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Megatron96 08-12-2024 01:28 PM

He looked decent in the short time he was out there. I mean, it's not like we need a great LT this season. We just need average-to-above average from him, for now. Yeah, he's going to have some bad reps, even a bad game or three, but as long as he trends positively I think he'll be "good enough."

BossChief 08-12-2024 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17627697)
I'm assuming he'll want an extension after year 3 if he plays up to his potential, and they'll obviously give it to him. So, was just thinking 3 years of truly dirt cheap play before we have to pony up some dough.

We will get 4 cheap years. Any extension after year 3 will tack on years, not overwrite that 4th year. Depending on structure, we might dven get 5 cheap years.

srvy 08-12-2024 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17627708)
It's not like the bar has been set that high, but you know damn well there will be people calling for Smith by halftime of the first game thread. It's just how it goes around here.

The fact is they have finally pulled of the band-aid, and the only way to solidify this position is to let the kid play. Hopefully, most people understand that. I'm going to trust Andy to make sure he's covered the first games and they aren't putting him in situations to get Mahomes killed. We've won games with freaking Cam Erving at LT, so I think we should survive with this kid, even early on.

I wont Smith looked finished at tail end of last year. That position is the 2nd hardest position on offense maybe 2nd hardest in all of football. I think thoughthat is a CB now with the rules favoring offense. But back to OT I could see if its close with Wanya and Kingsley Andy starts the season with the more experienced guy. We see little clips by reporters at training camp. How he is actually grading out we have no idea. What we see seems promising. I think to many people formed a judgement on Wanya on a game with a fired up Raider team new head coach and a top 3 defensive line that was inspired.

Wisconsin_Chief 08-12-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17627729)
We will get 4 cheap years. Any extension after year 3 will tack on years, not overwrite that 4th year. Depending on structure, we might dven get 5 cheap years.

I'm talking in terms of straight cash. Even if it's not hitting the cap right away, by that time you're probably looking at a minimum of $175 million over 5 years, if not more, including a massive signing bonus. It will hinder our ability to spend money elsewhere. I know Veach has always said Clark doesn't limit his spending, but I think he limits himself to an extent, and I'm sure there's a soft number Clark doesn't like exceeding in a given offseason.

Any way you slice it, he's dirt cheap for a long time, and that is lovely.

ChiefGator 08-12-2024 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17627753)
I'm talking in terms of straight cash. Even if it's not hitting the cap right away, by that time you're probably looking at a minimum of $175 million over 5 years, if not more, including a massive signing bonus. It will hinder our ability to spend money elsewhere. I know Veach has always said Clark doesn't limit his spending, but I think he limits himself to an extent, and I'm sure there's a soft number Clark doesn't like exceeding in a given offseason.

Any way you slice it, he's dirt cheap for a long time, and that is lovely.

I think by the time he gets expensive, if he is good, he will get one more contract here. And you rebuild the inside of your OLine with cheaper rookies, as Creed and Smith's possible extensions roll off.

Hammock Parties 08-12-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17627478)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All four Kingsley Suamataia pass pro reps:<br><br>-Movement Skills on display<br>-Saw a nasty Cross-Chop from Hines-Allen, but the calmness to try and relocate hands is promising<br>-Saw Jump set, 45 degree, and Vertical pass sets in limited action. Believe he&#39;s the week 1 starter <a href="https://t.co/6nrvBHywWX">pic.twitter.com/6nrvBHywWX</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1822795903331418337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He moves way better than Wanya.

PatMahomesIsGod 08-12-2024 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17627791)
He moves way better than Wanya.

Wanya is a future guard.

BWillie 08-12-2024 03:51 PM

This guy being good at all is huge news because Morris was not the answer there. Significant upgrade at LT vs what we had last year is likely.

RINGLEADER 08-12-2024 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17627791)
He moves way better than Wanya.

Looking good Billie Ray…

Pitt Gorilla 08-12-2024 10:23 PM

He has everything but experience. That, to me, is exactly where you want to be. With our coaches and Pat, he's going to have all the opportunities in the world to put his plus body and plus brains to work.

RedinTexas 08-13-2024 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17627697)
I'm assuming he'll want an extension after year 3 if he plays up to his potential, and they'll obviously give it to him. So, was just thinking 3 years of truly dirt cheap play before we have to pony up some dough.

Three years of truly dirt cheap play at one of the highest paid positions on the field. It doesn't get much better than that.

O.city 08-13-2024 06:57 AM

He'll have some bumps but he's athletic. Should be fine.

Good place to be. Just play him thru the struggles, give him some help etc.

RunKC 08-13-2024 06:59 AM

If this guy works then everything changes. Decent LT for 7-10 years is so valuable

VAChief 08-13-2024 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17627922)
Wanya is a future guard.

Hopefully, because our backups suck right now.

wazu 08-13-2024 10:32 AM

Well this is pretty awesome.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs rookie left tackle Kingsley Suamataia seemed content with his first preseason performance. <br><br>He noted that in going against one of the best pass rushers in the league in Josh Hines-Allen and holding his own, he already has the sense that he belongs here in the NFL. <a href="https://t.co/zPfxNamy9W">pic.twitter.com/zPfxNamy9W</a></p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1823395515251208495?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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