

He had an all SEC LT in Thomas and three stud WRs (Patterson, Rogers, and Hunter). I saw him get yanked from the Vanderbilt game for sucking last year. He had Georgia on their heels year before last and choked. There is a pattern there. I worry that he played great as a third teamer because he had absolutely no pressure to succeed. He's a different player when he's the starter imo. Hopefully, he can grow up but, "clutch" isn't something that you can teach imo. I find it king of funny that some are so excited about him. He will probably fail.

Brady was 20-5 as a starter at Michigan, he just wasn't a sexy QB physically like Bray is now. One of the reasons I respect Brady so much is he WORKED his ass off to become the HOFer he is now. Not that others don't but he really wasn't good enough. Dude is as blue collar as it gets for the pretty golden boy he's perceived as now. Bray was 13-11 overall and 5-7 last year (5-9 against the SEC for his career). Not all his fault though I agree. I have high hopes for him.

Brady was actually quite good at Michigan. He just had the misfortune of playing for Lloyd Carr. Brian Griese was the incumbent his first two years, and then he had to fight like hell to keep Drew Henson off the field (they badly wanted Henson to start). And at the end of the day they just didn't pass the ball all that much so his numbers weren't as eye-popping as other guys. But he was in no way bad. He posted 60+% completion numbers his two seasons starting, had a 20/6 TD/INT ratio as a senior and ended his career with a phenomenal performance against bama in the Orange bowl (350+ yards, 4 TD). They ended top 20 both years he started, with bowl wins. At the end of the day, the guy was just a winner.

my point was that the coaching was non existent. Since you watched a lot of him in college, did you realize how different he had looked in college, and then in the pros?

I too watched a lot of him. I have liked him since he was being recruited.

He has a lot to clean up....but his potential, and skill set, is awesome.

like you fail at life?


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The SEC defenses he went against in college were better than the 3rd string defenses he faced in preseason imo. He can throw the ball for sure. We'll see what he does in a year or two.

As for the coaching, he didn't want to be coached at UT. He was an immature dumbass. However, he does seem to have grown up a little.

It would be cool if he turns into something. It just seems very unlikely to me.

If he gets his shit together he'll be Marino 2.0

He was very immature, but had maybe the biggest shit show of coaches ever with Dooley and Co. He also did not have Da'rick Rodgers last year, he was suspended and transferred.

Of course its unlikely that he turns into anything special, he was an undrafted FA. The fact remains that he has more potential that this team has seen in a long time and seems to have matured some.

Also, no college defense is better than any NFL defense ever.

He didn't want to be coached. That part is probably true. HIS COACHING WAS INEPT as well.

I would love me some Marino on this team. It would close the horrible Blackledge Circle of Hell quite nicely.

His personality is very similar. Same Skill set. Not quite the quick release, but he has more mobility.

:whackit:JIMPJIMPJIMP

All the talk about mechanics, Marino's were awful.

If you can sling it, you can sling it.

I do agree that he needs to polish up that area of his delivery, that'll help his release point and accuracy to be more consistent.

Aside from that, I can honestly say this kid is the most Marino like QB since Dan considering his situation.

You guys are setting the pedestal for Bray way too high.

The guy made some nice throws in preseason (and while I was there at camp, he looked like a talented first round pick) but thus far in preseason he has fumbled about half the times he was hit and defenders dropped a few of his throws.

He also seems to force the ball downfield and maybe trusts his god given gifts too much and therefore overlooks the "free money".

The guy is gonna take time and he will make some mistakes that will need forgiven along the way to have a chance.

Not every day that an UDFA "looks like a talented first round pick".

After going undrafted, Chiefs quarterback Tyler Bray trying to prove all 32 teams in NFL wrong


Tyler Bray knows that he's probably not going to get a whole lot of snaps in a game the rest of the year. It comes with the territory of being the third-string quarterback.

That's why he made the most of the ones he got Thursday night.
The rookie out of Tennessee threw for 169 yards and three touchdowns in leading the Chiefs to a 30-8 victory over the Green Bay Packers in their preseason finale. And while he was mostly going against fellow third-teamers, the performance was enough to leave Kansas City buzzing.

"He has a live arm, man. He's not scared to go make big plays," Chiefs cornerback Brandon Flowers said. "He just has the eye of a tiger. The game's not too big for him."
Who would have thought anybody would be dishing out such praise four months ago?

Bray was considered a second- or third-round pick by folks who make their living by predicting such things. That's one of the reasons he left school a year early. But over three frustrating days — seven agonizing rounds — Bray was passed over by every team in the NFL.
Not one of the 32 was willing to spend a draft pick on him.

It was embarrassing. Humbling. Front-office officials privately pointed to a slew of off-the-field issues at Tennessee that called Bray's maturity into question. He may have had a big right arm, they whispered, but did he have the mental makeup to make it as a professional?
So far, the answer has been a resounding yes.

Bray routinely stuck around after practice throughout training camp to squeeze in extra work with the Chiefs' wide receivers. He asked so many questions of starters Alex Smith and backup Chase Daniel that they were left exhausted. He's been trying to absorb everything that Chiefs coach Andy Reid and offensive coordinator Doug Pederson can pass along as they prepare for the season.

"Does he have room to grow? Absolutely. That's what's exciting about the whole thing," Reid said Friday. "We'll see how he does as time goes on here. He handled what we threw at him last night. He executed well and had a little knack for throwing the football."
That much was never in question.

Bray was a high-profile recruit when he committed to Tennessee — one of his guides on his visit in high school was Chiefs safety Eric Berry. He threw for more than 1,800 yards as a freshman, put up comparable numbers as a sophomore, and then threw for 3,612 and 34 touchdowns his junior year.
With a weak draft class at quarterback, Bray thought that he'd be picked in the first couple of rounds. He never realized how much value the NFL places on character these days.

The Chiefs knew that his raw ability was worth taking a chance on, though, so they called him almost immediately after the draft. They weren't alone. But the Chiefs won the bidding for the rookie free agent, and Bray reported to the Chiefs this past spring with a positive attitude.

He quickly moved up the depth chart past Ricky Stanzi, who has since been cut, and is barking on the heels of Daniel, who struggled most of the preseason. And while it'll be hard for Bray take over the No. 2 job given his experience, nothing seems impossible right now.

"I already knew how he can throw. I knew how he can compete. I knew he could make plays. I just wanted to see him showcase it out here," Berry said. "I've been talking about him since he got here. I always thought he was a good pickup."
In a sign of how much he's matured, Bray downplayed his stellar outing against Green Bay.

He reminded a gaggle of reporters who gathered around him in the Chiefs locker room that he was going against third- and fourth-teamers, and that he hasn't proven anything yet in the NFL.
"I'm not going out there like Alex playing the 1s, or Chase playing the 2s," he said. "It was good to get some reps because I'm probably not going to get many down the road here."

NOTES: Reid confirmed that OG Ricky Henry will require surgery after rupturing his bicep against the Packers. ... Reid and Packers GM John Dorsey planned to meet Friday before deciding on the final roster. The Chiefs must reach the 53-man limit by Saturday afternoon. ... LB Nico Johnson continues to recover from a high ankle sprain. Reid wouldn't say whether he'll be out for the season opener Sept. 8 at Jacksonville.

Thanks for posting for the smart ass who said "link?" when I mentioned the praise he got from Flowers and Berrry....Eye of the tiger, not scared, live arm.....Like I said, they are just making him pay dues but he is the type of QB that will lead us somewhere......I know it when I see it..

I just asked for a link, dumb ass. I wasn't being a smart ass about it at all. Maybe I just wanted to read the article. :thumb:

I am not sure if it was you but since you came at me, **** you....:thumb:

A third string NFL preseason defense that has been thrown together is not as good as the top tier SEC defenses imo.

Maybe a third string D vs a top tier college defense like Alabama. But any starting defense in the NFL would easily show up any college D.

Yep, easily. :thumb:

Bray has been the most impressive rookie QB of the preseason next to EJ.

Here's some food for thought... Year before last McElroy was the best rookie QB of the preseason. He got cut on Saturday. He was 36 for 59 and threw for 359 yards and 2 TDs. His QB rating was an 87.8. He was better than Newton, Dalton and Kaepenick.

Neat.


Bray didn't get cut.


Your story sucks shit.

:LOL:

He might in three years like McElroy. That's the point. Playing great against 3rd stringers doesn't mean shit. You are delusional.

And you are reeruned.

how many fumbles did bray have?
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These primates need to stop with the useless inaccurate drivel. Tennessee has the absolute most ill informed player wrecking fanbase ever.
Tyler was recruited by Lane Kiffin. Kiffin bailed from Tennessee and tried to take Tyler with him which would've violated NCAA rules.
Dooley becomes HC and the players learn of his ineptitude early on.
Tyler's true freshman year, 4 of 5 on O line were true freshmen. Matt Simms was QB and was fumbling a lot bcuz he held the ball too long for the young O line and got clobbered. Tyler took over at halftime against a tough South Carolina team and led a comeback. They ultimately lost when the defense folded. The starting job was his. What little coaching he got was centered around getting the ball out early . Denarious Moore was no where on the draft board until he and Tyler hooked up.
@ the Music City Bowl in Nashville where Bray completed 27-45 passes for 312 yards, 4 touchdowns and 3 interceptions in a 27-30 2 OT loss against the North Carolina Tar Heels. He finished the season 125-of-224 for 1,849 passing yards and 18 touchdowns, all UT freshman records while also throwing 10 interceptions. Among 2010 freshman Division I quarterbacks, he ranked third in QB rating (142.73), tied for fourth in TDs, sixth in passing yards per game (205.4) and 10th in total yards . He played with emotion during the bowl game and was in tears after. He received grief for being emotional at 18 years of age.
Tyler's true sophmore season: Week 5 brought the Georgia Bulldogs to Neyland Stadium. Bray broke his thumb late in the game and would not return until the Vanderbilt game several weeks later. The Vols lost 20-12 as Bray threw for 251 yards with 0 touchdowns and 0 interceptions, with Matt Simms assuming quarterback duties late in the game. Because of his injury Bray would not play in the next 5 games (against LSU, Alabama, South Carolina, Middle Tennessee, and Arkansas). The Volunteers went 1-4 during Bray's absence. Tyler Bray came back during the Vanderbilt week and led the Vols to an upset win against the Commodores. Bray finished the day 16-33 for 189 yards and 2 touchdowns with 2 interceptions. The Vols won 27-21 in OT. In the final game of the season, the Vols lost to the Kentucky Wildcats 10-7, which was the first loss the Kentucky in 26 years. The Volunteers ended the season 5-7 and were not bowl eligible. Tyler played the Kentucky game with a still injured thumb that couldn't even grip the ball without pain meds. He also had bad strep throat and a fever. The performance wasn't good and he was criticized for not caring and not being emotional.
In ghe off season, he Had 2 brushes with the law. The 19 yr old QB got drunk at home with a friend and they began tossing beer bottles toward a dumpster and hit a parked car. His dad paid for the damage. He also got a wreckless boating charge when he threw a roost with a personal watercraft that splashed water on his friend that had just wiped out. A water cop actually ticketed him. It was thrown out when it went to court. Those 2 heinous incidents along with him stealing a few girlfriends killed his reputation and he would never compare to the great Peyton Manning whose shadow looms large. There's internet created heresay and rumours, but that's the extent of his legal issues.
Tyler's true junior year: The 2012 season would be Bray's only season where he would start all 12 games for the Volunteers. WR Da'Rick Rogers got kicked off the team before the season. Future 1st rnd pick Cordarrell Patterson was explosive when he had the ball, however he usually ran whatever route he wanted and Bray had to guess where he was going. TD's were taken off the board twice bcuz Cordarrell chose to celebrate before the endzone. He's extremely raw and a horrid route runner, but exciting when he has the ball. Justin Hunter dropped many perfect balls at key times his senior year. He was coming back from knee injury and it really messed with his head especially early. Saying Bray had 3 great WR's is wrong. Bray is a huge reason that they got drafted where they did. On the year Bray went 268 of 451 for 3612 yards with 34 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.Bray recorded a Tennessee record 530 passing yards against Troy, breaking Peyton Manning's record of 523 versus Kentucky in 1997. His 3,619 passing yards rank as 11th in a single-season in SEC history. With 34 touchdown passes, he posted the seventh-most touchdown passes in a season in SEC history.
He was blamed for the losses by the ignorant Vol fans and they somehow overlooked that the defense allowed 40 pts a game in league play. The defense allowed 48 against Troy.
Tyler's biggest handicap is that he had awful coaching in college and he's an awful interview which gives people the false impression that he's stupid or uncaring.
Reality is that he's perhaps overly aggressive. Hates losing. Super strong arm. Overly confident in his arm. Super quick decisions with an equally quick release.

Rico is that you?
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holy long post with no spacing batman

1 iirc.


Smith doesn't throw it down field enough, but bray does it too much

I expect to see more long passes this year than ever from Alex Smith.

Just a feeling. Not saying they are going to be ACCURATE or anything. I just expect to see more shots taken.

I hope you're right because, they are going to have to keep defenses honest so Charles can do his thing

Wait. What?

Abridged version: Bray is better than people give him credit for.

THANK YOU cause that shit was WAY to long to read :thumb:

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So we still have a chance at making him a game manager?

Yeah we need A super solid deep game like last year when cha'les did his thang yo

The Chiefs were 2-14 last year, YO