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The Franchise 01-12-2018 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13356270)
I think Rosens probably the most likely guy to hit but not sure I'd want him starting right away. If they could somehow come out of it with Barkley too, I think that alone would get them some wins.
I don't think it would be smart to start ANY of the QBs from this class. That's why I think the best thing the Browns can do is draft a QB at #1, hope they get Barkley at #4 and trade a 2nd and another pick for Smith. You give Smith a damn good offensive line, a couple of good RBs and a decent enough defense to win some games. Smith can bring that winning culture back to the Browns while the rookie sits and learns for a year.

bigjosh 01-12-2018 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13356240)
I'm sure that'll get changed after this coming season. If they win 4 ****ing games it'll be considered a huge improvement.
I hope so. Hue is terrible. 9-39 as a head coach, 1-31 with the browns.

Mecca 01-12-2018 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13356272)
He doesnt want to play for the browns.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...g1qbnprje4myd8
Yea that's great and all but he may have to deal with it.

The Franchise 01-12-2018 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13356272)
He doesnt want to play for the browns.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...g1qbnprje4myd8
If I'm the Browns.....I ****ing ransom his ass to the Giants if they want him. Do like the Chargers did. I'd take their #2 overall pick and some more picks for the Giants to move up to #1 and take Rosen.

chiefzilla1501 01-12-2018 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13356277)
I don't think it would be smart to start ANY of the QBs from this class. That's why I think the best thing the Browns can do is draft a QB at #1, hope they get Barkley at #4 and trade a 2nd and another pick for Smith. You give Smith a damn good offensive line, a couple of good RBs and a decent enough defense to win some games. Smith can bring that winning culture back to the Browns while the rookie sits and learns for a year.
I totally agree. And with Browns fans already worked up about not just the failure but the absolute shit show that was Manziel, Weeden, and Brady Quinn... it would be absolutely stupid to throw a first round rookie into that fire unless you were 100% convinced he could be excellent right away. Best play is to draft a 1st round QB and bring in a stable veteran like Alex Smith to stabilize that franchise.

bigjosh 01-12-2018 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13356280)
Yea that's great and all but he may have to deal with it.
Team wont draft and keep a guy if he doesnt want to be there. See Elway and Eli...

Mecca 01-12-2018 01:07 PM
Also I don't see why Josh Allen is being propped up so much, he has the shitty completion rate which is extremely telling of NFL success.

JakeF 01-12-2018 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13356286)
I totally agree. And with Browns fans already worked up about not just the failure but the absolute shit show that was Manziel, Weeden, and Brady Quinn... it would be absolutely stupid to throw a first round rookie into that fire unless you were 100% convinced he could be excellent right away. Best play is to draft a 1st round QB and bring in a stable veteran like Alex Smith to stabilize that franchise.
Which is almost exactly what we did. It just took a few years to draft the 1st round QB.

cmh6476 01-12-2018 03:01 PM
damn, 6 picks in the top 65. 12 total. And 4 of the top 35. Is that right?

Mecca 01-12-2018 03:06 PM
Dorsey should be able to add some young impact guys a long with some good FA signings they might get close to 500.

BryanBusby 01-12-2018 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13356291)
Also I don't see why Josh Allen is being propped up so much, he has the shitty completion rate which is extremely telling of NFL success.
He's getting the Hack treatment.

Toolsy QB that had NFL caliber talent to crutch for him and has coasted off that reputation since.

People are ignoring the film to hand never ending excuses.

Sassy Squatch 01-12-2018 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13356532)
He's getting the Hack treatment.

Toolsy QB that had NFL caliber talent to crutch for him and has coasted off that reputation since.

People are ignoring the film to hand never ending excuses.
But he's tall, and has a cannon for an arm. He's athletic too. Nevermind the fact that he has a below 60% completion rate in a shit conference, that doesn't matter. Tall!!!!!

Mecca 01-12-2018 03:25 PM
I literally don't think in the last 30 years a guy drafted with an under 60% rate has been successful.

GloucesterChief 01-12-2018 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13356570)
But he's tall, and has a cannon for an arm. He's athletic too. Nevermind the fact that he has a below 60% completion rate in a shit conference, that doesn't matter. Tall!!!!!
Elway is ready to draft him.

threebag 01-12-2018 03:31 PM
If I am Dorsey I get on the horn to Andy and offer my 1 and 4 for Mahomes


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