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raybec 4 02-03-2015 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11308323)
If you ever have been or know a cocaine addidict then you know its impossible train and compete in MMA on the level he does. Its hell on the body.

Rico Rodriguez says different. Boxing has more than it's fair share of examples to refute that as well.

BigCatDaddy 02-03-2015 08:25 AM

I know Rico had a positive test when he was fighting tomato cans outside the UFC as his career was in the shitter? Was he a daily user then?

raybec 4 02-03-2015 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11308378)
I know Rico had a positive test when he was fighting tomato cans outside the UFC as his career was in the shitter? Was he a daily user then?

He did a stint on some rehab reality show

BigCatDaddy 02-03-2015 08:51 AM

Common sense here goes a long way. Dude test positive for a substance in December that is not a performance enhancer, but actually effects the cardiovascular and muscular systems in a negative way if used daily. Kicks this awful disease 4 weeks prior to the biggest fight of his career while in the middle of a training camp then goes out and kicks DC's ass for 5 rounds. Is sent to rehab then given the boot 24 hours later.

Yeah, dude just likes to party a bit hard on occasion. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm not emotionally invested in the guy either way, but I do enjoy watching him fight since he is damn good so I don't care if he's an addict or not. I'm just putting things in perspective here.

IMO Dana played it up a bit to garner some sympathy for him as a victim that is trying to over come his demons rather than saying dude when out had a few drinks and a few lines at the club.

alnorth 02-03-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11308323)
If you ever have been or know a cocaine addidict then you know its impossible train and compete in MMA on the level he does. Its hell on the body.

Yep, if he's a real full-blown cocaine addict, then he's not going to win fights. Recreational cocaine use is possible, tons of people did it in the 70's and 80's.

BigCatDaddy 02-03-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11308480)
Yep, if he's a real full-blown cocaine addict, then he's not going to win fights. Recreational cocaine use is possible, tons of people did it in the 70's and 80's.

Exactly. You can be an addict and maybe whip Fatty Fatterson and Dan's Pub and Grub, but not the best fighters on planet Earth. Alex Smith has a better shot of leading the league in passing yards than Jones being an "addict".

alnorth 02-03-2015 08:25 PM

Breaking News: Both Silva and Diaz pissed hot.

Diaz for MJ, which who cares. But Silva's apparently positive for steroids, pending a test of his B sample. Silva probably needs to retire if true.

KC native 02-03-2015 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11309655)
Breaking News: Both Silva and Diaz pissed hot.

Diaz for MJ, which who cares. But Silva's apparently positive for steroids, pending a test of his B sample. Silva probably needs to retire if true.

I think Silva's done regardless. The post-fight interview just screamed "I wanted to show I can win ONE more fight and not go out like Chuck Liddell." to me.

alnorth 02-03-2015 08:34 PM

Minor bit of controversy. Silva's test was an out of competition test from an independent lab on January 9th. Nevada and the UFC did not receive the results of the test until today. If they would have gotten it before UFC 183, Silva would not have been able to fight.

The cynical conclusion is obvious, but officially, no one knows why it took so long for the independent lab to notify Nevada and the UFC.

Chief_For_Life58 02-03-2015 08:34 PM

it was drostanolone. A cutting cycle anabolic. Using it to make weight i guess

alnorth 02-03-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11309667)
I think Silva's done regardless. The post-fight interview just screamed "I wanted to show I can win ONE more fight and not go out like Chuck Liddell." to me.

Yeah, its looking like Silva knew damned well he was gonna fail the test and was looking at it as his last fight.

alnorth 02-03-2015 08:37 PM

Silva also tested positive for a 2nd banned steroid, Androsterone

BigCatDaddy 02-03-2015 08:38 PM

Diaz needs rehab.

KC native 02-03-2015 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11309700)
Diaz needs rehab.

Diaz gives no ****s. He'll take his year suspension from the Nevada Athletic Commission and fight again next year.

BigCatDaddy 02-03-2015 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11309703)
Diaz gives no ****s. He'll take his year suspension from the Nevada Athletic Commission and fight again next year.

Yeah, that waa sarcasm.


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