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DeezNutz 01-02-2013 08:45 PM

Geno love hit its zenith earlier in the year when we were watching him drop beautiful deep ball after beautiful deep ball in the bucket while our QBs were inaccurately checking down.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270989)
Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin

Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close to 9 hours and never made it to Arizona.I Was there and looked like meeting went well

but he left already!
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Ceej 01-02-2013 08:45 PM

Who is Howard Foreskin?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 08:45 PM

Howard Eskin‏@howardeskin

Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close to 9 hours and never made it to Arizona.I Was there and looked like meeting went well

O.city 01-02-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9270976)
95% of the board has Geno's cock lodged in their asshole. That's why.

And that has what to do with you posting in the Tyler Wilson thread?

If you like him as a prospect so much, post in there, that's what it's made for. You always come in the Geno thread and spew shit about Wilson, when there is a thread dedicated to that.

And the Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in 30 years, I'd imagine a large part of the fanbase would be excited at the fact that the top QB prospect coming out in the year their team has the first overall pick and no QB.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-02-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270989)
Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin

Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close to 9 hours and never made it to Arizona.I Was there and looked like meeting went well

Hmmmm...maybe we will have a 2nd meeting tomorrow and shoot for 10 hours.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9270992)
Geno love hit its zenith earlier in the year when we were watching him drop beautiful deep ball after beautiful deep ball in the bucket while our QBs were inaccurately checking down.

That could be some too.

I definitely want our new qb to have that ability
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Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270989)
Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin

Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close to 9 hours and never made it to Arizona.I Was there and looked like meeting went well

:thumb:

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 08:46 PM

:clap:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270995)
Howard Eskin‏@howardeskin

Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close to 9 hours and never made it to Arizona.I Was there and looked like meeting went well

I feel good. Well see. Reid was my pick a few days ago

htismaqe 01-02-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9270970)
Nah they just came up with PAGE AFTER PAGE AFTER PAGE of posts trying to prove he was just as good as RG3. ROFL

Dumbass

There's over a hundred posts from Geno supporters in there that literally say "Geno is not RG3".

You're a ****ing moron as usual.

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270995)
Howard Eskin‏@howardeskin

Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close to 9 hours and never made it to Arizona.I Was there and looked like meeting went well

Eskin's word is gold. He's very dialed in here.

Would love to wake up and have him be the new HC.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9270971)
And Syracuse. And had his stats against TCU inflated because of 2 OT's. He wasn't good in that game either.

Ryan Nassib is 2nd round prospect. He played worse than Geno. Lets not sit here and say weather played no part.

O.city 01-02-2013 08:48 PM

It's weird cause I've seen RunKc get excited about Geno, then turn around and knock him like a man possessed.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 08:48 PM

Smith has had some suspect games. There is no getting around this. However, what I really like about him as a prospect is his mobility/awareness in the pocket and his toughness in the face of the rush.

These qualities in him are elite. Doesn't mean that he's perfect--example: sack and strip in the endzone in the bowl game--but he's still outstanding.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271006)
Eskin's word is gold. He's very dialed in here.

Would love to wake up and have him be the new HC.

I've been in this thread, and following twitter literally all day. I've wasted the whole ****ing day with this shit. And he is the guy that has been spot on with info, first.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9270976)
95% of the board has Geno's cock lodged in their asshole. That's why.

ROFL

You can't post in a Tyler Wilson thread because people like Geno Smith?

Are you functionally reeruned?

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2013 08:49 PM

Ah thats good. I was under the assumption Reid went to Arizona tonight.

ChiefsCountry 01-02-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9271010)
It's weird cause I've seen RunKc get excited about Geno, then turn around and knock him like a man possessed.

Does the same with Wilson and Ostrich bitch as well.

O.city 01-02-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9271011)
Smith has had some suspect games. There is getting around this. However, what I really like about him as a prospect is his mobility/awareness in the pocket and his toughness in the face of the rush.

These qualities in him are elite. Doesn't mean that he's perfect--example: sack and strip in the endzone in the bowl game--but he's still outstanding.

This.


Just because he isn't Luck, doesn't mean he isn't a great prospect.

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9271009)
Ryan Nassib is 2nd round prospect. He played worse than Geno. Lets not sit here and say weather played no part.

It shouldn't be an excuse.

He's going to have shitty weather games and I'm not going to give him a pass in those here either.

O.city 01-02-2013 08:50 PM

So are the Chiefs meeting with Reid again tomorrow?

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271006)
Eskin's word is gold. He's very dialed in here.

Would love to wake up and have him be the new HC.

Me too!! Though im hoping to hear its done soon so I can have a crown and coke in celebration

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9271017)
Does the same with Wilson and Ostrich bitch as well.

I could easily see Reid going with Barkley in the draft. Do you want to see Reid get hired?

Mr_Tomahawk 01-02-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271022)
It shouldn't be an excuse.

He's going to have shitty weather games and I'm not going to give him a pass in those here either.

but but but...

O.city 01-02-2013 08:51 PM

Why would Reid go with Barkley? He likes his QB's somewhat mobile, that ain't Barkley.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 08:51 PM

Mike Jurecki ‏ @ mikejurecki

Tomorrow RT @ howardeskin Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close 2 9 hrs & nevr made it 2 AZ.I Was thr & lk meeting went well

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271022)
It shouldn't be an excuse.

He's going to have shitty weather games and I'm not going to give him a pass in those here either.

I'm big on Geno, but I agree with this post entirely. No passes because of weather. He's going to deal with it in KC. He'll get better though.

dirk digler 01-02-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271006)
Eskin's word is gold. He's very dialed in here.

Would love to wake up and have him be the new HC.

depressing

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9271029)
I could easily see Reid going with Barkley in the draft. Do you want to see Reid get hired?

Barkley will likely drop in the first due to size.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271022)
It shouldn't be an excuse.

He's going to have shitty weather games and I'm not going to give him a pass in those here either.

It's not an excuse, it's legit explanation.

Look, I'm not all in on Geno. I like Tyler Wilson a lot too.

But the polarized nature of this argument is just maddening.

And stupid.

He's either a god on earth or a 4th round pick.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9271035)
Mike Jurecki ‏ @ mikejurecki

Tomorrow RT @ howardeskin Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close 2 9 hrs & nevr made it 2 AZ.I Was thr & lk meeting went well

Why are you posting the piggybackers? :p

Mr_Tomahawk 01-02-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9271035)
Mike Jurecki ‏ @ mikejurecki

Tomorrow RT @ howardeskin Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close 2 9 hrs & nevr made it 2 AZ.I Was thr & lk meeting went well

?

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9271029)
I could easily see Reid going with Barkley in the draft. Do you want to see Reid get hired?

I have to trust his judgement though I have faith Geno will get it together

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9271042)
?

Reid will meet with Cards tomorrow.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9271030)
but but but...

Dude, justifying taking Wilson requires the EXACT same things. None of these guys are perfect.

Why does everything have to be so damn black and white here anymore?

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2013 08:53 PM

What? Who would you prefer we went after?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 08:54 PM

Whoever Reid decides is the franchise guy is just ****ing fine in my book. I don't care if he drafts Nasim at #1. Seriously. I trust the guy to make the right call.

O.city 01-02-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9271030)
but but but...

What about Wilson's games vs Ole Miss? Or Miss State? Or A$M?

Liking a Qb on CP, that isn't another guys favorite is like mortal sin.


I like Geno, I like WIlson, hell I even like Bray.

MeatRock 01-02-2013 08:54 PM

Reid would be a great hire. I hope he leaves AZ w/o a contract. If Barkley is who our next HC selects then get ready for another dink and dunk offense.
No ****ing arm strength.

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2013 08:55 PM

I think he was scheduled to fly tonight and thats why they stopped at 7

NJChiefsFan 01-02-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9270970)
Nah they just came up with PAGE AFTER PAGE AFTER PAGE of posts trying to prove he was just as good as RG3. ROFL

Dumbass

Who exactly has said he is RG3?

I would say that the Geno love is pretty epic. I think you have to realize that part of this is us having a race for the #1 pick during all of this. Knowing change is coming to HC and GM(in some capacity). It's hard for some not to be excited about the potential. I think in reality, people are not claiming him to be the lock that Luck was. Just making the point that his potential is worth the risk.

O.city 01-02-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9271036)
I'm big on Geno, but I agree with this post entirely. No passes because of weather. He's going to deal with it in KC. He'll get better though.

How many snowstorms have the Chiefs played in, in the past 10 years? 2 maybe?

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9271048)
Whoever Reid decides is the franchise guy is just ****ing fine in my book. I don't care if he drafts Nasim at #1. Seriously. I trust the guy to make the right call.

Nassib.

And I'll call Reid a mother****ing dumbass if he does something that stupid.

jd1020 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9271052)
I think he was scheduled to fly tonight and thats why they stopped at 7

Reid was like: "Listen guys, it's been fun. Thanks for the meal, but I've got a ****ing plane to catch. See ya... never again."

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9271039)
It's not an excuse, it's legit explanation.

Look, I'm not all in on Geno. I like Tyler Wilson a lot too.

But the polarized nature of this argument is just maddening.

And stupid.

He's either a god on earth or a 4th round pick.

I don't think he's a 4th round pick. I also don't think his ceiling is nearly as high as you do.

So far tonight I've read that his defense is the reason his 2nd half might have been spotty and the weather in the bowl game.

I just can't get behind that. The weather is an excuse. I don't care what the other QB did, or didn't do. He's going to play in Denver in December here, and about 4 games from November-December every year in frigid weather that could be unfavorable.

He has to handle the elements. This isn't a dome QB, this is a guy who played in West Virginia for 4 years.

Rasputin 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9271029)
I could easily see Reid going with Barkley in the draft. Do you want to see Reid get hired?

It's funny, suppose Andy gets hired here and gets to pick the QB of his choice. Any of wich QB he takes the pundits will clammer all over & slobber all over that QB. Just watch. They won't question him after the Donavan McNabb pick.

Ceej 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9271054)
How many snowstorms have the Chiefs played in, in the past 10 years? 2 maybe?

I don't know.

HOW MANY??!??!

htismaqe 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9271054)
How many snowstorms have the Chiefs played in, in the past 10 years? 2 maybe?

3 in the past 11 years, home and away.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9271049)
What about Wilson's games vs Ole Miss? Or Miss State? Or A$M?

Liking a Qb on CP, that isn't another guys favorite is like mortal sin.


I like Geno, I like WIlson, hell I even like Bray.

Please, it is preached on this board that Geno is head and shoulders above every QB in this draft. Most people on this board will have an aneurism if you list Geno as the 3rd best QB in this draft...

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

He was definitely scheduled to fly tonight and meet with them in the morning.

O.city 01-02-2013 08:57 PM

I'm just excited as hell that we are in a position to draft a QB, in a spot where there are going to be 2 QB's available that immediately upgrade the position, and could become something more.


It's an exciting time in KC to be a Chiefs fan.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9271064)
Please, it is preached on this board that Geno is head and shoulders above every QB in this draft. Most people on this board will have an aneurism if you list Geno as the 3rd best QB in this draft...

Dude, there's literally like TWO PEOPLE that would do that - SNR and Sac.

Since when does two people become "most"?

:facepalm:

Mr_Tomahawk 01-02-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271067)
He was definitely scheduled to fly tonight and meet with them in the morning.

Brand new information.

Infidel Goat 01-02-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9270955)
So the defense is to blame for why Smith tailed off the 2nd half of the year.

C'mon now.

Geno's stats in his first six games:
196 of 260 (75.4%) for 2274 yards (11.6 yards per reception) with 25 TDs and 0 INTS.

Geno's stats in his last six games:
149 of 222 (67.1%) for 1584 (10.6 yard per reception) with 16 TDs and 4 INTs.

Sure. There's a little downturn in the second half, but it's hardly bad. And arguably the second six games were against a little better teams (5 teams who played in bowl games) than the first six games (3 teams who played in bowl games).

O.city 01-02-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9271064)
Please, it is preached on this board that Geno is head and shoulders above every QB in this draft. Most people on this board will have an aneurism if you list Geno as the 3rd best QB in this draft...

I think he has a higher upside than Wilson, but Bray might have higher upside than both.


Again, I like all 3 of the guys.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9271069)
It's an exciting time in KC to be a Chiefs fan.

I'll be excited if Reid is hired, but Pioli still must be fired. So the shadow of that worthless **** would still cloud things a bit.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271058)
I don't think he's a 4th round pick. I also don't think his ceiling is nearly as high as you do.

So far tonight I've read that his defense is the reason his 2nd half might have been spotty and the weather in the bowl game.

I just can't get behind that. The weather is an excuse. I don't care what the other QB did, or didn't do. He's going to play in Denver in December here, and about 4 games from November-December every year in frigid weather that could be unfavorable.

He has to handle the elements. This isn't a dome QB, this is a guy who played in West Virginia for 4 years.

Dude, playing in the cold isn't what we are talking about here. It rained all night in New York and then snowed on top of it. Guys were sliding all over the place.

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271067)
He was definitely scheduled to fly tonight and meet with them in the morning.

Thats why him missing the flight is kind of encouraging. It shows he is more than interested in this job.

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 08:59 PM

I like Tyler Wilson too just his concussions scare me. But there's aspects of geno i like like his game of chess he plays with DCs and his audibles and constantly thinking. I like his accuracy and strenght on his throws. And the weather was partly a factor and he wont have many of those here

Fritz88 01-02-2013 09:00 PM

God, the speculation here reminds me of the PM days.

O.city 01-02-2013 09:00 PM

I don't know why it's such a big deal if guys are high on Geno. Their favorite team is pretty much guaranteed to take a QB first overall.


Thats exciting.

NJChiefsFan 01-02-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9271022)
It shouldn't be an excuse.

He's going to have shitty weather games and I'm not going to give him a pass in those here either.

I agree. Again, and this may be an excuse for Geno supporters, but a lot of people were seeing Geno for the first time in that bowl game. I don't think its that crazy to understand that Geno supporters knew this was coming and wanted people to realize he shouldn't be judged by that game alone. I don't think it was as much about saying "hey you can't hold a QB responsible in bad weather with a bad defense."

I really just think it was a perfect storm. You had people who liked Geno knowing some would judge him on that game and they were ready to defend him with their life before the game even started. I know there are some that feel they have seen issues outside of the bowl game and that's fine, but the entire situation happened out of fear that people would judge him on that game alone.

The game counted and the results really happened. I don't think its an argument that the weather cancels it out. I think the argument really is that while the weather counts, you should realize you can't judge his potential upside on that game alone.

MeatRock 01-02-2013 09:01 PM

Glennon and Wilson have very high upsides. Wilson just needs to fix his sloppy footwork.

jd1020 01-02-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9271090)
I don't know why it's such a big deal if guys are high on Geno. Their favorite team is pretty much guaranteed to take a QB first overall.


Thats exciting.

Won't matter when Pioli is here for 2013, because they will all be done.

O.city 01-02-2013 09:01 PM

Hell, I'll take Landry Jones too. I don't think he's near as bad as some on here think.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2013 09:02 PM

All the revisionist history with former 1st round QBs is getting asburd.

I don't even want to IMAGINE the backlash on this board if drafturbators were pimping a black running athlete QB who had one 3,000-yard passing season in college as the #1 pick.

And yet...

SAUTO 01-02-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9271095)
Glennon and Wilson have very high upsides. Wilson just needs to fix his sloppy footwork.

Neck puts the ball behind his head on the windup
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O.city 01-02-2013 09:03 PM

Glennon has a hitch in his throwing motion and his accuracy is questionable, along with his mental leadership. He was shit against Virginia this year, a team that was awful.


I don't think his upside is near what Bray's is.

keg in kc 01-02-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9271082)
Thats why him missing the flight is kind of encouraging. It shows he is more than interested in this job.

You call that encouraging, I call that discouraging.

kcchiefs88 01-02-2013 09:03 PM

KCSP 610 just reported that Andy Reid never left for Arizona.

NJChiefsFan 01-02-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9271064)
Please, it is preached on this board that Geno is head and shoulders above every QB in this draft.

I think most guys support your boy Wilson as the only other acceptable choice. I will admit though that if you put Geno under anyone except Wilson, people(myself included) disagree.

Imon Yourside 01-02-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9271113)
You call that encouraging, I call that discouraging.

Not a fan of Reid?

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9271106)
Neck puts the ball behind his head on the windup
Posted via Mobile Device

I haven't seen nearly enough of him to be too adamant without coming off like a hypocrite, but I just don't see it with Glennon.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9271103)
All the revisionist history with former 1st round QBs is getting asburd.

I don't even want to IMAGINE the backlash on this board if drafturbators were pimping a black running athlete QB who had one 3,000-yard passing season in college as the #1 pick.

And yet...

Revisionist? Who's hiding from their stated opinion of four years ago?

jd1020 01-02-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefs88 (Post 9271114)
KCSP 610 just reported that Andy Reid never left for Arizona.

Could be because he's meeting them tomorrow.

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9271113)
You call that encouraging, I call that discouraging.

Dont want Reid?

NJChiefsFan 01-02-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9271103)
All the revisionist history with former 1st round QBs is getting asburd.

I don't even want to IMAGINE the backlash on this board if drafturbators were pimping a black running athlete QB who had one 3,000-yard passing season in college as the #1 pick.

And yet...

I think people forget over time the questions that existed for guys like Ryan, RG3. Cam, Wilson ect.

MeatRock 01-02-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9271106)
Neck puts the ball behind his head on the windup
Posted via Mobile Device

Agreed. High upside, mechanics need fixed though.

Strongside 01-02-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefs88 (Post 9271114)
KCSP 610 just reported that Andy Reid never left for Arizona.

I'm telling you guys...they're all dead in that room.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9271121)
I haven't seen nearly enough of him to be too adamant without coming off like a hypocrite, but I just don't see it with Glennon.

I'm in the same boat.

But I've seen enough to know his mechanics are wonky.

Consistently puts the ball almost behind his head on his long windup
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