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TLO 05-09-2013 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9672322)
I am very happy that the Royals are a half game back tonight. The next 7 days will be tough; we have the Yankees and Angels while they have the Indians and Astros.
How many times do they get to play the ****ing Astros?!?!

Discuss Thrower 05-09-2013 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9672498)
The odd thing was that while the first reliever was making his warmup tosses and after the pinch-hitter went to the on-deck circle, the Houston manager went out and talked to the umpires for a long time. I don't know what in the world he said to convince them to ignore the rules, but when the umpires allowed him to bring in another reliever, then the Angels manager came out and had a long argument.

So, the umpires have some kind of explanation, but I don't see what it could possibly be. Once you start making your warm-up tosses, you are in the game.
Insert long winded and overly worded Joe Torre statement that kinda sorta admits fault but does not offer any sort of definitive statement on preventing such a mishap in the future.

SPchief 05-09-2013 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9672498)
The odd thing was that while the first reliever was making his warmup tosses and after the pinch-hitter went to the on-deck circle, the Houston manager went out and talked to the umpires for a long time. I don't know what in the world he said to convince them to ignore the rules, but when the umpires allowed him to bring in another reliever, then the Angels manager came out and had a long argument.

So, the umpires have some kind of explanation, but I don't see what it could possibly be. Once you start making your warm-up tosses, you are in the game.
On Baseball tonight they had the Astros manager being interviewed and said he was in the rules committee last year and said that they changed the rule. It's not in the rulebook from what the guys on BT said so IDK what he was talking about. It'll be interesting to see how MLB handles this. The rule hasn't been changed, but the Astros manager said that it was last year.

AussieChiefsFan 05-10-2013 02:54 AM
How do the MLB playoffs work? Is it like the NFL where the winner of each division automatically gets a place, and the next two best seeds (in each conference) then get a spot too? Or is it a different way of deciding which teams make it to the playoffs?

Archie F. Swin 05-10-2013 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9672322)
I am very happy that the Royals are a half game back tonight. The next 7 days will be tough; we have the Yankees and Angels while they have the Indians and Astros.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/
the Angels are 12-22 (and broke)

Tytanium 05-10-2013 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9672650)
How do the MLB playoffs work? Is it like the NFL where the winner of each division automatically gets a place, and the next two best seeds (in each conference) then get a spot too? Or is it a different way of deciding which teams make it to the playoffs?
Best record from each of the six divisions, plus two of the best overall records from each league. The two wildcard teams from each league play a single game for the wildcard spot.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-10-2013 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9671494)
Disagree. The object of the game is to score runs. You load your lineup so that the guys who get on base hit in front of the guys with the highest .OPS

Your highest .OPS guys need to be at 3 and 4
your highest SLUGGING guys need to be 3-4-5, Your highest OBP guys need to be 1-2-3... hence your highest OBP + SLG guy (meaning typically your best hitter) is @ the 3 spot.

alnorth 05-10-2013 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tytanium (Post 9672727)
Best record from each of the six divisions, plus two of the best overall records from each league. The two wildcard teams from each league play a single game for the wildcard spot.
Yeah, you do not want to be a wild card team if you can possibly avoid it now. Winning the division means a lot. We won't have any more situations like a few years ago when the Yankees purposefully stopped trying to win the division to rest their pitchers because they had a wild card locked up.

alnorth 05-10-2013 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 9672567)
On Baseball tonight they had the Astros manager being interviewed and said he was in the rules committee last year and said that they changed the rule. It's not in the rulebook from what the guys on BT said so IDK what he was talking about. It'll be interesting to see how MLB handles this. The rule hasn't been changed, but the Astros manager said that it was last year.
Well, if the Houston manager snowed the ump with "they changed that rule", at least that makes sense. They were wrong, but at least they weren't insane. You'd think at least one umpire would have the current rules in a back pocket.

CaliforniaChief 05-10-2013 07:46 AM
Batting order doesn't mean much to me. I mean, if your guys are hitting, does it really matter where they hit? In general, I would think you'd want your best hitters at the top of the order moving down, so they get a maximum number of at bats. Other than that, who cares?

BigCatDaddy 05-10-2013 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9672789)
Batting order doesn't mean much to me. I mean, if your guys are hitting, does it really matter where they hit? In general, I would think you'd want your best hitters at the top of the order moving down, so they get a maximum number of at bats. Other than that, who cares?
I agree. The gaping holes in the lineup are more relevant than the order in which the guys hit.

Hootie 05-10-2013 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9672734)
your highest SLUGGING guys need to be 3-4-5, Your highest OBP guys need to be 1-2-3... hence your highest OBP + SLG guy (meaning typically your best hitter) is @ the 3 spot.
uhm, no shit

that's exactly what I said

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-10-2013 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9672814)
uhm, no shit

that's exactly what I said
No you didn't, you dumbed it down and stated overall OPS, there's a difference.

Hootie 05-10-2013 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9672789)
Batting order doesn't mean much to me. I mean, if your guys are hitting, does it really matter where they hit? In general, I would think you'd want your best hitters at the top of the order moving down, so they get a maximum number of at bats. Other than that, who cares?
I love alnorth. Great baseball poster.

I'm never going to agree with him that Barry Bonds should have been at leadoff rather than 3 or 4.

You put your .OPS guys at 3 and 4 because they drive in your .OBP guys. Period.

Not even Billy Beane hit Miguel Tejada at #1. There is a reason for that. Perhaps the math says something else, but you don't lead off with one of your best power hitters. In regards to the Royals...with all the extra base hits Gordon gets...you can't bat him at leadoff. He has to be at #3.

Hootie 05-10-2013 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9672816)
No you didn't, you dumbed it down and stated overall OPS, there's a difference.
I didn't dumb it down.

You don't bat Mark Reynonds at #3 because he has a high slugging %.

You bat Frank Thomas at #3 because he has a high slugging % AND he gets on base.


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