In all honesty, I'd love to see Pinkel coach for another 5 years, bring in Christensen to run the show and slide up to the AD's role.

I liked him well enough when I was at Truman, but I've developed an incredible respect for him since I've come to Columbia. He's really a remarkable guy.

As soon as it became apparent that Pinkel was on board, I was full-steam ahead on this thing. If he's up for the challenge and if he thinks ending his coaching career in the SEC is worth doing, then I believe him.

West Virginia.

Proximity matters, a lot. This whole "of course kids in Texas want to play in the SEC!" argument doesn't fly, because aside from LSU and Arkansas (proximity), they don't go to SEC schools in significant numbers now.

If you really think that a good talented kid in the deep south, with a lot more options in the SEC than a Texas kid has in the Big 12, will choose to go to Columbia over all the deep south SEC schools, then I don't know what to tell you.

translation: "I don't have an answer. I believe Pinkel will beat all the SEC powers and convince kids to go to SEC's siberia through the magic of wishful thinking and unicorns"

I agree that West Virginia presently has a better football team.

I don't think they have a better program.

Let's not forget that MU just had 2 players go top 10 in the NFL draft and lost on the road in overtime against a very strong Arizona team (a game they should have won) and stuck to within 10 against a pissed of OU team in Norman.

MU's future is very very bright, SEC or otherwise.

Good point. Mizzou is very close in proximity to Texas.

Fun tip: Columbia is almost 200 miles closer to Atlanta than it is to Houston.

Moral victory!!! http://goemaw.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/Excited.gif

W.Virginia and the kids they get from FL are the ones that have offers from Fl International and Atlantic.

re-read my post. deep south kids have a ton of options. Big 12 kids do not, unless they think they can be the man who rebuilds Baylor or Okie State.

When Pinkel first came to Missouri, I didn't think he would last at all. Couple of my teammates were recruited by Mizzou, this would have been Pinkel's second year or so, and they were the biggest douchebag coaches I had met. Yost is a complete ****head IMO. Pinkel was a dick basically as well. I think Aaron O'Neils's death changed how they did things in Columbia, bc they have took a complete 360 from where they used to be. I run into Pinkel all the time during the summer at the Lake, he is a different guy than he was 10 years ago. He will never take Mizzou to a National Championship level but he is in that solid next tier below those guys for sure.

Is shit real yet?

I'll reread your post when you stop ignoring the numerous counterpoints to your stupid and ignorant posts on football recruiting.

You seriously have no clue what you are talking about.

Sorry if this has been said, but IMO the best thing for MU would be to force the Big 12 back into 2 divisions where they would spearhead the north. With Nebraska gone they would be favored most years to win it and eventually they are gonig to beat a south team a year here or a year there and get their BCS Bowl game I really just have a hard time seeing a path to a BCS Bowl game for them in the SEC.

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That should sum it up for you.

Nope - losses.

But they're points worth making when discussing the overall strength of a football program. We're not going out there and having teams like Georgia Tech set records against us.

Mizzou, even when it loses, isn't getting embarrassed. It's all about the evolution of the program. Teams go from getting their asses kicked by everyone (KU), to beating bad teams but getting stomped by elite teams (the Daniel era Tigers) to beating the bad teams and hanging with the elite teams (hopefully where we are now) to simply winning against anyone (OU, Alabama, Florida).

It's fair to point out that the MU program has progressed a great deal over the last decade to the point where we can absolutely claim to be as good or better than WVU and all but about 20 programs in the nation.

But that's okay - enjoy the smack talk while you can. Grandpa Bill ain't gonna live forever and you fellas will go back to the kids table soon enough.