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bigjosh 04-29-2023 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16925322)
Toney -KC in 7 games
14 rec
171yds
2 tds

No JuJu(16 games) opens up for all receivers

78 rec
933 yrds


Dont forget hardmans 300 yards and mckinnons over 500 yards receiving


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FringeNC 04-29-2023 06:38 AM

The fact that Mahomes threw to this guy and really wanted him completely changed my view of the pick. This isn't Mahomes watching tape of a RB and thinking he'd be a great fit. This is Mahomes on the field throwing to a guy.

Then throw in nuggets like his explosive 10 and 20 yards splits (fast-twitch guy?) and the fact he played injured and still put up those numbers, and I'm really excited about the guy.

IA_Chiefs_fan 04-29-2023 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Champions (Post 16925306)
Reminds me of AJ Brown where you think he's a lot bigger than he is. Both only 6'1.

Wow. I never would have guessed Brown was only 6'1. He plays way bigger.

tredadda 04-29-2023 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16925229)
I like the player, and if Veach says that they believed a specific team wanted him, or that he had an idea someone was going to take him before 63, I will be fine with spending extra draft capital on him.

But, giving up draft capital for no reason isn't smart.

Again, for everyone, I want to be clear that I like Rashee Rice. I think he will be very good. But, the next receiver picked was Mims. No one else took a WR before we would have picked at 63. That's all I am saying.

But the thing is that there is no way of knowing if he gave up draft capital for no reason. Veach isn’t a GM that just throws picks out there for no reason. Sure Mims went next, but that doesn’t mean anything. Perhaps Rice was the guy Denver wanted and with him off the board they pivoted. We don’t know what other team’s draft boards look like. There might have been teams looking at snagging Rice, but with him off the board they went in a different direction. To me what isn’t smart is sitting back and hoping the guys you want fall to you and when they don’t you settle for a consolation prize.

IA_Chiefs_fan 04-29-2023 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16925360)
But the thing is that there is no way of knowing if he gave up draft capital for no reason. Veach isn’t a GM that just throws picks out there for no reason. Sure Mims went next, but that doesn’t mean anything. Perhaps Rice was the guy Denver wanted and with him off the board they pivoted. We don’t know what other team’s draft boards look like. There might have been teams looking at snagging Rice, but with him off the board they went in a different direction. To me what isn’t smart is sitting back and hoping the guys you want fall to you and when they don’t you settle for a consolation prize.

Yes, this. Especially when we probably don't have enough holes in our roster for all of our picks anyway.

tredadda 04-29-2023 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Champions (Post 16925306)
Reminds me of AJ Brown where you think he's a lot bigger than he is. Both only 6'1.

Good point. I really thought AJ was bigger than 6’1”.

chiefzilla1501 04-29-2023 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16925227)
He's more athletic than Bowe was but we really haven't had a guy who won contested balls since Bowe.

The part that made me a little nervous was that the scouting reports says he loses focus on the field at times. That sounds like bowe too.

But the contested catches thing is something I just really wanted for mahomes. A great way to improve pass protection for mahomes is to give him a bail out and we just didn’t have that. So much of jujus game was to find an open spot and catch and run. So even if he fills the juju role he also does so much more.

Also rice should hopefully be a beast in man coverage.

Now let’s get to work. Let’s expand that route tree and drill hands catching til his hands bleed

jd1020 04-29-2023 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16925394)
Also rice should hopefully be a beast in man coverage.

His production actually suffers dramatically in man coverage because he struggles to separate, especially when he's pressed which apparently stuck out as an issue during Senior Bowl 1 on 1's.

Chris Meck 04-29-2023 07:50 AM

Guys, I'm tellin' ya. You're going to love this kid.

old_geezer 04-29-2023 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16925360)
But the thing is that there is no way of knowing if he gave up draft capital for no reason. Veach isn’t a GM that just throws picks out there for no reason. Sure Mims went next, but that doesn’t mean anything. Perhaps Rice was the guy Denver wanted and with him off the board they pivoted. We don’t know what other team’s draft boards look like. There might have been teams looking at snagging Rice, but with him off the board they went in a different direction. To me what isn’t smart is sitting back and hoping the guys you want fall to you and when they don’t you settle for a consolation prize.

This has been my thinking also. Why is anybody mad we moved up a few spots to get the man we wanted? Last year we waited and ended up with the leftovers (Moore). This year Veach knew who he wanted and went up and got him (both 2nd and 3rd) without really giving up much. It doesn't matter if there was a player I wanted more; It was who the Chiefs wanted and that is what matters in the end.

TEX 04-29-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16925309)
Does he out produce Sky Moore's rookie season of 250 yards?

Let's hope. Skyy Moore is JAG.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-29-2023 08:09 AM

His measurables are almost identical to AJ Brown. They also talked about how tough of a player he is, just like Brown. That's probably a good comparison.

gblowfish 04-29-2023 08:11 AM

If Mahomie and Bruce Vilanch love this guy, I'm all in.

JPH83 04-29-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16925414)
Let's hope. Skyy Moore is JAG.

I like Moore more, i just prioritise separation over contested catch ability But we have a Moore, so perhaps the value is in getting a different type.

Chief Northman 04-29-2023 08:22 AM

Chiefs are obviously drafting to fill specific roles and this guy, as versatile as his snap share is, is probably your prototypical X. He’s got some unique explosive traits with abilities to high point and his short burst is exceptional, but I’m always leery about guys with inconsistent hands and limited route running experience. This kid puts the ball on the ground a lot as well. I think many are putting too much stock in this report about Mahomes throwing to him. I’m sure Patrick loved throwing to a number of these guys but some just were out of reach. Wait and see for me.


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