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RunKC 08-22-2023 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17068436)
How confident are you that Karlaftis is an immediate 10+ sack guy and Uzi 6-8.

Because without those 15 sacks and more critically, without the pressures and the double-teams, this DL is in trouble.

Y'all really don't remember how many games were nip/tuck right until the 4th quarter last year? Again, we don't beat Cincy without him. We don't beat Philly without him.

How's that not 'a game changer' if we don't have him?

This isn't just some swinging dick linebacker. This was probably the 3rd most impactful defensive player in football last season. He was THAT ****ing good.

It's really REALLY weird to me that folks are going to hand-waive that. Because as 'only one piece of the puzzle' but playing at an insanely high level, this defense was still only okay most of the season in 2022. Take him out of that equation and 'only okay' may be a pleasant memory.

Take him out and you're back to trying to outscore teams and hoping they make a mistake or you win a coin toss. That didn't work in '18 and wouldn't have worked even in '19 had the AFC not been a bucket of dicks that year.

We need the D to complement the O and Jones is the most critical component we have to that.

So I'm not gonna pretend like he doesn't matter. He does - in a big way.

But he's evidently lost his mind.
Let's be honest here. His magnus opus was against backup OL in the Championship game. Every other game he hasn't registered a sack. He was invisible in the SB and yet we still won.

Take out his game against backups and ask yourself if that is worth $30 million a year with the strong chance he declines during the contract with us paying dead money like we are currently with Frank Clark?

It's not worth it. History has proven it. Get him back this year, make a run and then tag and trade in late February/early March before FA starts.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 04:36 PM
If you've got to break open the bank of Mahomes to pull that off, oh well. That's literally why the contract is constructed the way it is.

Direckshun 08-22-2023 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17027309)
he better ****ing sign or i will be piss offed!
Every time I see something like this I want to say "better do what he says -- he's a whale biologist."

But nobody will get the reference and it makes me sad.

Balto 08-22-2023 04:38 PM
Yes not having Jones downgrades the D a lot I still think Spags can and would make it work. Spags has many designed formations/stunts to help get Jones free. If Jones was gone why couldn’t Spags make someone else the focus of the D to get them free?

duncan_idaho 08-22-2023 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17068461)
If you've got to break open the bank of Mahomes to pull that off, oh well. That's literally why the contract is constructed the way it is.

I think it’s more likely they break that bank again - if they even can - to create transactional room for this season.

ghak99 08-22-2023 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17068461)
If you've got to break open the bank of Mahomes to pull that off, oh well. That's literally why the contract is constructed the way it is.
What if he's asking for a four year deal with no out?

Year 3 would most likely be a big gamble and year 4 a waste.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 04:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 17068469)
What if he's asking for a four year deal with no out?

Year 3 would most likely be a big gamble and year 4 a waste.
I'm talking about a 2024 tag and trade. Forgot to hit the quote button.

Bearcat 08-22-2023 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17068436)
How confident are you that Karlaftis is an immediate 10+ sack guy and Uzi 6-8.

Because without those 15 sacks and more critically, without the pressures and the double-teams, this DL is in trouble.

Y'all really don't remember how many games were nip/tuck right until the 4th quarter last year? Again, we don't beat Cincy without him. We don't beat Philly without him.

How's that not 'a game changer' if we don't have him?

This isn't just some swinging dick linebacker. This was probably the 3rd most impactful defensive player in football last season. He was THAT ****ing good.

It's really REALLY weird to me that folks are going to hand-waive that. Because as 'only one piece of the puzzle' but playing at an insanely high level, this defense was still only okay most of the season in 2022. Take him out of that equation and 'only okay' may be a pleasant memory.

Take him out and you're back to trying to outscore teams and hoping they make a mistake or you win a coin toss. That didn't work in '18 and wouldn't have worked even in '19 had the AFC not been a bucket of dicks that year.

We need the D to complement the O and Jones is the most critical component we have to that.

So I'm not gonna pretend like he doesn't matter. He does - in a big way.

But he's evidently lost his mind.
It actually did work in '18, without the offsides, but I get it.

I think this place makes people pretty numb to predicting bad things, probably so much so that we tend to ignore things that maybe we should think... uh, this might actually be bad.

And a large part for me is 1) number of scenarios, and 2) time.

And right now it's August and out of many different scenarios, CJ not playing for the Chiefs this year or even a large chunk of it seems like an outlier (I'm also assuming he's trolling on Twitter, so who knows, I could be wrong and maybe he is an idiot).

In the 'time' department, there's stuff like the Tyreek trade, regular season losses predicting playoff doom, etc. And with the Tyreek trade, we basically said the same thing.... they'd probably still be really good, but we may need him for that one Wasp play.

In the 'scenario' department, it's things like ending up playing the Titans in the AFCCG, not playing in Atlanta last postseason, not playing both the Bengals and Bills last postseason, etc.

Then we have stuff like 3 & 15 Wasp, :13, Mahomes being unable to walk against Jax, 1-leg Mahomes vs the Bengals.... shit that's staring you in the face with very little in terms of possible ways out, and they still somehow figure it out.

I'm personally pretty much dismissing the notion he won't be on the field this season until it plays out, and I'll start to question it if nothing happens soon after the final preseason game. Right now, meh.

And while I'm not personally dismissing his impact and the thought that yeah, maybe this time I really should be worried.... even if he got traded tomorrow and it's suddenly staring us in the face, it's still only August and a lot of shit could happen. And we obviously don't WANT to rely on maybe the Bills take a step back or maybe they luck out in several scenarios in the playoffs, etc; etc.... but, that's kind of where my mind goes.

Worry about what's staring you in the face and could destroy you within 13 seconds, that's the current precedent they've set.

ghak99 08-22-2023 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17068471)
I'm talking about a 2024 tag and trade. Forgot to hit the quote button.
I originally thought a tag and trade was a good idea. I'm just not sure what other teams will think he's worth at that age and cost though.

KC_Lee 08-22-2023 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17068463)
Every time I see something like this I want to say "better do what he says -- he's a whale biologist."

But nobody will get the reference and it makes me sad.
Futurama for the win!

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 04:49 PM
As long as he doesn't completely fall off we should be getting enough assets back to make it worth it. Even if he does end up holding out for the early season.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 17068476)
Futurama for the win!
How's the revival going?

PAChiefsGuy 08-22-2023 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17068411)
At this point, I'm not worried about it. Does Jones make the defense better, sure, but he's not the only piece of the puzzle. There is only one player that would be a game changer, if he went down and we all know who that is.
Agreed. Spags is no bum and I'm sure he is advising Veach on how much he feels Jones is worth to the D.

If Jones is really that greedy or simply doesn't want to be here then he can **** off

DCTwister 08-22-2023 05:16 PM
I’m sure this has been covered in depth, but can someone educate me on how many games Jones has to play in order to vest free agency? It was my understanding that the Chiefs hold some leverage because if he just held out he would not in fact be a free agent at the end of the year (not to mention not getting paid). What’s the deal on this?

DJ's left nut 08-22-2023 05:18 PM
I'd do what the Colts did.

Call his bluff. Tell him he has permission to seek a trade.

This is stupid. Put him to a real decision point.

Dante84 08-22-2023 05:21 PM
With Omenihu out for 6 weeks and Jones threatening until week 8, here's who we play:

1 Lions
2 Jaguars
3 Bears
4 Jets
5 Vikings
6 Broncos
7 Chargers
8 Broncos

I think we'll be fine. I'd expect a lot of blitzes to generate pressure. Let's hope the secondary continues balling out.

Dante84 08-22-2023 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17068504)
I'd do what the Colts did.

Call his bluff. Tell him he has permission to seek a trade.

This is stupid. Put him to a real decision point.
I mean, I'd have to think we'll hear something like that in the next couple days (Friday afternoon?) if he doesn't back down. That said, I don't think Veach plays that card unless he's really at his ropes' end, and it moves quickly like it did with Tyreek.

I just don't see why he is so aggressive/pissed, because that implies that he and the Chiefs are very far apart.

I can't imagine the delta is that substantial - $3-5MM? Is he really choosing to forfeit $10MM in fines to ruin his reputation to ultimately make an extra $2MM?

If his ego won't let him split the difference, then that's a him problem.

Direckshun 08-22-2023 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17068508)
With Omenihu out for 6 weeks and Jones threatening until week 8, here's who we play:

1 Lions
2 Jaguars
3 Bears
4 Jets
5 Vikings
6 Broncos
7 Chargers
8 Broncos

I think we'll be fine. I'd expect a lot of blitzes to generate pressure. Let's hope the secondary continues balling out.
Honestly, without Jones, we may be the underdog against the Jets.

jettio 08-22-2023 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17068159)
And after looking it up, if Jones misses games the Chiefs will receive salary cap relief for each of the games because he is not paid for them.
But is that rollover to 2024 cap?

I don't think it goes to current season cap.

KCJake 08-22-2023 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17068520)
Honestly, without Jones, we may be the underdog against the Jets.
Ohh dear. The Jets will most likely be 1-2. Chiefs 7 point favorites

Marcellus 08-22-2023 05:49 PM
Jones replied on Twitter he can afford to sit until
Week 8.

Well dummy then you can afford to take less on this contract too. Seems between camp and 7 games he would lose around $10MM.

He is just being stupid at this point.

Marcellus 08-22-2023 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17068520)
Honestly, without Jones, we may be the underdog against the Jets.
You haven’t seen the Jets OL if you think that.

Molitoth 08-22-2023 05:51 PM
**** Chris Jones. Dude is a selfish prick at this point.
He will never be even half the hero Mahomes is.


Oxymoron:

"I DEMAND MORE MONEY!!!"
"I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY To EAT MILLIONS IN FINES!"

What a douche.

Chieftain 08-22-2023 05:51 PM
Trade him to the Bears for a 1st and 2nd. Sign the best free agent DT available. Work with that.

smithandrew051 08-22-2023 05:52 PM
I really think this dude sucks and can get ****ed, unless we sign him

Tribal Warfare 08-22-2023 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17068531)
Jones replied on Twitter he can afford to sit until
Week 8.

Well dummy then you can afford to take less on this contract too. Seems between camp and 7 games he would lose around $10MM.

He is just being stupid at this point.
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17068435)
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For those catching up
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In58men 08-22-2023 05:56 PM
He’s playing games and trolling.

Kelce and Mahomes saved money to bring him back.

Skyy God 08-22-2023 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17068534)
**** Chris Jones. Dude is a selfish prick at this point.
He will never be even half the hero Mahomes is.


Oxymoron:

"I DEMAND MORE MONEY!!!"
"I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY To EAT MILLIONS IN FINES!"

What a douche.
I like how you guys are just now figuring this out.

Pitt Gorilla 08-22-2023 06:00 PM
I certainly don't think Chris is thinking about legacy with this move. It's a pretty textbook example of how to go from one of the most beloved defensive players in recent times to one of the most disliked.

Red Dawg 08-22-2023 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17068542)
He’s playing games and trolling.

Kelce and Mahomes saved money to bring him back.
The first contract. Jones got what he wanted. Now has nothing to do with now.

smithandrew051 08-22-2023 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17068547)
I certainly don't think Chris is thinking about legacy with this move. It's a pretty textbook example of how to go from one of the most beloved defensive players in recent times to one of the most disliked.
I really hope we get a happy ending (not that kind Deshaun) from some of our current defensive players. I don’t want to hate Nick Bolton, Sneed, or McDuffie some day.

It sure seems to happen a lot.

smithandrew051 08-22-2023 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17068549)
The first contract. Jones got what he wanted. Now has nothing to do with now.
Lifetime achievement contracts always end poorly.

You pay for what a guy will do, not for what he’s done.

If he’s not worth the money going forward, then move on.

BigRedChief 08-22-2023 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 17067757)
As soon as Clark was not signed... he started doing microaggressions like not coming to the ring ceremony. He's clearly pissed about it.
if he is making career decisions based on his buddies next contract, he’s not thinking right. His Buddy has some kind of stomach thing going on but in his own words drank a lot of alcohol causing him to miss time or not play at 100%. So the Chiefs saw his effort and said **** it, no more.

Quote:
Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17067979)
We said that weeks ago - since then he has lost millions and seems relaxed about it.

Nothing about this has gone according to plan so far - why would it suddenly change.

He’s on the brink of being ruled out of the first couple of games already


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This is getting ridiculous. I getting more pessimistic now.

gordonelloyd 08-22-2023 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17068520)
Honestly, without Jones, we may be the underdog against the Jets.

And if we come out of those first eight weeks with only one or two losses, we will still be OK.

The real issue is who gets the playoff bye by finishing first.

Both Cincinnati and Buffalo have much tougher divisions this year. I don’t think we do. Lots of hype for Denver, but they are not going to beat us. Every year there’s hope for the Chargers. I actually meant to say hype. But maybe hope it’s better. But they never deliver.

So overall, I think the schedule is our friend.

Skyy God 08-22-2023 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17068551)
I really hope we get a happy ending (not that kind Deshaun) from some of our current defensive players. I don’t want to hate Nick Bolton, Sneed, or McDuffie some day.

It sure seems to happen a lot.
Sneed is as good as gone next year. Connor is taking snaps as the nickel corner and profiles similarly.

Bolton is a maybe. Way too early to decide on McD.

smithandrew051 08-22-2023 06:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17068566)
Sneed is as good as gone next year. Connor is taking snaps as the nickel corner and profiles similarly.

Bolton is a maybe. Way too early to decide on McD.
I’m sure we won’t retain then, I just don’t want them to be insufferable pricks if/when that happens.

Chief Pagan 08-22-2023 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17068055)
Sure but the odds he actually sits out of real games is like 1%
If somebody is offering 100 to 1 betting odds for CJ sitting out at least one real game...,

That sounds like pretty juicy odds at this point.

TribalElder 08-22-2023 06:39 PM
I'm ready for the incoming tidal wave of defensive fatties once roster cuts start jumping off

Stryker 08-22-2023 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17068508)
With Omenihu out for 6 weeks and Jones threatening until week 8, here's who we play:

1 Lions
2 Jaguars
3 Bears
4 Jets
5 Vikings
6 Broncos
7 Chargers
8 Broncos

I think we'll be fine. I'd expect a lot of blitzes to generate pressure. Let's hope the secondary continues balling out.
This is my thought EXACTLY! With our offense and Patrick being protected VERY well, you have to rely on the secondary to step up to compensate - I really do believe this can still work. Move forward to "OUT SCORE' on a consistent basis and rely on the secondary to keep us in the game. We have the talent on both sides of the ball to keep us going.

Skyy God 08-22-2023 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17068576)
If somebody is offering 100 to 1 betting odds for CJ sitting out at least one real game...,

That sounds like pretty juicy odds at this point.
LTO your guy.

Stryker 08-22-2023 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17068534)
**** Chris Jones. Dude is a selfish prick at this point.
He will never be even half the hero Mahomes is.


Oxymoron:

"I DEMAND MORE MONEY!!!"
"I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY To EAT MILLIONS IN FINES!"

What a douche.
Oh, please DON'T forget I am a Chief for life, I will NEVER play for another team! LMFAO! Yes, yes you will!

philfree 08-22-2023 07:38 PM
If we can hold down the Lions O in week 1 and blow them out with Jones on his couch watching he will probably start having second thoughts on an 8 week holdout.

Megatron96 08-22-2023 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17068508)
With Omenihu out for 6 weeks and Jones threatening until week 8, here's who we play:

1 Lions
2 Jaguars
3 Bears
4 Jets
5 Vikings
6 Broncos
7 Chargers
8 Broncos

I think we'll be fine. I'd expect a lot of blitzes to generate pressure. Let's hope the secondary continues balling out.


Without a consistent pass-rush up the middle some of those teams become more problematic, imo. Not saying we'll lose those games, but we could drop a couple games in that stretch that we wouldn't with CJ available. Could effect our seeding before the half-way point.

Red Dawg 08-22-2023 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17068624)
If we can hold down the Lions O in week 1 and blow them out with Jones on his couch watching he will probably start having second thoughts on an 8 week holdout.
Blow outs are rare. Win without Jones is enough. We won the SB and he didn't do anything in that game.

ptlyon 08-22-2023 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17068624)
If we can hold down the Lions O in week 1 and blow them out with Jones on his couch watching he will probably start having second thoughts on an 8 week holdout.
Just put Mahomes in madden mode and keep scoring. Don't let off the gas.

Nice to see you around BTW.

BossChief 08-22-2023 07:48 PM
Week 8 is the last week before the trading deadline…

Clark/Veach/Andy probably have offered CJ95 what he wanted …to be the second highest paid DT on the league. So, 25-26m. Jones seemingly wants 30…

I wonder if Clark/Veach/Andy made him an offer that is now off the table and CJ95 is looking to get traded.

BossChief 08-22-2023 07:49 PM
Also, with these WRs, these RBs, this OL and Trav…we can probably go toe to toe with any team in football WITHOUT Jones…but I guess we’ll see.

I wonder if SF would take Jones and a 2 for Bosa.

mr. tegu 08-22-2023 07:54 PM
Jones is just adding to the Mahomes legend.

“Mahomes lost the best defensive player for half the season at the last minute and still kept the best record and went on to win another Super Bowl.”

TrebMaxx 08-22-2023 07:56 PM
Is CJ's agent the gal that did the bud light marketing awhile back?

Jamie 08-22-2023 07:58 PM
I still can't believe he'd be dumb enough to sit out regular season games. There's just no upside to it. I think this is all pointless brinksmanship, and Jones thinks he's putting pressure on the Chiefs to blink.

AussieChiefsFan 08-22-2023 08:09 PM
Last tweet liked by Chris.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you for the 2 SuperBowls. It was pure JOY.<br>I appreciate everything you have done for the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a>. <br>I wish you nothing but happiness wherever you go. We, the fans will always remember you. Just like DT.<br>Defenses WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. <br>Best of luck to you.</p>— Jackie Morgan (@JackieMorg15821) <a href="https://twitter.com/JackieMorg15821/status/1694114922735530401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 08-22-2023 08:12 PM
Oh Jackie.

Patrick Mahomes wins championships. Defense just needs to be good enough and not full of shit contracts.

O.city 08-22-2023 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17068636)
Also, with these WRs, these RBs, this OL and Trav…we can probably go toe to toe with any team in football WITHOUT Jones…but I guess we’ll see.

I wonder if SF would take Jones and a 2 for Bosa.
Lol no chance

Bosa wants 30 plus mil a year and is younger. Why would sf do that

Stewie 08-22-2023 08:44 PM
I think I voted too early.

ptlyon 08-22-2023 09:14 PM
Hey fellow Chiefs fans - the sun will come out tomorrow.

And be ****ing hot.

TEX 08-22-2023 09:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17068534)
**** Chris Jones. Dude is a selfish prick at this point.
He will never be even half the hero Mahomes is.


Oxymoron:

"I DEMAND MORE MONEY!!!"
"I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY To EAT MILLIONS IN FINES!"

What a douche.
Yep. I voted too early. The guy can go **** himself.

ptlyon 08-22-2023 09:18 PM
Holy shit just looked at the poll results. We have a shit load of lurkers here.

RealSNR 08-22-2023 09:24 PM
Honestly, the worst part of not having Jones for one or multiple games is giving more snaps to Nnadi :banghead:

BWillie 08-22-2023 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17060306)
Florio says the Chiefs have Jones in checkmate. Probably.

Chris Simms says CJ is vastly underpaid. Holy ****ing shit, what a terrible take.

https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/nfl/...ate-with-jones
Well, they do.

Megatron96 08-22-2023 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17068717)
Honestly, the worst part of not having Jones for one or multiple games is giving more snaps to Nnadi :banghead:


It's Danny Shelton time, I'm telling you guys, this is his year.

|Zach| 08-22-2023 09:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17068710)
Holy shit just looked at the poll results. We have a shit load of lurkers here.
It is a wild part of this place I always forget about.

Wallcrawler 08-22-2023 09:51 PM
If Jones sits out 8 weeks, mark my mother ****ing words, it will be the absolute dumbest thing a Chiefs player has done to cost themselves money, even worse than Orlando Brown's hilarious gaffe at turning down Veach's long term deal and betting on himself.

When he bitches up, and bails on his team for half the season and we are completely fine afterward, every last bit of ANY negotiating power this turd had gets flushed down the shitter right along with his massive contract hopes.

As long as 15 is upright and breathing, we can beat any team, regardless of whether or not Jones is being a bleeding ****.

Coogs 08-23-2023 05:31 AM
If Jones is serious about holding out 8 weeks, the Chiefs really need to let him explore trade options now. See if a team will give him what he wants. Get some draft capital for next year, whatever that may be. And free up 20 million for this season. There are other pieces out there that can plug and play for 1 year.

JPH83 08-23-2023 05:46 AM
It's pure cutting off your nose to spite your face. Just madness if he holds out. I think he's an important enough player that we lose some games we shouldn't if he's not there. Of those first 8 weeks the Jags and Chargers obviously look the toughest. But who knows what the Vikings, Jets and Lions look like. Pretty confident we still have plenty on offense to be doing well.

Man I'd love to know what he's asked for. If the sticking point really is the 4th year I think I'd give it to him. Jones is effectively worth 2 very good DTs imo. But honestly what an idiot, and man his agent sucks.

Molitoth 08-23-2023 05:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17068661)
Patrick Mahomes wins championships. Defense just needs to be good enough and not full of shit contracts.
this!

siberian khatru 08-23-2023 06:42 AM
:rolleyes:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you God!</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1694327897295667641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Simply Red 08-23-2023 06:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17068822)
:rolleyes:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you God!</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1694327897295667641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
God is mad at Chris Jones right now.

Graystoke 08-23-2023 06:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17068822)
:rolleyes:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you God!</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1694327897295667641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'm tired of this Twitter fool

warpaint* 08-23-2023 06:51 AM
Chris Jones seems to tweet things he doesn't really mean at times. Or flip flops a lot, however you want to look at it.

I won't put stock in the week 8 tweet until he's missing reg season games. Surely he knows he'll never make up the money lost if he does it, which along with the aforementioned is a big reason why I think that.

AussieChiefsFan 08-23-2023 06:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17068822)
:rolleyes:



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you God!</p>— Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1694327897295667641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Let it be over!

Bearcat 08-23-2023 06:54 AM
CP when CJ gave the perfectly logical explanation that he was sick during the ring ceremony: I don't believe him for a second!

CP when CJ responds to some rando on twitter with a completely illogical "Week 8":
<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/HUkOv6BNWc1HO" width="480" height="362" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe>

We certainly have a way of seeking out the worst possible outcome. LMAO

warpaint* 08-23-2023 06:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17068732)
If Jones sits out 8 weeks, mark my mother ****ing words, it will be the absolute dumbest thing a Chiefs player has done to cost themselves money, even worse than Orlando Brown's hilarious gaffe at turning down Veach's long term deal and betting on himself.

When he bitches up, and bails on his team for half the season and we are completely fine afterward, every last bit of ANY negotiating power this turd had gets flushed down the shitter right along with his massive contract hopes.

As long as 15 is upright and breathing, we can beat any team, regardless of whether or not Jones is being a bleeding ****.
It's going to hurt both the team & player if it plays out like that. IDK where the pass rush comes from - I'm skeptical about both young DEs. And of course Jones will never make up the $ & it will torch his legacy here at the very least in the short term. I think it takes the 1 seed off the table for the Chiefs & guarantees they're playing the wild card round.

Simply Red 08-23-2023 06:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17068840)
CP when CJ gave the perfectly logical explanation that he was sick during the ring ceremony: I don't believe him for a second!

CP when CJ responds to some rando on twitter with a completely illogical "Week 8":
<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/HUkOv6BNWc1HO" width="480" height="362" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe>

We certainly have a way of seeking out the worst possible outcome. LMAO
https://youtube.com/shorts/O8i2oT9Y2RY?feature=share

Balto 08-23-2023 07:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17068803)
It's pure cutting off your nose to spite your face. Just madness if he holds out. I think he's an important enough player that we lose some games we shouldn't if he's not there. Of those first 8 weeks the Jags and Chargers obviously look the toughest. But who knows what the Vikings, Jets and Lions look like. Pretty confident we still have plenty on offense to be doing well.

Man I'd love to know what he's asked for. If the sticking point really is the 4th year I think I'd give it to him. Jones is effectively worth 2 very good DTs imo. But honestly what an idiot, and man his agent sucks.
Go watch some video interviews of him with his dad…….not saying all ex-prison guys are like him but I’m starting to wonder if being so close to his dad is a big reason this is happening.

Gotta remember while he is a huge freak of nature Jones is still only 29 years old. Wish Veach could be negotiating with 39 or 49 year old Chris.

AdolfOliverBush 08-23-2023 07:18 AM
If he's dumb enough to sit out until week 8, which I can't imagine him doing, then deactivate him for the remainder of the season. See what that does for his market value next year.

KCrockaholic 08-23-2023 07:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17068861)
If he's dumb enough to sit out until week 8, which I can't imagine him doing, then deactivate him for the remainder of the season. See what that does for his market value next year.
I’d prefer a tag and trade next off season before the draft. If Chris wants to be dumb that’s fine, but at least let’s get a 1st round pick out of him on his way out. If he missed the entire season I’m not sure how drastically that would effect his trade value.

Sure-Oz 08-23-2023 07:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 17068838)
Let it be over!
Doesn't he tweet this all the time?

Lzen 08-23-2023 07:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17068822)
:rolleyes:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you God!</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1694327897295667641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Seems like an odd thing at which to roll your eyes.

KCUnited 08-23-2023 07:30 AM
Heard he once lived with a woman out of wedlock

Just negotiate with a guy like that

Molitoth 08-23-2023 07:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17068822)
:rolleyes:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you God!</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1694327897295667641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Hmmm, has a burning bush been telling to him to a greedy and selfish dumbass?


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