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ChiefoftheKeyboard 01-24-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14070676)
We'll see how it all plays out, but as of right now this is all shaping up into what Eagles fans were warning us about 6 years ago. I'm just not very confident about the decision making on the Defense by a guy that hired an OL coach as his coordinator once.

Those fans would’ve loved to have him back 2 years removed from that. Also had mcnabb leading that offense who wasn’t nearly as good as mahomes and still took them to a SB and had a winning playoff record with multiple conference championship appearances.

BryanBusby 01-24-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14070689)
Am I crazy for thinking Dee Ford could be Chris Avril esque for us?

Uh, yeah.

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14070691)
Those fans would’ve loved to have him back 2 years removed from that. Also had mcnabb leading that offense who wasn’t nearly as good and still took them to a SB and had a winning playoff record with multiple conference championship appearances.

No, they were glad he was gone and still are. Even through the Chip Kelly era. Don't think the regret those few years at all since it led them to now.

comochiefsfan 01-24-2019 07:53 PM

This guy has a Super Bowl ring, he's beaten Tom Brady, he's been a head coach.

And some people aren't sure if he's better than Bob Sutton?

ChiefoftheKeyboard 01-24-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14070692)
Uh, yeah.


No, they were glad he was gone and still are. Even through the Chip Kelly era. Don't think the regret those few years at all since it led them to now.

Lol that’s why they asked reid if they should hire his OC after chip?

BryanBusby 01-24-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14070695)
This guy has a Super Bowl ring, he's beaten Tom Brady, he's been a head coach.

And some people aren't sure if he's better than Bob Sutton?

Bob Sutton beat Brady, twice. Demoralizing him and the Patriots once, even. What's your point?

ChiefoftheKeyboard 01-24-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14070692)
Uh, yeah.


No, they were glad he was gone and still are. Even through the Chip Kelly era. Don't think the regret those few years at all since it led them to now.

Which eagles fans also trashed. Eagles fans boo’d their team one game after winning a SB. Why give those reeruns any credibility?

Chris Meck 01-24-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14070580)
His last 4 seasons as a DC:

Total Defense - 32nd, 32nd, 21st, 31st
Scoring Defense - 31st, 30th, 2nd, 27th
Rushing Defense YPG - 32nd, 24th, 3rd, 27th
Passing Defense YPG - 31st, 32nd, 23rd, 31st

well, in 2016 he had the #2 defense in the NFL so your stats are ****ed.

BryanBusby 01-24-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14070702)
Which eagles fans also trashed. Eagles fans boo’d their team one game after winning a SB. Why give those reeruns any credibility?

Well uh, you have to considering so far....they aren't wrong.

Hammock Parties 01-24-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14070699)
Bob Sutton beat Brady, twice. Demoralizing him and the Patriots once, even. What's your point?

That 2014 Pats team was trash at that point...their OL was horrible.

That was not a monster team like the one Spags shut down.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 01-24-2019 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14070699)
Bob Sutton beat Brady, twice. Demoralizing him and the Patriots once, even. What's your point?

Beating brady regular season and beating brady in a SB are two totally different things

ChiefoftheKeyboard 01-24-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14070705)
Well uh, you have to considering so far....they aren't wrong.

They were pissed about the Pederson hire! Literally said it was the safe move. Heard it called Andy reid-esk. Said it would get them nowhere. They also were pumped about chip. They’ve been wrong at almost every point lol.

suzzer99 01-24-2019 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14070706)
That 2014 Pats team was trash at that point...their OL was horrible.

That was not a monster team like the one Spags shut down.

One goddam sack on Brady on the last 2 drives probably has us in the Superbowl. Spags' D was the first to get to Brady that year.

chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 08:01 PM

So we've talked about Bountygate in 2012. Joe Vitt took over for Payton as HC for 1 years. Several suspended players on Defense. Very good excuse for 1 year of failure.

This is absolutely worth a read. The Giants were the #2 scoring Defense in 2016. In case you want to be reminded of how big a disaster Ben McAdoo was.
https://deadspin.com/report-giants-p...doo-1820276114
Think this maybe has something to do with the Giants downfall in 2017? McAdoo had players playing full practices on Saturdays. Suspends 2 CBs. Spagnuolo forced to suspend Eli Apple at the end of the year. Players walking out of practice. So yeah... is it possible that the Giants 2016 defense, in the hands of a good head coach, could have been successful in 2017 under Spagnuolo? Again... for now it's an excuse, but there's a chance that it's actually a fair explanation.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 01-24-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14070705)
Well uh, you have to considering so far....they aren't wrong.

What’s your infatuation with eagles fans anyways? You’ll have to let us know how their forum is lol

petegz28 01-24-2019 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14070676)
We'll see how it all plays out, but as of right now this is all shaping up into what Eagles fans were warning us about 6 years ago. I'm just not very confident about the decision making on the Defense by a guy that hired an OL coach as his coordinator once.

Correct me if I am wrong but the last 2 OC's Reid picked are now HC's, right? One of them with a ring as well.


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