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alnorth 10-07-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7974422)
I'll reread your post when you stop ignoring the numerous counterpoints to your stupid and ignorant posts on football recruiting.

You seriously have no clue what you are talking about.

:spock:

You are right, I haven't been replying to anyone's points, I'm just ignoring all responses and bulldozing my way forward.

If we're just going to talk past each other, then there's not much left to talk about, all we'll end up doing is annoy each other. There's a large number of fans, especially on Tigerboard, who are hell-bent on believing that nothing bad will happen to their recruiting, and there is nothing that will change that assumption except maybe a decade of results.

mnchiefsguy 10-07-2011 12:00 PM

I think the KU fans in this thread are no longer afraid of Mizzou leaving because it will break up the BIG XII....but instead deep down they know there might a possibility that Mizzou football might just move to the next level. I think the thought of a competitive Mizzou fighting for an SEC divisional title year in year out with national exposure drives them crazy.

If Mizzou can't hack it in the SEC, then bottom line, they weren't going to hack it in the BIG XII either. At least Mizzou will have taken a chance at being something special, and competing in the elite football conference in college football.

The KU fans are like the fans on here that are afraid for the Chiefs to draft a qb because it might be a bust. The Mizzou fans are the ones that are saying draft the guy, and take a shot, knowing that it might fail. I think Mizzou fans are comfortable with taking that chance.

|Zach| 10-07-2011 12:01 PM

Missouri has been taking kids that were over looked and putting them in a position to play on Sundays. That won't stop.

BigCatDaddy 10-07-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7974428)

Where is the link stating Pinkel wants to go to the SEC? Even if he did it doesn't tell me shit other then he is a dumbass.

|Zach| 10-07-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7974429)
Nope - losses.

But they're points worth making when discussing the overall strength of a football program. We're not going out there and having teams like Georgia Tech set records against us.

Mizzou, even when it loses, isn't getting embarrassed. It's all about the evolution of the program. Teams go from getting their asses kicked by everyone (KU), to beating bad teams but getting stomped by elite teams (the Daniel era Tigers) to beating the bad teams and hanging with the elite teams (hopefully where we are now) to simply winning against anyone (OU, Alabama, Florida).

It's fair to point out that the MU program has progressed a great deal over the last decade to the point where we can absolutely claim to be as good or better than WVU and all but about 20 programs in the nation.

But that's okay - enjoy the smack talk while you can. Grandpa Bill ain't gonna live forever and you fellas will go back to the kids table soon enough.

:clap:

alnorth 10-07-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7974432)
If Mizzou can't hack it in the SEC, then bottom line, they weren't going to hack it in the BIG XII either. At least Mizzou will have taken a chance at being something special, and competing in the elite football conference in college football.

Again, it is not the competition, it is the (lack of) recruiting in what will become the SEC's Siberia. There are some ignorant KU/UT/whatever fans who are saying "LOL Alabama, Florida and LSU will crush the Tigers, good luck!", but that argument misses the point.

If Mizzou can maintain their recruiting in the SEC, then there's no reason why things can't come together every once in a while for a conference championship.

My argument is that you will likely fail in the SEC, not because the teams are tough, but because you'll be one of the last SEC options, whereas you are currently the 3rd or 4th Big 12 option.

There is no way to scientifically prove that, so I guess we'll have to come back in 2021 and revisit what happened.

mnchiefsguy 10-07-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7974429)
Nope - losses.

But they're points worth making when discussing the overall strength of a football program. We're not going out there and having teams like Georgia Tech set records against us.

Mizzou, even when it loses, isn't getting embarrassed. It's all about the evolution of the program. Teams go from getting their asses kicked by everyone (KU), to beating bad teams but getting stomped by elite teams (the Daniel era Tigers) to beating the bad teams and hanging with the elite teams (hopefully where we are now) to simply winning against anyone (OU, Alabama, Florida).

It's fair to point out that the MU program has progressed a great deal over the last decade to the point where we can absolutely claim to be as good or better than WVU and all but about 20 programs in the nation.

But that's okay - enjoy the smack talk while you can. Grandpa Bill ain't gonna live forever and you fellas will go back to the kids table soon enough.

Excellent post..and this why I am excited about Mizzou moving on.

ChiefsCountry 10-07-2011 12:05 PM

Here is a couple of Texas kids that played in the SEC
http://isportsweb.com/wp-content/upl...1/Stafford.jpg
http://www.thefastertimes.com/nflpre...g-McElroy1.jpg

DJ's left nut 10-07-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7974424)
Sorry if this has been said, but IMO the best thing for MU would be to force the Big 12 back into 2 divisions where they would spearhead the north. With Nebraska gone they would be favored most years to win it and eventually they are gonig to beat a south team a year here or a year there and get their BCS Bowl game I really just have a hard time seeing a path to a BCS Bowl game for them in the SEC.

I've been trying to play racquetball more often of late and the guy I play with, I can beat right at 60% of the time. That said - I have a shit backhand, I mean absolute shit. So the last game I tried to get him to serve from the other side of the court, at my backhand. I lost and lost badly, every single game. I'll continue to lose badly until I figure that shit out, but I guarantee you I'll figure it out.

What's best for MU is to learn to play its backhand, not to keep getting by against a weaker opponent off one trick.

You continue to misinterpret MU fan's goals in all this - we like the North titles and all - but don't worship them (like Beakers and their Orange Bowl). What we want is to simply have great football in Columbia. We know our record is going to be worse for being the SEC, but I also fully expect that we'll field teams over the coming years that would absolutely piss-pound teams like last year's and the year before's.

"Spearheading the North" will stall us. We'll be a nice little program that gets on TV sometimes but never really shows up nationally. And yeah - that's probably about where we'll end up in the SEC as well, but the odds of us being something more than that improve in the SEC over the XII.

kstater 10-07-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7974429)
).

It's fair to point out that the MU program has progressed a great deal over the last decade to the point where we can absolutely claim to be as good or better than WVU and all but about 20 programs in the nation.
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WVU has 5 conference championships in the last decade in a BCS league(The weakest BCS league mind you). Mizzou? They appeared the the CCG that one time.

DaKCMan AP 10-07-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7974399)
right now? Probably WVU, but Mizzou could pass them soon. The Big East is dead. If WVU is left out of conference realignment, they are dead in the water.

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7974405)
West Virginia.

Ok. So WVU has 19 players on their current roster that are from the state of Florida. Why don't you think a Mizzou team that's in the SEC couldn't compete for those 19 kids?

|Zach| 10-07-2011 12:10 PM

LSU's former recruiting coordinator was brought to Missouri 3 years ago. He will be someone to lean on I imagine.

DJ's left nut 10-07-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7974447)
WVU has 5 conference championships in the last decade in a BCS league(The weakest BCS league mind you). Mizzou? They appeared the the CCG that one time.

If this is the best argument you have, you should probably back it in.

The Tigers would've !@#$ing annihilated the Big East over the last 10 years.

But that's okay, big fella - let it all out. I know the Ron Prince years took a lot out of you and I'm sure the coming decade isn't going to be much kinder.

BigCatDaddy 10-07-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7974445)
I've been trying to play racquetball more often of late and the guy I play with, I can beat right at 60% of the time. That said - I have a shit backhand, I mean absolute shit. So the last game I tried to get him to serve from the other side of the court, at my backhand. I lost and lost badly, every single game. I'll continue to lose badly until I figure that shit out, but I guarantee you I'll figure it out.

What's best for MU is to learn to play its backhand, not to keep getting by against a weaker opponent off one trick.

You continue to misinterpret MU fan's goals in all this - we like the North titles and all - but don't worship them (like Beakers and their Orange Bowl). What we want is to simply have great football in Columbia. We know our record is going to be worse for being the SEC, but I also fully expect that we'll field teams over the coming years that would absolutely piss-pound teams like last year's and the year before's.

"Spearheading the North" will stall us. We'll be a nice little program that gets on TV sometimes but never really shows up nationally. And yeah - that's probably about where we'll end up in the SEC as well, but the odds of us being something more than that improve in the SEC over the XII.


As an OU fan I guess I still don't get it. I'm perfectly happy in the Big 12 where we can get a national title game every 3 years or so then trying to run the gauntlet that is the SEC. Eventually they will win a few of those games and let's say Stoops ends up 3-5 in title games. I'll take that all day long.

eazyb81 10-07-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7974440)
Again, it is not the competition, it is the (lack of) recruiting in what will become the SEC's Siberia. There are some ignorant KU/UT/whatever fans who are saying "LOL Alabama, Florida and LSU will crush the Tigers, good luck!", but that argument misses the point.

If Mizzou can maintain their recruiting in the SEC, then there's no reason why things can't come together every once in a while for a conference championship.

My argument is that you will likely fail in the SEC, not because the teams are tough, but because you'll be one of the last SEC options, whereas you are currently the 3rd or 4th Big 12 option.

There is no way to scientifically prove that, so I guess we'll have to come back in 2021 and revisit what happened.

Your argument makes no sense and is built on hyperbole.

You said our Texas recruiting will suffer because we won't play in Texas nearly as often, but didn't respond when I pointed out that we would go from 1 game on average in TX to 0.5 games.

You said proximity matters, but didn't respond when I pointed out that Columbia is closer to many deep south locales than Houston, a huge recruiting area for us.

You've clearly have built into your head that Mizzou will fail miserably in SEC recruiting to help you cope. Do your thing.


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