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Chiefspants 11-27-2022 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16630585)
like carl never gets fired in 2008? LMAO

I don't know, man, if an AFC Title inspires Marty to weather the storm in 1998 everything is different if Marty coaches through 2006 (or later, since he was forced out by the Chargers at that time).

ChiefsFanatic 11-27-2022 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16630586)
Spags always put players in position to fail?!?!?

Yeah, like putting a 4th round rookie in single coverage on a superstar receiver.

Or putting a 300 pound defensive lineman in pass coverage on a wide receiver that runs a 4.5.

Etc. Etc.

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ChiefsFanatic 11-27-2022 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16630594)
unbelievable.

How can Chris Jones succeed in pass coverage?

Spags knows that Jones cannot cover a wide receiver, so why make Jones cover a wide receiver?

Tonight, we played a QB in his first start, so it didn't matter.

I just cannot understand why people feel like Spags is this great defensive coordinator. I posted the comparison, and Sutton was better overall for the Chiefs.

The difference between Spags and Sutton is Spags has had Mahomes as his QB his entire Chiefs career.

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Megatron96 11-27-2022 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16630734)
How can Chris Jones succeed in pass coverage?

Spags knows that Jones cannot cover a wide receiver, so why make Jones cover a wide receiver?

Tonight, we played a QB in his first start, so it didn't matter.

I just cannot understand why people feel like Spags is this great defensive coordinator. I posted the comparison, and Sutton was better overall for the Chiefs.

The difference between Spags and Sutton is Spags has had Mahomes as his QB his entire Chiefs career.

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Pray tell, what was Sutton's record in the playoffs? How well did his defenses play situationally in the biggest moments? How many Sutton-led KC defenses beat Tom Brady?

Chris Meck 11-28-2022 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16630734)
How can Chris Jones succeed in pass coverage?

Spags knows that Jones cannot cover a wide receiver, so why make Jones cover a wide receiver?

Tonight, we played a QB in his first start, so it didn't matter.

I just cannot understand why people feel like Spags is this great defensive coordinator. I posted the comparison, and Sutton was better overall for the Chiefs.

The difference between Spags and Sutton is Spags has had Mahomes as his QB his entire Chiefs career.

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How to tell us you have no idea what a zone blitz is without saying you don't know what a zone blitz is.

RealSNR 11-28-2022 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16630734)
How can Chris Jones succeed in pass coverage?

Spags knows that Jones cannot cover a wide receiver, so why make Jones cover a wide receiver?

Tonight, we played a QB in his first start, so it didn't matter.

I just cannot understand why people feel like Spags is this great defensive coordinator. I posted the comparison, and Sutton was better overall for the Chiefs.

The difference between Spags and Sutton is Spags has had Mahomes as his QB his entire Chiefs career.

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We're not saying he's great. We're saying he's good enough.

Good enough when you have Patrick Mahomes wins you Super Bowls.

Understandez vous, cordon bleu?

CoMoChief 11-28-2022 07:28 AM

Spags is a subpar DC.

Never been a fan. He's rather predictable tbh...at least too much for my liking.

Just my personal opinion...This doesn't mean he's worse/better than Sutton.

IMO you're comparing 2 bowls of shit.

Team needs more (good) pass rush and CB depth.

Chris Meck 11-28-2022 08:00 AM

Jesus, some of you guys are miserable, runny shits.

htismaqe 11-28-2022 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16630991)
Jesus, some of you guys are miserable, runny shits.

Yep.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2022 09:34 AM

a harsh reality for spags haters this morning

#14 defense
#13 yards per play
#16 scoring

#11 net yards per pass attempt
#5 sacks
#3 pressures

#5 rushing
#14 rushing yards per attempt

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-28-2022 09:39 AM

Give Mahomes a middle of the pack defense and he will win you a Super Bowl.

I still believe that.

tredadda 11-28-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16630965)
We're not saying he's great. We're saying he's good enough.

Good enough when you have Patrick Mahomes wins you Super Bowls.

Understandez vous, cordon bleu?

Yup. He’s not Buddy Ryan or Belechick. But he’s also not Sutton or Greg Robinson either. This is a young defense that’s getting better every game. Pretty sure Clark is the “elder statesman” of the defense. They don’t have to be the 2000 Ravens. We have Mahomes. They just can’t be the 2018 Chiefs defense.

AdolfOliverBush 11-28-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16628234)
He was also infinitely better than Bono, and had Marty gone to him sooner, we probably win the Indy game.

He was an inch off of Lake Dawson's fingertips from saving the game.

As for Grbac, coaches did things different back then. Starters didn't lose their jobs to injury if they were cleared to play.

I think Belicheat was the first time I saw a starter flat out lose his job to injury, when he kept Brady as the starter and Drew Bledsoe was healthy.

Gannon was on a pretty hot streak while Grbac was out with the collarbone. Should've stuck with Gannon, and then if he faltered, you could put Grbac in there at that point.

I think if Gannon retained that starting job over Grbac, the Chiefs win the Denver game.

I hate Grbac with the searing intensity of a million white-hot suns. It was the Grbitch/Gannon debate that initially sucked me into the old KC Star BB.

To this day, anyone who wanted Grbroad to start over Gannon can go **** themselves.

scho63 11-28-2022 10:11 AM

I'll eat crow as our D has REALLY improved.

Even Clark was getting pressures yesterday, Frank ****ing Clark! That's special.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2022 10:14 AM

still have 3 games against the broncos and texans

we gonna be top 10!!!!


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