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staylor26 03-15-2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13471249)
And is that a compliment to him or an insult to the others? And if our secondary didn't do well with him and Peters as 1/2, is it going to get better with him and Fuller as 1/2?

I was just pointing it out because it seemed like you were implying that it was something new for him.

Also, it’s hard to judge when you have Frank Zombo starting. Nelson wasn’t even playing when Ford was healthy and the pass rush wasn’t nonexistent. All things considered I think he did alright. He graded out average under those conditions, which wasn’t nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13471268)
That's all fine and dandy until we run into a power running team in the playoffs and they keep our offense off the field by running the ball down our throats.

Again, the Tennessee Titans aren’t shutting this offense down for a half.

Titty Meat 03-15-2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13471226)
That is a really bizarre way to look at it but ok.

Watkins is much more of an impact player than any of the DL that has been available.

I watched the D-Line not even lay a single finger on Brady in the playoffs

I watched the D-Line allow Bell to tap dance for 200 yards

I watched the D-Line let Henry run all over them

I'm tired of this soft ass defensive line. It's been a problem for this team for years now.

ToxSocks 03-15-2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13471191)
Yup spending 16 mil on a 4th offensive weapon and not addressing the D line is baffling.

Not when you look at the current state of the team. They've amassed a lot of talent on offense while the talent on defense aged. They're going to depend on that talent while that aging defense continues its youth movement.

For the next 2 seasons or so offense will have to carry this team. They're strengthening their strength to ensure that they can in fact lean on that offense.

O.city 03-15-2018 02:19 PM

Hit the dl in the draft I guess

Well see

RunKC 03-15-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13471263)
Lol remember when I said they’re gona do that RunKC laughed me off

You won’t be laughing when the Chiefs get their shit pushed in again by OL again.

raybec 4 03-15-2018 02:21 PM

I really think the pants shitting regarding the secondary is over the top. If they can generate any type of competent pass rush the secondary will be fine.

NJChiefsFan 03-15-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13471278)
I was just pointing it out because it seemed like you were implying that it was something new for him.

Also, it’s hard to judge when you have Frank Zombo starting. Nelson wasn’t even playing when Ford was healthy and the pass rush wasn’t nonexistent. All things considered I think he did alright. He graded out average under those conditions, which wasn’t nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be.

Anything over Zombo is pure profit, as is Berry over Sorenson. Still the secondary was so bad this year. The secondary was horrible and lost Peters. Pass rush should get better plus Berry and Fuller. Is that enough to get us, not just better, but to a level that is acceptable? I don't know.

I think we have to use our top draft picks on CB. I know Andy could just be giving coach speak but being ok with those 3 alone is dangerous imo.

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13471291)
You won’t be laughing when the Chiefs get their shit pushed in again by OL again.

At least their will be decelopment happening relying on snaps for young players. It could happen even if they signed Poe. So ya, you’re wrong again

ToxSocks 03-15-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13471175)
I dunno it's gonna depend on the team, he's very small and some teams don't like that.

5-11 192 isn't that small for a DB. He plays aggressive, with swag and he runs a sub 4.4 40?

Pshhhh....i'd be shocked if he made it out of the 1st.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13471291)
You won’t be laughing when the Chiefs get their shit pushed in again by OL again.

Ok, but MFer has a point. You’ve made it clear a few times that you don’t think a rookie DL can do anything this year. Why?

We’re not asking for a Pro Bowler here, or at least you shouldn’t expect that. We need serviceable players right now until better alternatives are available.

ToxSocks 03-15-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13471245)
The more I think about it the more I want Tyrann Mathieu............


Hear me out:

When you have to say "hear me out", you know it's a bad idea LMAO

RunKC 03-15-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13471295)
At least their will be decelopment happening relying on snaps for young players. It could happen even if they signed Poe. So ya, you’re wrong again

Yay! Young players getting their shit pushed in again like the last 2 seasons.

I’m sick of watching this shit be our downfall every damn season.

staylor26 03-15-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13471294)
Anything over Zombo is pure profit, as is Berry over Sorenson. Still the secondary was so bad this year. The secondary was horrible and lost Peters. Pass rush should get better plus Berry and Fuller. Is that enough to get us, not just better, but to a level that is acceptable? I don't know.

I think we have to use our top draft picks on CB. I know Andy could just be giving coach speak but being ok with those 3 alone is dangerous imo.

We’re likely going to use our 3 day 2 picks on defense, at least 2, and we will likely sign another FA (though I think it may be Logan). The defense is nowhere near finished.

We need to just sit back and watch Veach’s plan unfold.

NJChiefsFan 03-15-2018 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471279)
Again, the Tennessee Titans aren’t shutting this offense down for a half.

I agree. But it's not just about whether a wild card team can beat us. There are bigger fish and an elite offense is not enough. You can't just out gun everyone. We've watched that movie before.


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