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Pasta Little Brioni 07-18-2024 11:17 AM

Take away the turnovers and Allen is super elite!!!! The ****? No you can't just do that.

TEX 07-18-2024 11:25 AM

Ok, to be clear, is THIS the year that the Bills take the AFC for real???

ThaVirus 07-18-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17590336)
Over blown? Turnovers lose games in this league.


And TDs win them.

Who is scoring more TDs than Allen these days? Dude’s averaged like 40-45 TDs per season for the last few years.

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17590338)
Take away the turnovers and Allen is super elite!!!! The ****? No you can't just do that.


Who said that? He’s elite even with the turnovers.

Last year Mahomes had 27 TDs and 17 turnovers. Josh Allen had 44 TDs and 22 turnovers.

Sassy Squatch 07-18-2024 11:32 AM

"Allen knows when to dial that shit back, just like Mahomes."

Laughs in watching Allen yeet the ball two times into the end zone on 2nd and 3rd down when a 1st down is far more beneficial to the team before watching Bass shank a kick wide right to lose the game.

New World Order 07-18-2024 11:34 AM

Allen is good but too erratic to be on the same level with Mahomes

staylor26 07-18-2024 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17590364)
"Allen knows when to dial that shit back, just like Mahomes."

Laughs in watching Allen yeet the ball two times into the end zone on 2nd and 3rd down when a 1st down is far more beneficial to the team before watching Bass shank a kick wide right to lose the game.

Don't forget the boneheaded fumble that should've ended the game.

Sassy Squatch 07-18-2024 11:38 AM

Allen was incredible in the 13 second postseason. 9 throwing TDs in 2 games, I believe the tally was. Unfortunately that would put his cumulative tally for the other 8 games at a 12:4 TD to INT ratio. That's, uh, not very good for how supposedly elite he is.

Sassy Squatch 07-18-2024 11:39 AM

Just for comparisons sake, Mahomes has a ratio of 41:8 over his 18 playoff games.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-18-2024 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17590358)
And TDs win them.

Who is scoring more TDs than Allen these days? Dude’s averaged like 40-45 TDs per season for the last few years.




Who said that? He’s elite even with the turnovers.

Last year Mahomes had 27 TDs and 17 turnovers. Josh Allen had 44 TDs and 22 turnovers.

Turnover differential has proven to be the biggest decider if games for decades...PERIOD

RunKC 07-18-2024 11:56 AM

I think it says a lot that Joe Brady initiated a run first offense last year and it made their offense much better than Josh passing.

mr. tegu 07-18-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17590081)
Do we agree on Josh Allen? He really does look like this generations Brett Favre

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A pal & colleague called an anonymous NFL exec an “idiot” for stating an opinion on Josh Allen (that I think is correct), and then responded by stating his own opinion, which is belied by the actual historical record. <br> <a href="https://t.co/8v9jQii5ZP">pic.twitter.com/8v9jQii5ZP</a></p>— nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1813714813530566971?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


I wonder when Nick will stop just automatically giving second best QB to Burrow.

Sassy Squatch 07-18-2024 12:01 PM

Buffalo needs to hire Daboll back ASAP once the Giants get rid of him. The only time Allen truly rivaled Mahomes was under him.

mr. tegu 07-18-2024 12:10 PM

Regarding Allen’s playoff numbers as it compares to Mahomes specifically, because that’s what Bills fans do when they claim he’s as good (or better lol) than Mahomes in the playoffs, is that his stats also come with a bit of salt. 5 of his 10 playoff games have been in the wildcard round.

His only rating above 90 in the divisional round was the 13 second game. The rest are below it. Whereas all but one of his wildcard games are 90 or above, most being well above. He’s better than Burrow in all his rounds but he’s not even close to Mahomes to despite Bills fan narratives he only gets let down by his defense and he’s been great every time.

O.city 07-18-2024 12:14 PM

I think Allen gets dinged by having McDermott as a HC.

staylor26 07-18-2024 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17590443)
I think Allen gets dinged by having McDermott as a HC.

Offensively? Sure. Having a defensive minded HC alone is definitely a problem.

But McDermott gets the most out of that defense, and that absolutely helps.


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