Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17590616)

Josh Allen shit his pants AT HOME against his bitter rival Chiefs. Dude fumble sixed the game away as well but the Chiefs wouldn't take the gift. Hardman fumbled inside the 1 to boot and he STILL couldn't get it done. IF HE DOESN'T PLAY HERO BALL on the final series, they could have won in regulation instead of putting it on Bass.

I'm sorry that the truth hurts but just like your battles with staylor...against Mahomes in the playoffs he comes up short!

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17590794)

Also should've had a pick six too.

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17590752)

The second down play is bad because for one, it wasn’t even close to a dagger. The game situation absolutely matters there. Also either Jones is pressuring him and it’s a risky throw that could get tipped, off target, etc, or it’s a wide open TD that Allen should hit almost every time. It can’t be both. Pretty lucky it fell harmlessly as it is. And if he’s going to throw he’s got to have the awareness to step a few feet in either direction to avoid the pressure. But if he’s feeling the need to get rid of the ball then he should have done the safe easy throw to set up, at minimum, third and short instead of going for what turned into a challenging throw because of pressure and not avoiding it.

The play where Mahomes pumps and pulls it back is here at 30:40. Somewhere someone posted the all-22 showing they had something called for Kelce that looked a little iffy. There was a window but it wasn’t worth the risk so be checked it down. You know he would have loved a big chunk play to Kelce but he didn’t just go with it without evaluating the situation.

https://youtu.be/iOwSSXmKJM8?si=r2pf3PDeWD38vEV8

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17590873)

Why would you be shocked? The Bills were pretty clearly operating that drive like they intended it to be the last of the game once Diggs dropped the deep ball on the first play. 16 plays and almost half a quarter worth of game time. Given the state of their defense and their almost complete inability to stop anything the Chiefs offense tried, that was the correct move.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17590860)

I’m also shocked Chiefs fans are arguing that going for the TD in that situation wasn’t the right move. Like we didn’t just watch Alex Smith pass up on these types of plays for six years.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17590822)

My mind is blown that you’d consider that play risky. If that’s what you consider risky, I don’t know how you stomach the 600+ passes Reid will call every year. You could have a bad snap, fumbled snap, etc.

I remember that play you linked, but I didn’t see what happened downfield. Romo seemed certain it had a good chance of being INT and so did Mahomes. That’s enough for me.

I don’t see those plays as similar at all, though. That missed TD in the Bills game wasn’t risky at all. The coverage was beaten. The WR was NFL open.

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17590622)

I love to trash Burrow too...Problem?

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17590907)

Why does it have to be a rigid mindset? There's absolutely times when being conservative is the correct move.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17591004)

Honestly, I don’t understand some of these “You have to be nice to Allen and Burrow because they’re also good QBs!” Chiefs fans. I never have.

“Are you insecure???” No. My QB is #1 and my team is #1. It’s called punching down and it’s quite fun. Ya’ll should try it some time

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17590674)

You need to watch this video for those three plays. That one you linked is leaving out a ton. The first down play Diggs settles to a spot but Allen kept leading him. If Diggs kept going where the ball is thrown he gets blown up. On second down Diggs doesn’t even come close to touching the ball because it was a terrible and forced throw. Again this video confirms it. McDuffie gets one hand on it preventing an easy INT for Snead.

Starts at 1:40

https://youtu.be/I6UzerC7LC8?si=i_pCP-zgAqvv699e

On the later second down play Diggs may or may not get a first but he’s wide open for good yardage. The fact Allen didn’t throw it there but instead forced it to the end zone, while earlier forcing it to Diggs, proves he’s not out there thinking or reading on this last drive at all. Nearly every pass was just a force to someone without finding the best place to go.

Regarding the Mahomes play in the Super Bowl not even remotely comparable in situation or even in execution. Mahomes threw as safe a pass as you can. There’s no way you actually believe those are similar situations or that QB handled them similarly at all. The one I specifically referenced where Mahomes pulls it back for the easy smart yards is almost an exact mirror situation of Allen passing on Diggs for the force to the end zone.