No. Go **** yourself. DJ Humphries is a ****ing waste of time. Plug in and develop Kingsley if that's how supposedly bad it is then, because you're going to be forced into doing it mid season anyway when Humphries inevitably goes out for the season again.

So overpay for Cam Robinson?

They may just throw numbers at it dude. Having 2 of Donovan Smith, DJ Humphries, Jedrick Willis in here to compete for fair deals would not be the end of the world.

The worst possible thing Veach could do is pass on BPA bc he reached for another project in the first rd based on need.

You're going to be heavily disappointed when the season starts because it's pretty obvious the Chiefs had a conversation and came to the conclusion this is a terrible year to try to fill LT.

That's neat, we're all going to be heavily disappointed at the end of the season when the LT situation once again costs us in the Playoffs. At least if the plan is that worthless brokedick.

What would you have done differently at our draft positions, within reason trades or free agency?

Sign Cam Robinson or play Kingsley Suamataia. I'd gladly do either of those than try band aiding once again with a brokedick in the twilight of his career.

What the **** do you expect them to do? Would it make you feel better if they throw 100 million dollars at it and it's still an issue?

And with hindsight I wouldn't have even bothered with the Hopkins trade since he ended up being about as useful as tits on a hog and used that capital instead on Robinson. At least then we'd know for sure whether he'd be worth keeping around, but regardless he's far more useful than Humphries since he can, you know, actually play.

sure would be nice if Jawaan could flip to LT.. there are some really good RT's in the draft

Cam Robinson isn't even good.

No. He's not. But he's adequate enough that the offense could function with him.

Cam Robinson is a playable LT. Same as Donovan Smith.

We didn’t have a playable LT on the roster last year

Mother****ers hate Jawaan Taylor and Robinson is worse than him..

In this case "playable" for Cam Robinson is probably gonna be a 20 million dollar AAV.

Who gives a **** about what the fans think if the offense can function with him?

Gladly, when the alternative is dealing with another year of grabass with poorly developing projects and brokedicks.

Yea, I don't think the Chiefs feel like that is a good financial investment.

No but they've backed themselves into a corner with failing to adequately address LT to this point, can't have a revolving door at the position every year. Allowing Mahomes to get beat to shit behind the most expensive OL in the NFL isn't a good investment either if he gets injured.

I said this about FAU, and used it as a reason why I am fine trading away two or three first round picks for a generational tackle.

FAU and CEH have shown me that picking at 30-32 isn't really a first round pick, so trade em away if it protects Mahomes for a decade plus.

Completely different years, the Chiefs are very very quickly approaching a reset period.

Yet he's light years better than what we currently have available to us today.

Htismaqe taught me that better than bad doesn't equal good, but for ****'s sake, we have to start somewhere. And this draft doesn't exactly look like anything is in reach for us to fix the problem going forward.

It's gonna be another bandaid year, the fact that they tagged Trey Smith is all you need to know what they think about the LT market. If they were willing to pay any of those guys Smith isn't tagged.

If you solve LT by packaging several picks to move up, then please do so.

The problem is that (in this draft especially) there is no sure thing. Package those picks and draft a guy who doesn’t turn out to be good? That’s devastating for the team.

I think most agree that there isn’t a Joe Thomas in this draft class. Someone will be good, but it isn’t super obvious this year who that is.

If you make that type of move up, you HAVE TO be right. That pick absolutely cannot miss.

The Chiefs are also a team that has certain marks they want met, like arm length and this year it appears all the dudes don't meet the Chiefs criteria.

It doesn't help that the Chiefs are light on picks this season, either.

Mecca is right....we're going to FA the LT spot this year and reassess in '26.

It’s impossible to “adequately address LT” when there are never any options in FA and history has shown that if you don’t have a top 16 pick you aren’t getting a shot.

Half of the starting LT’s were top 16 picks.

Outliers:

Bolles 20th
Darrisaw 23rd
Dawkins 2nd
Raimann 3rd
Mailata 7th
Armstead 3rd

The rest are not good. Good ****ing luck

So 6 outliers spanning over the last 12 drafts.

There just aren't that many people in the world that can play LT. Scarcity and such.

It's why losing OBJ wasn't ideal.

Hasn't OBJ been injured frequently since we moved on?

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Never for a second thought we would regret him not taking that insane contract. I think it's safe to say we would have been better off if he had.

This is exactly why I fully expect them to sign Cam Robinson.

I know everyone hates Cam Robinson, myself included. However, the question you need to ask yourself is simple; will the Chiefs be in any position in the near future to acquire a LT who is a better fit and has a better pedigree than Robinson? One who has actually played in this offense before and whom they have several years of film in said offense to judge how he can handle it?

The answer is quite simple, and it makes it all the more clear the Chiefs have no choice but to go overpay the guy. All logic points to it being the only conceivable answer.

It depends on contract structure for me. Taylor is gone next year along with his bloated contract, we can manage a larger than ideal contract at LT once he's gone. If the contract shows $20-22 million a year it's not the end of the world if it ends up being a lot of fluff where we can easily get out of it after 2-3 years, except this time they had better keep churning the position and find a (cheap) long term solution through the draft. I know it's hard and these players don't grow on trees, but we haven't developed anyone there in forever and I'd say it's about our time sooner than later.

Also, if they have to overpay at LT they had better at least have an internal option ready to go by 2026 at RT. I don't care if it's Morris or Suamataia or a 2025 draft pick, it needs to be someone. They simply can't afford to pay a premium at LT this offseason and then be forced to go and do the same thing next offseason at RT.

Seriously these Twatter guys need to **** off with this arm length shit. Did Andy Reid not trade for Jason Peters at one time? The athletic as **** guy that was 6'4" with only 33-1/8" arms and call him "the best LT in football" at the time? This, coming off having the epitome of LT builds in Tra Thomas.

Well, another way to look at that would be the only time Andy Reid has gone after a short armed OT was when the guy was already a proven All-Pro.

Yea he made an exception for a proven player...in the draft they don't do that.

I do thibk they'll make rare exceptions, but it's still the rule.

Do I think they'd take Simmons if he fell into their lap, and they feel good about the medicals? Absolutely, but it's still not a guarantee.

Is Cam Robinson somewhere between 2022 OBJ and 2023 Donovan Smith-caliber?

Because that’s basically what’s needed to win a Super Bowl.

Except they had a Combine formal with Conerly, who looks like a Jason Peters when he came out of college. Similar athleticism, movement skills, and size. At minimum, there is consideration. We're not talking in absolutes like the Twitter tards make it out to be.

I agree that Conerly Jr. might be one of those exceptions.

When I think of Conerly, I keep coming back to Rashawn Slater.

Ok. Which 3?

I don’t even want to venture a guess at joe thuney arm length but I assume their bottom 5 of all left tackles

Anything is a physical improvement

I think you guys are way too critical of our ability to draft a left tackle. Historically left tackles were less prepared than current day.

Also just like QB a lot of left tackles not panning out has to do with system.

Josh Conerly Type guy would be a massive improvement over what we had last year in his first season

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I don't know about you guys, but I just thought of an idea. How about Ronnie Stanley?

Man I can't believe I came up with that idea all by myself.

You sir: are the real deal. I like the way you think.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Kansas City Chiefs are engaged in trade discussions surrounding 4x Super Bowl champion Joe Thuney, per sources.<br><br>Chicago is one of the teams interested in the 2x All-Pro. <a href="https://t.co/N7YDehEFDM">pic.twitter.com/N7YDehEFDM</a></p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1897286859195310299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Saw that. Just wild. I don't know what to think. They obviously think they can get or have a guard on the roster already. Maybe they think Thuney has the most value.

Jettison Thuney, sign Smith, draft TBA, sign Robinson.... Jesus I just don't know.

Rapaport says its a done deal to the Bears.

I don't know how anyone could have watched the last 4-6 games of the Vikings' season and is advocating for Cam Robinson. Dude was a ****ing turnstile.

There just aren't good options in FA, and Stanley and Cam aren't worth what they'll get paid. (I don't even think Stanley will make it to market)

Best option left, especially now that Thuney isn't here anymore. Plugging in a rookie next to Kingsley at LG seems like a really bad idea.

2026 4th rounder? Are you serious Veach. So dumb.

For the money, I don't think he is. What Veach thinks is all that matters though.

They are either gonna make a trade out of nowhere, or it's gonna be a Humphrey/Donovan Smith/Wills at half the cost of Robinson.

All healthy, I'd rather have one of the latter guys and extra money to bring back or go get another FA.

I'm not even sure Cam is *better* than any of them.

Any of those three would be ****ing disgusting, especially now that the emergency backfill is out of the organization.

Andy Reid is going to get one of these lengthy, proven experienced vets.

Honestly I’d bet the deal is already shook on, whoever it is. We all know that’s what the combine is for.

Stupid post.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Ronnie Stanley talk?

Even if Baltimore lets him walk, we're not getting in a bidding war for an oft-injured 30 year old LT with a team that has $125M in cap space.

I wish Becton wasn't such a brokedick. If he could stay healthy, and with our coaching staff, I think he could play LT again and do it well.

After this Thuney trade, there's nobody on Earth that will convince me they don't already have a handshake deal with someone. You simply don't make this move otherwise.

Ok. With the Thuney trade a done deal, let's hammer this out.


- We (most likely) will not be drafting a left tackle who is expected to start for us this season in this draft.

- I think all signs point to Kingsley sliding in at LG, because Caliendo isn't a viable option there (not a viable option to be on this team, really). If not Kingsley, then who? Nourzad? CJ Hanson?

- Which means we need a vet at LT to cover a green LG. "Viable" free agent options
1) Donovan Smith
2) Ronnie Stanley
3) Cam Robinson
4) DJ Humphries
5) Tyron Smith
all of which have questions associated with them

- Blockbuster trade for a plug and play LT. This hasn't been Veach's M.O., but it's still an option.


All of this looks sort of bleak. Of those options listed, the best appears to be Cam Robinson or a trade if they could find someone willing to give up a stud LT (spoiler: they won't, especially not at what it would cost in both salary and compensation). I would assume they're holding out hope that DJ Humphries can show he's healed up and can regain his Pro Bowl form, or maybe that Donovan Smith really is 100% and ready to go. But outside of either of those two guys overcoming the odds, what does that leave us? A rookie LT or a vet with questions.

I think Cam is going to be the call, minus some wild wheeling and dealing we didn't see coming.

So sorry cooter, still hoping for Stanley. He had a 92% pass-block win rate last year & stayed healthy. He won’t be cheap, especially if the Ravens try to keep him. Seems like the best blind-side protection available right now. It’s worth a little more to keep 15 upright.

To be fair, I suppose they could give Kingsley another shot at LT if they feel like he has the chops and then draft a guard at 31, but are they going to protect Mahomes' left side with a rookie and second year player? I don't think Mahomes himself would be real keen on that idea.

Cam Robinson seems likely with Thuney being traded. I wanted Jaylon Moore, but that was with the assumption of Thuney at LG.

If Kingsley is LG, then they need experience next to him. Stanley is also possible.

If they sign a high dollar LT, then they won’t be drafting OL early unless someone really surprising falls. I still like Logan Brown if he falls past the 3rd as a developmental guy. Could well be a starter after Taylor is gone.

Stanley has only made it through one full season without injuries in his nine year career… no thanks.

People are forgetting that Nourzad did a good job against the Broncos starters too, can't discount him as the possible contingency plan at LG.

everyone knocking stanley for injuries im hoping you are also giving robinson the same grace. guy has managed two full seasons in an 8 year career. just sayin...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New story. Joe Thuney did everything the Chiefs asked of him — &amp; more.<br><br>What’s next for the Chiefs?<br><br>They plan to sign Trey Smith to an extension &amp; acquire a new left tackle, targeting Ronnie Stanley.<a href="https://t.co/1cKzfqMDbu">https://t.co/1cKzfqMDbu</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1897371653988048999?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I wonder if Nourzad is looked at more as an Allegretti role? Interior three sub.

Kingsley at LG, Humphries at LT. Set up with a 250/300 pound dude that's a good blocker in backfield. Draft best WR at 31. 3 WR and TE set. Pat doesn't have time to look for more receivers than those 4. Just a thought albeit a crazy one. :-)

Who cares? We lost one game in regular season with. Left guard at lt

We don’t need a left tackle for the regular season

We need him for the playoffs

Charles Cross is only 26 and really blossomed last year. Seattle released Tyler Lockett today and DK wants traded.

May be the best time to offer them a big deal to pry Cross out of Seattle.

Why on Earth would the Seahawks want to trade Cross? Makes absolutely zero sense for them, no matter how you spin it.

They will be one of the most cap-rich teams in 2026, and Cross's 5th-year option is only 17.5m. He's young and will be a stalwart on that line for a new quarterback for the next decade when they take one in the next year or two.

They don't need to be looking for a LT when they just got a great one, plus have to start looking for a QBotF.

Why would Seattle do that? Answer: They wouldn't.

Why would Seattle do that? Answer: We root for the Chiefs and want it to happen, so we convince ourselves it will happen.

Gotcha! Well in that case, GET IT DONE VARCH!!!

And in two years, if the LT spot hasn't been fixed FOREVER with the best LT ever, some people will talk about how the Chiefs should have traded for Cross like it was ever even more than a random fever dream.

We are having quite a few OL in for private visits.

Fresno State OL Mose Vavao will take an official 30 visit with the Chiefs. (Jackson Moore)
Washington State OL Esa Pole will take an official visit with the Chiefs. (Easton Butler)
Kansas OL Bryce Cabeldue has an official 30 visit scheduled with the Chiefs, among others. (Tony Pauline)
Oregon State OT Gerad Christian-Lichtenhan had a 30 visit with the Chiefs. (MLFootball)
BYU OT Caleb Etienne will take an official visit with the Chiefs. (Justin Melo)
N.C. State OT Anthony Belton has an official visit scheduled with the Chiefs. (Tom Downey)

https://nfltraderumors.co/2025-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/

That looks like a ton of down draft potentials.

Are we trying smokescreen that we'll go OT at 31 in hopes of manipulating a certain player or three to drop?

None of those guys are first rounders.

they're all more like third round.