McDowell the golfer is about like McDowell's the restaurant right now.

Els with an F-bomb....YES!!

"How can that ball not ****in' bounce??"

Didn't you, or someone here, say yesterday that McDowell is a choker?

Par for Mickelson....

Misread by Phil on 13.

I thought he was an incredibly lucky mother****er whose putting was an aberration. I thought he'd shoot 76 today.

I didn't expect Dustin Johnson to win until 18 yesterday, and I thought he'd shoot over par today, but I didn't expect him to completely ****ing melt down.

14 is ****ing ridiculous, and it may well be the hole where the championship is decided.

Phil and Ernie both hit really good tee shots on 14 and they still ran through the fairway.

An impossible drive and an impossible wedge into the green.

Phil just hit Ernie on 14

ROFL

Ernie just hit his 3rd into the false front on 14 and it rolled 30 yards off the front.

So did Phil.

Wow....Phil's probably dead now. That putt just didn't quite drop.

Somebody please hit it over the front of the green on 14.

What a good shot and break for Havret. That's a two shot break.

That's how you play 14. Hit into the bunker and get up and down.

Wait, what?

What are you doing Ernie?

What a choke by Els. What a choke.

Par may get you into a playoff here.

Missed an opportunity to make a move.

Havret getting debacled on 15.

McDowell, you insanely lucky mother****er.

:shake:

What do you mean "I took a chance"? That was a shitty yank.

Nobody wants this.

Phil hasn't hit one shot pin high today. Not one. He needs to focus less on trying to hit his irons farther than anyone, and more on controlling his distances.

Bye, bye, Phil.

This has been a really disappointing day. The Open is always a war of attrition, but this has just been awful golf.

It's amazing that Phil is that good and he didn't hit one iron worth a shit today. His iron game was ****ing pathetic.

Lot o' squares on Johnson's scorecard today.

I like this Mcdowell guy, seems pretty personable

At least the Frenchman didn't win.

Good lad, that McDowell. Good lad. Even though he's a Northie, I'll bet him and Padraig tip a few tonight.

Good short interview on The Golf Channel with McDowell's father.

Father: "Yer some kid" I says to him. And he says back to me: "Happy Fathers Day, Dad".

Do you think Tiger, Phil, and Ernie would have been happy if you told them on the range they could finish at 283 and won outright?

What a shitload of fail.

I got my first hole in 1 yesterday!!!!!111!!

Congrats!

What was the distance, club and bar tab following the round?

(Assuming you know the tradition of the guy scoring an ace buying drinks for all)

102 yard par 3 into a stiff breeze with a Callaway X22 Tour P Wedge, I hit it about 7 feet past the hole and sucked it back in. My tab was $267.

I was playing in a 4-ball match, we were down 4 entering hole 11. We came back to win 1 up.

Nice work.

Anybody know how to get a golf course to let you dive for golf balls? I have some scuba diving experience, and I'm looking to start a little business on the side. Probably sell ProV's and other higher class golf balls that way. One trip in the lake and if you find 3000-5000 balls. You figure you will yield AT LEAST .40 a ball if you get to keep them, but I'm sure the golf courses would want a rake.

Call and ask. A great deal of courses likely already have contracts with someone though.

If you don't mind gators TPC Sawgrass would be the best one to have.
17 alone would keep you busy

The water surrounding the 17th hole at TPC-Sawgrass will see 120,000 stray golf balls this year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/playe...ren&id=2380969

From same link


"It takes a special person to want to be a golf ball diver," said Dick Smith, owner of Midwest Diving Specialists, a diving school in Normal, Ill., that offers a golf ball diving course. "That person has to love treasure hunting and be extremely testosterone-laden."That's because diving doesn't come without a price.
Divers routinely report getting bitten by water moccasins and snapping turtles, and the ultimate impediment to collecting the used golf ball in Florida is the alligator.
"When I was diving in Virginia and the Carolinas, I was worried about the turtles, the snakes and the muskrats," said Larry Marcelli, owner of Golf Balls Galore, which takes in more than 2 million golf balls a year from courses in southwest Florida. "Then I got to Florida and all of that flew out the window. Those other animals weren't going to try and eat me."
Dettlaff says that divers will find alligators; two 8-foot gators recently were spotted on the 18th hole. But the upper-class golfing clientele -- players who pay between $119 and $257 per round, depending on the time of year -- makes finds in the waters of Sawgrass less interesting than those at some venues.
Marcelli says one of his divers found a person sitting at the wheel of a Volkswagen at the bottom of a lake in Fort Myers, Fla. Other reported submerged finds have included handguns, golf carts, a complete set of clubs with a wallet in it, a Barbie doll and a full telephone booth.

Paul Goydos shot 59 today, and he was barely the best score on the course. Steve Stricker shot 60. A bunch of nobodys play in this thing and 81 guys shot in the 60's today.

This was at TPC @ Deere Run outside of the quad cities. I've actually played there before. While I didn't think it was insanely hard (from the blue tees only), it had alot of challenging holes, and these guys play from the furthest back tees obviously and I'm sure they step it up a notch on the pins and dry out the greens a little when the PGA Tour comes to town.

This is a course that has a 75.6 rating where the pros play, and a slope of 145 and these guys just shredded it. Go to your local course, and 99.9% of the time you won't even see the tips near that hard. That just proves how good these guys are, and I'm sure all of these pros consider this a slouchy course even if it's one of the most challenging in that area of the country.

John Deere Classic is annually the one of the lowest scoring tournaments of the year.

Yep. Somebody might shoot 58 tomorrow.

Broke the shaft on my driver today (Ping G10) when my bag fell off the cart. ****. Now I have to decide between reshafting it, or just buying a new driver.

To top it off, completely imploded on my back nine today - 38-49. ****.

Just shot a 39 after hitting 7 of 9 greens.

20 ****ing putts, including 3 3 putts.

Of course, I also had an albatross on the course, but it wasn't a double eagle, it was my bitching and pouting wife. :banghead:

Call Ping to see the cost of re-shafting it before getting it done at a local shop. They have been very good about pricing in the past but it has been a while since I have broken on from them.

From my experience that is a pretty typical way to get to a 39 since most green hit in regulation leave long puts. Unless you were missing short puts there is nothing wrong with that.

Two putted one from 30 feet (GIR)
Three putted two from 30 feet (GIR) (missed a six footer...horrible first putt)
Two putted three from 6 feet (GIR)
Two putted four from 15 feet
One putted five from 8 feet (GIR)
Three putted six from 20 feet (GIR) (missed a three footer)
Three putted seven from 50 feet (GIR) (missed a 5 footer)
Two putted eight from 10 feet
Two putted nine from 15 feet (GIR)

Putts on 3, 6, and 9 all horseshoed out.

Hamas,

I was curious what your take was on the Ozik shaft on the Adams hybrid. Basically whether it looked like legit versus some proprietary shaft. I was thinking of buying another one to replace my Adams Pro in my current bag (the other is in my bag at my parents house). My current has a Proto VS.

This ebay ad has a decent look at it once you click on the pic:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADAMS-GOLF-IDEA-...item19bdb560ce

Ouch. Sounds like one of those rounds were you are playing well but you should be lighting it up.

From GolfWRX:

The shaft is a proprietary Ozik shaft made for Adams and is based off the Code 6 for driver and Code 7 for the Fairway woods. The Adams Oziks have a little more torque compared to the regular Code series.

It's easier on a lot of shafts than others. My Fubuki in my FT-9 is legit b/c it's a 63 gram shaft with the all gray paint. The 60 gram shafts with the reddish font are the "seconds".

Yeah. Didn't hit my driver that well, though. I only hit 2 fairways. I missed three more by about 2 yards, but hit another two off the Earf'.

Hit out of this watery gorse on 1 and made phenomenal contact with the ball. That's when I was pretty sure I was swinging well for the day.

Yeah I had read that before but it was in relation to one of their drivers that wasn't one of their pro models. I may just call them and ask.

Yeah. Didn't hit my driver that well, though. I only hit 3 fairways. I missed two more by about 2 yards, but hit another two off the Earf'.

Hit out of this watery gorse on 1 and made phenomenal contact with the ball. That's when I was pretty sure I was swinging well for the day.

I am usually pretty pleased to score well when my driver is off. Usually fall back on my 3-wood on an under 400 yd par 4 when that happens.

Sounds like your iron game was on if you hit that few of fairways.

Thanks, I'll look into that. I assume I'd have to pay shipping both ways, so i wonder if that really would be cheaper.

I'm going to go check out drivers at Golf Galaxy tomorrow, and see if anything grabs me. They're having a trade-in special that, if I understand it correctly, wil give me $115 trade in value for my old original R7 Quad that i have laying around. I want to check out the Ping G15 and TM Superfast TP at a minimum, and see if anything else looks tempting.

I have league on Monday, which is a bummer. Would suck to play without a driver...

For the most part:

These are the clubs I hit into each green:

8
baby 8
8
3 wood (230 yard par 3 uphill) (missed green)
flip sand wedge
4 iron (195 yard par 4)
flip sand wedge (par 5, drove it way right)
5 iron (terrible drive, missed green)
wedge

Hit Golf Galaxy this morning, and pounded the TM Superfast TP, Ping G15, and Ping I15. The I15 didn't work for me for some reason, but I was hitting both the SFTP and G15 pretty well. The G15 looked and felt a little nicer, but had a tendency to get a little snappy, and I'd hit a big hook left of left. I think this had to do with the shaft, and the slight draw bias of the setup. The SFTP sat slightly open, and seemed to prevent the big hook a little better, and I tended to hit it pretty straight, and it was quite forgiving - nice shaft on that club (Matrix Ozik HD6). Was fighing a bad back due to pulling sod yesterday, so I think that played a factor a bit on my session today, unfortunately.

Ended up going with the TM Superfast TP, for mostly financial reasons (all things being equal, I'm a big fan of Ping drivers). I got $106 in trade-in for my ancient dinged-up original R7 Quad (only good for a new TM purchase), which was awesome. There was also a $50 gift card special for TM drivers, bringing the price down to ~$150. Throw in a couple gift cards, and I didn't spend any money out of pocket - hard to beat that. If it doesn't work out, I should be able to sell it on ebay for more than I paid for it, which is nice.

Playing it tomorrow, so will be interesting to see how it plays...

Shot a 92 today. I was so close is so many spotsto getting that down to 87-88

The i15 would be a hard driver for a lot of people to hit because it has a cut face and the stock AXIV shaft is pretty boardy.

I was able to hit the SF TP well, and that face also sits open, so it must have been the shaft...

Daly's -7 through 16.

Name his 36 hole score.


145?

What's up with the tv coverage? Supposed to be live on ESPN, but I'm seeing Sportscenter...

Found it on ESPN2, which differs from my guide data, as well as all adds for the Open, and comments during Open highlights on Sportscenter. Weird.

Anybody know a quick fix to stop hitting my short irons fat? I don't know what the deal is. I launch my driver and basically anything teed up, but I keep hitting my short irons and wedges extremely fat.

Where is the ball positioned in your stance?

Middle, towards front foot, or towards back foot?

Make sure you're not sliding to your right (for a righty) on your backswing. I've had that fault before, which caused me to hit a lot of fat shots. For crisper contact, I try and keep my weight a little more on the left during the whole swing for my wedges...

Depends on what club I'm using. It's always where it's supposed to be for me at least, I don't think that has changed since I've got the chunks. Driver is inside of left heel, and each club I go down it moves back probably a half an inch.

Here's what I do when my short iron swing or alignment gets out of whack:

Put both feet together. Ball directly between both big toes.

Hit 20 balls from that position using a 1/3 or 1/2 swing.

Gradually move your feet further part every 10 balls or so until you've reached your normal position. Then start swinging fully.

Granted, you'll hit 50-60 balls doing this, but it works every time for me.

There are a lot of reasons why you could be hitting it fat. Is your ball flight higher than normal? Are you hitting more pulls, or popping it up a bit with your driver?

If it's just the short irons, you might be taking the club outside the line and then getting really steep on the downswing.

Interesting first round of the Open. Lead is at -9, but the real lead is -5.

It will be interesting to see where the lead is tomorrow, given that almost all the low rounds, sans Westwood, went off really early today.

Phil played like ass today, but he's actually not in bad shape, considering he caught a couple of horrible breaks with the putter.

Tiger is in really good shape, but he'll have a tough draw with the weather tomorrow, in all likelihood.

This was a par 68 for the guys who went out early and a 72 for the guys who went out late.

It wouldn't surprise me if the lead was -8 after tomorrow. Although if the weather is nice all day, it could be -13.

Stay in there BIG JOHN F'ing awesome!

Daly will shoot 80 tomorrow.

I just tuned in. Woods is using a new putter? And he just pulled a 3 footer. Ouch.

I golfed at Sycamore Ridge yesterday. It's $29.99 w/ a cart twilight rate. Hell of a deal. Supposed to be the best public golf course in Kansas.

I wasn't very impressed w/ the first nine. Probably because I think links golf is just ugly. The second nine was spectacular though. People have always told me that the course was hard, and I did real well on the first nine and thought the course wasn't as hard as people said, but the back nine ate me alive. I knew I wasn't going to get done before dark so I wasn't playing for score on the back nine, just trying to bust driver down the tight fairways but the back was much much harder than the front.

It's a very nice Colbert design. Not as good as Colbert Hills but for 29$ w\cart it's a great value. And yes, you better score well on the front because the back will tarnish a round if you ain't careful.

Suspending play due to high winds for the same guys who got the cake ass end of the draw yesterday.

This is one of the reason why, although I think the British Open is unique, it's highly steeped in bullshit.

Your success is almost entirely dependent upon when you tee off.

The announcers were saying that the suspension was due to it being impossible to replace a marked ball on some greens...

It was a very fortunate break for those who got it, especially those who had a lot of golf to play.

Basically, there are only a couple of slots where you had a chance to shoot a good two rounds.

You'd have to tee off super early and super late Thursday and Friday, or super late and super early Thursday and Friday.

Oosthuizen basically played a par 67 both days. He either played in windless conditions or soft and windless conditions.
Tiger got 18 holes of cake golf and 18 holes of very difficult golf.
Mickelson got 30 holes of very difficult golf and about 6 holes of very easy golf.

There's luck involved in every major, but far too much involved in the British. It devalues the championship at times, which sucks, because it's such a unique test of golf.

They honestly suspended play due to high winds?? I've never heard of that happening before

Tiger's first audible "God Dammit" of the tournament.