Because defenses have evolved, some of them specifically to counter MAHOMES. I firmly believe these last couple of years would have been identical to what we saw, even with Bienemy. They need new blood.

I honestly don't have a good answer because I've looked at all the options and none of them seem all that great.

At the end of the day, I would bet that Kingsley or a draft pick like him is eventually the LT. I have no idea how we get there, though

Put me in coach. I’m ready

Or…hear me out here. Nagy is just a colossal failure piggybacking off a great defense just like he was at Chicago.

I’m not saying bring Beinemy back. I of course want new blood as well. What you say is true and we need a new mind with new ideas to maximize the rest of our opportunity. But it still doesn’t change the fact that Nagy is literally kryptonite. He would be getting no less production out of Carson Wentz as Mahomes, that’s the problem. Mahomes is a pure gunslinger and it’s just not a fit.

I mean it honestly doesn’t matter because I already know how this plays out. They can’t maintain this level of defense with the personnel we are going to lose. Eventually you will come around and see how bad it really is.

There’s no way a guy like Nagy is going to just all of a sudden learn the meta of the NFL and start incorporating the pre-snap motion and RPO concepts we need to have to get our offense to be explosive again.

Unfortunately I’m very confident next year is going to be very disappointing.

I don't know what to tell you man. It's not Nagy's offense, it's Andy's.

Shocking that an offense relying on Kareem, Hopkins, Kelce and Juju this year didn’t look explosive.

I can only wonder why.

Super Bowl LV didn't include Matt Nagy.

I just don't know why we try to pin all the blame on the OC and never any of the credit.

There were people BEGGING for them to fire EB after the 2021 AFCCG vs. Cincy.

That is so ****ing slow.

If not for Worthy and eventually Brown, that's the slowest O in the league.

Said it all year when people were wanting to lean on the running game. This offense was not explosive.

What about a possible trade for Jake Matthews from Atlanta?

Older player who just turned 33 years old, but very durable… he’s started every game since 2015.

With Penix as a left handed QB, maybe the Falcons would be looking to reduce their investment at left tackle?

That game was one bad half(cincy). This game was 2. 0 points with 20 minutes remaining dude. Nobody is saying Beinemy is great

SB LV was injuries and our offense did much better in that game overall we didn’t convert in the red zone. We had 0 points and like 70 yards midway thru the third quarter in this game. I can’t stress it enough, because it’s an anomaly that shouldn’t exist. The last time this happened a crippled Payton manning who literally could not throw a spiral got beaten down. Why are we even trying to justify this?

Why do you conveniently leave off our two most explosive players who were both available?

I completely agree with you. In fact, when Nagy took over I said the offense would decay and fall to the bottom 1/3 of the league. Well, here we are...To answer your question, the answer that most here gave me was that it was Andy's offense, and he calls the plays. Now some of these posters are smart and have excellent takes most of the time and know their stuff. So I try to be respectful, but it's very hard on this particular subject. I mean I look and I just so much want to say Nagy's **** sticks are all over this offense and he's made the Chiefs look like the Bears right before he was fired. At least that's what the eye test says. And damn, if we don't look like the reincarnation of his Bears year four with Mahomes no less, I'll be damned. He's neutered Mahomes, and turned him into Alex Smith. Can't seem to adjust on the fly, has lame side ways passing game plans, and....**** it, Im just gonna stop b/c it just pisses me the **** off and I cant see how anyone can not see the same things I do...Dude just BLOWS! IMO. :shake:

htismaqe had a great statement the other day when he said whether Nagy sucks or not, Andy needs somebody else talking to him in his headset. I think he's spot on there. Its time.

Because when a team can get consistent heavy pressure with only 4, it becomes 7 vs 4 on the back end. Not hard to bracket Worthy and Hollywood when the others can’t separate.

It also helps that nobody fears any RB on this team this year.

The Chiefs are easy to defend when you have a consistent pass rush. We saw this against Denver and LAC.

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