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Quesadilla Joe 04-18-2017 01:01 AM

Some pretty interesting QB discussion between DJ, Bucky, and Lance Zierlien at the 16:35 to 27 minute mark.

http://www.nfl.com/podcasts?id=f8dd2...f5bd99ac54d804

MahiMike 04-18-2017 02:44 PM

Just started watching Gruden's camps. After seeing Watson, I want no part of this guy.

He can't talk! And he's a 'communications' major. He can't call plays in the huddle. And he threw 32 picks the last 2 years. In college. That transfers to about 20/yr in the pros.

Pass.

DJ's left nut 04-18-2017 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12829368)
Just started watching Gruden's camps. After seeing Watson, I want no part of this guy.

He can't talk! And he's a 'communications' major. He can't call plays in the huddle. And he threw 32 picks the last 2 years. In college. That transfers to about 20/yr in the pros.

Pass.

Key figure for the 'arm strength isn't important' crowd:

The difference between Watson's velocity and Mahomes velocity on a 20 yard throw (or about a 15 yard out by the time you factor in the lateral range) is 4 feet. When Mahomes throws that ball, by the time it gets to his WR, Watson's pass is still 4 ft behind it.

In temporal terms, it takes Mahomes about .15 seconds less time to get from hand to target than Watson. If that's a WR, a .15 second 40 difference gets him killed but what good is that extra speed if the QB gives it all back?

That 4 ft makes all the difference between a first down and a pick 6. Think of how many windows close just as the DB gets there and how many times that ball gets batted/taken away if the ball is 4 feet further back at that same point in time.

Arm issues are leading to some of these picks for Watson. There's a very good argument to make that he simply doesn't have NFL arm strength.

raybec 4 04-18-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12829466)
Key figure for the 'arm strength isn't important' crowd:

The difference between Watson's velocity and Mahomes velocity on a 20 yard throw (or about a 15 yard out by the time you factor in the lateral range) is 4 feet. When Mahomes throws that ball, by the time it gets to his WR, Watson's pass is still 4 ft behind it.

In temporal terms, it takes Mahomes about .15 seconds less time to get from hand to target than Watson. If that's a WR, a .15 second 40 difference gets him killed but what good is that extra speed if the QB gives it all back?

That 4 ft makes all the difference between a first down and a pick 6. Think of how many windows close just as the DB gets there and how many times that ball gets batted/taken away if the ball is 4 feet further back at that same point in time.

Arm issues are leading to some of these picks for Watson. There's a very good argument to make that he simply doesn't have NFL arm strength.

All he does is win in....5,4,3,2

Quesadilla Joe 04-19-2017 10:16 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“If you believe the Bears want a QB (at 3), I got a bridge in Arizona for you” - An NFL executive to me today</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/854721311121256449">April 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Almost no matter what, I&#39;ve been told, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash">#Bears</a> want to leave the first two rounds with a Quarterback in this draft.</p>&mdash; Eric Galko (@OptimumScouting) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptimumScouting/status/854728992687050752">April 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Quesadilla Joe 04-19-2017 10:43 AM

From DJ's "Ask 5"...


Ask 5: Who'll be first QB selected in 2017 NFL Draft?
Spoiler!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...487-sf71542487

Tribal Warfare 04-19-2017 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12830679)
From DJ's "Ask 5"...


Ask 5: Who'll be first QB selected in 2017 NFL Draft?
Spoiler!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...487-sf71542487

LOL, NFL FOs are really riling up the media

Quesadilla Joe 04-19-2017 01:00 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Under-the-radar QB who could be the next Trevor Siemian? Cen. Mizzou’s Garrett Fugate. Coming off an ACL, worked out for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash">#Packers</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/854770975258312704">April 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Chief Northman 04-19-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12830841)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Under-the-radar QB who could be the next Trevor Siemian? Cen. Mizzou’s Garrett Fugate. Coming off an ACL, worked out for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash">#Packers</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/854770975258312704">April 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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"The next" Trevor Siemien.

Media making comparisons to a one-year starter. Fan****ingtastic.

I'm sure people are salivating over the next Siemien.

Beef Supreme 04-19-2017 01:23 PM

The next Trevor Siemien is such an awesome endorsement.

At least you could pronounce his last name "Fuggit."

Quesadilla Joe 04-20-2017 06:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you missed Path to the Draft over the last three days, one of the most interesting rumors circulating is that Jaguars could go QB at #4.</p>&mdash; Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein/status/855039333765713920">April 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I don't buy it...

Quesadilla Joe 04-20-2017 09:10 AM

Some thoughts on Deshaun Watson from Albert Breer...

Spoiler!
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/20/a...mpact-notebook

Hammock Parties 04-20-2017 05:00 PM

he's got terabytes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C94LqcKXoAEvlt1.jpg:large

Quesadilla Joe 04-21-2017 01:04 PM

Just some fun rumors from an old NFL scout Dave-Te Thomas...

Spoiler!


http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com...&thread=551640


Spoiler!


http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com...&thread=551576

staylor26 04-21-2017 01:29 PM

If the Broncos trade up for McCaffrey LMAO


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