His work was marred? He had 2 rings prior to that. You don't get 5 rings without knowing how to run a defense. He will be a massive upgrade if the deal gets done.

The hell we don't have the pieces. Bill has not won the SB without Romey and Charlie and Scott. He still has one hell of a team but the SB is all that matters espceially for NE since they won 3 in the last 10 years. They were outted at home this year in the first round. He is looking like he is overrated.

Yes, Weis and Crenell clearly weren't important. Belichick has won a lot without them.

I'm tired of this same old song and dance bullshit. Belichick was an awful HC before he struck gold with the Patriots. Weis and Crenell should be given more credit than they are for the successes in NE. Brady talks about Weis like he was pivotal in his career. Go over to Patriot message boards, they loved Romeo.

I can understand the BB is a god, but he didn't become a god on his own.

I don't think Weis and Romeo are good HC's by any stretch, but they are damn good coordinators and this team is lucky to have them.

He was the DC defense for five Super Bowl teams?

Huh?

Mecca also said Pete Carroll would only work for the Niners.

Oh and Hog Farmer, you can **** yourself you ****ing tard neg repping me in a thread where I gave inside info.

Premature?

So they didn't just go 4-12 after bringing in 45 new guys without finding an impact player while overseeing the worst draft in perhaps the entire history of the franchise?

Really?

I don't know how I feel about the defense Romeo runs.

But I feel pretty confident he'll make this D-line a lot better. He's a technician of this 2-gap 3-4 D-line. That means that I also feel pretty confident that he'll be instrumental in being the right NT in too.

Well we also went 2-14 after having the maybe one of the most successful drafts in the history of the franchise (if it all bears out).

I think judging Pioli and Haley right now is premature as well.

Proclaiming them a failure is premature.

Judging (as in evaluating) them from day one is perfectly fair. That's what Clark should be doing, anyway.

I will pay for your vasectomy.

Yeah I'm ok with that. But people who already talk of Pioli and Haley needing to be fired and saying they are the worst in the business are talking out of their ass.

History has shown repeatedly that coordinators do just fine in other stints. Head coaches tend to be unable to do it because they always demand more power, get it, and that ends up being the end of them. But guys like Wade Phillips, Gregg Williams, Mike Nolan, Dick Lebeau... these are examples of some really good coordinators who've repeated success in different places.

Crennel's history is a little scarier. But I guarantee that Shanahan becomes a mediocre head coach while Charlie Weis does a really good job with the Chiefs.

ROFL I just happened to have worked with a guy in the past who now has a connection with the Chiefs. They are a member here and lurk. They recognized me from my tailgate pictures and stopped by one time. When I found out where he worked now......I made him a deal.

Maybe so.

But someone would have had to restrain me from going down on the sideline when 4/8/28 occurred. And there were a handful of these kinds of moments.

Let's hope it gets better; it sure as hell needs to.