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pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 11:33 AM

Houston is about to have a mega year. Book it.

SAUTO 03-10-2018 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459706)
Ah yes

Dunno that they can do Landon with his contract but I’d be interested

He's cheap this year.

Both need contracts so it probably wouldn't work

Mother****erJones 03-10-2018 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13459738)
Houston is about to have a mega year. Book it.

9.5 sacks with basically no help across from him.

O.city 03-10-2018 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13459738)
Houston is about to have a mega year. Book it.

They need to put better players around him and on the d first

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13459741)
9.5 sacks with basically no help across from him.

And dropping in coverage 30% of the time. That won’t happen again, I don’t believe.

I read a story from Terez yesterday that said you can expect a more aggressive scheme for sure this season.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459742)
They need to put better players around him and on the d first

Mo Wilkerson would be a great start. A front 4 of Houston/Jones/Mo/Ford is pretty salty.

Simply Red 03-10-2018 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459724)
There’s just no way they cut Houston man. That’s their 2 best defensive players gone

yeah I think they'll keep JH

Chief Northman 03-10-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13459762)
yeah I think they'll keep JH

Yes. It makes no financial sense to lose Houston via release or trade right now.

If Houston has a lacklustre campaign however, the Chiefs options to get out of the contract become far more favorable in 2019.

Simply Red 03-10-2018 11:48 AM

yeah

RunKC 03-10-2018 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13459748)
And dropping in coverage 30% of the time. That won’t happen again, I don’t believe.

I read a story from Terez yesterday that said you can expect a more aggressive scheme for sure this season.

Hard to be aggressive when QB’s just lob the ball in the air on a blitz and our corners get punked.

Happened a lot to Gaines and Mitchell. Remember the doink game in Denver in 2016 and the awful game in Oakland last year?

Perfect examples of that

O.city 03-10-2018 11:57 AM

Corey Coleman is available

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13459780)
Hard to be aggressive when QB’s just lob the ball in the air on a blitz and our corners get punked.

Happened a lot to Gaines and Mitchell. Remember the doink game in Denver in 2016 and the awful game in Oakland last year?

Perfect examples of that

This is why I say that the secondary as a whole will be better this year, even without Peters.

Berry is a huge boost, and we’re probably going to add another safety and corner to go along with Fuller and Amerson. I think the unit will play more as a ‘fist’ now, and EB is the glue.

Coogs 03-10-2018 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459734)
I mean sure they can do that, but they e also got to put a team in the field in 2018

.

Okay. Let's say they keep Ford. He was at his best where Houston plays. K-pass on the other side. Draft one, or two edge rushers.

With the 53 million you could add the 5 or 6 players of your choice. WR and LG plus 4 starting defenders. Does that make us better or not. :shrug:

staylor26 03-10-2018 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459789)
Corey Coleman is available

I’d much rather trade a pick for him than spend big money on a FA.

O.city 03-10-2018 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 13459796)
.

Okay. Let's say they keep Ford. He was at his best where Houston plays. K-pass on the other side. Draft one, or two edge rushers.

With the 53 million you could add the 5 or 6 players of your choice. WR and LG plus 4 starting defenders. Does that make us better or not. :shrug:

This edge rusher class isn’t very good though mid to late.

I also don’t think you can add that many players in free agency this year for that cost. Possibly though.

I think your best bet is putting better players around Houston so he plays to his full potential

The Franchise 03-10-2018 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456493)
Corey Coleman maybe?

Boom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459789)
Corey Coleman is available


Chargem 03-10-2018 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13459794)
This is why I say that the secondary as a whole will be better this year, even without Peters.

Berry is a huge boost, and we’re probably going to add another safety and corner to go along with Fuller and Amerson. I think the unit will play more as a ‘fist’ now, and EB is the glue.

I really agree with this. The secondary as a whole in 2017: Peters, Revis/Mitchell, Nelson, Parker, Sorenson.

In 2018: Fuller, Amerson, Nelson, Berry, high draft pick (hopefully). Even losing Peters, the secondary is overall improved even if another corner doesn't get added.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 13459796)
.

Okay. Let's say they keep Ford. He was at his best where Houston plays. K-pass on the other side. Draft one, or two edge rushers.

With the 53 million you could add the 5 or 6 players of your choice. WR and LG plus 4 starting defenders. Does that make us better or not. :shrug:

You're being really confusing with numbers. It was $39 mil before but that included Ford being cut, keeping Ford would be $30mil, not $53 mil?

Plus I don't like the current draft for edge rushers.

RunKC 03-10-2018 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13459798)
I’d much rather trade a pick for him than spend big money on a FA.

Keke Coutee :D

Chargem 03-10-2018 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13459819)
Keke Coutee :D

I'm down for Keke if he's available in the 4th round.

O.city 03-10-2018 12:14 PM

They need to load up on guys that can rush the passer on the dl

Chargem 03-10-2018 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459822)
They need to load up on guys that can rush the passer on the dl

In FA or the draft? Not sure who in FA fits the bill. Would rather look at a dependable run stuffing NT, keep Bailey and draft two linemen with passrush potential

O.city 03-10-2018 12:21 PM

I’m not spending money on a Nt that’s gonna play 1 or 2 down

Modern dl has to be versatile and aggressive

Look at the eagles

RealSNR 03-10-2018 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459832)
I’m not spending money on a Nt that’s gonna play 1 or 2 down

Modern dl has to be versatile and aggressive

Look at the eagles

Or, modern DL has to be Fletcher Cox.

Finding a player like that is easier said than done.

O.city 03-10-2018 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13459834)
Or, modern DL has to be Fletcher Cox.

Finding a player like that is easier said than done.

Wilkerson

Or Richardson

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2018 12:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Dorsey met with Danny Shelton’s agent in Indianapolis; his departure not a surprise here. Don’t be shocked if Corey Coleman’s name surfaces in trade talks either. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a></p>&mdash; Daryl Ruiter (@RuiterWrongFAN) <a href="https://twitter.com/RuiterWrongFAN/status/972518346376859649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jamie 03-10-2018 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459832)
I’m not spending money on a Nt that’s gonna play 1 or 2 down

Modern dl has to be versatile and aggressive

Look at the eagles

I think this is where the league is going. QBs get rid of the ball so quickly now getting pressure up the middle will become more valuable than edge rush.

staylor26 03-10-2018 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13459816)
Boom.

Props on a good call

Coogs 03-10-2018 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 13459817)
I really agree with this. The secondary as a whole in 2017: Peters, Revis/Mitchell, Nelson, Parker, Sorenson.

In 2018: Fuller, Amerson, Nelson, Berry, high draft pick (hopefully). Even losing Peters, the secondary is overall improved even if another corner doesn't get added.



You're being really confusing with numbers. It was $39 mil before but that included Ford being cut, keeping Ford would be $30mil, not $53 mil?

Plus I don't like the current draft for edge rushers.

Not that confusing. We had 19. We could add 39. Keep Ford, and that is 31. So 50 million not 53. My bad there.

And here is maybe an edge rusher for a day 2 pick.

http://www.chiefs.com/news/article-2...0-3b58ffbd76de

The Franchise 03-10-2018 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13459854)
Props on a good call

Hold your props. Nothings happened yet.

staylor26 03-10-2018 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13459893)
Hold your props. Nothings happened yet.

Oh I highly doubt we get him, but good call on him possibly
being available.

chiefscafan 03-10-2018 01:23 PM

I like the Coleman idea

Chargem 03-10-2018 01:30 PM

Wonder what Da'Quan Jones price tag would be.

Chief Northman 03-10-2018 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 13459909)
I like the Coleman idea

Hands like feet...

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 01:32 PM

I wouldn’t hate Coleman being traded here. Feel like he and Coutee are very similar.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2018 02:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pat Leonard of the NY Dailynews just stated on ESPN Radio that he doesn’t believe Odell Beckham Jr is a member of the Giants on Week 1 of the 2018 Season.</p>&mdash; Big Blue United (@BigBlueUnited) <a href="https://twitter.com/BigBlueUnited/status/972536982952972288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 03-10-2018 02:55 PM

Where’s O.City? LMAO

Mother****erJones 03-10-2018 02:59 PM

Oh shit! The ****ing dentist is right ROFL damn o city

O.city 03-10-2018 03:01 PM

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Bewbies 03-10-2018 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13459978)
Where’s O.City? LMAO

Who knew huffing your own laughing gas at work could produce immaculate future predictions? LMAO

Bewbies 03-10-2018 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 13459975)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pat Leonard of the NY Dailynews just stated on ESPN Radio that he doesn’t believe Odell Beckham Jr is a member of the Giants on Week 1 of the 2018 Season.</p>&mdash; Big Blue United (@BigBlueUnited) <a href="https://twitter.com/BigBlueUnited/status/972536982952972288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If they dump Odell they have to go QB at 2.

O.city 03-10-2018 03:05 PM

I bet the deal is already done

Mother****erJones 03-10-2018 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13459987)
If they dump Odell they have to go QB at 2.

Just rip that team up. That’s what I’d do.

Mother****erJones 03-10-2018 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13459986)
Who knew huffing your own laughing gas at work could produce immaculate future predictions? LMAO

ROFL

Easy 6 03-10-2018 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459989)
I bet the deal is already done

You need to stop getting my dick so hard over nothing, this prediction of yours is like the ultimate stripper.... getting me all worked up, only to go home alone with Mr Hand

Titty Meat 03-10-2018 03:08 PM

Beckham Hill Kelce Hunt? Yes lawd

The Franchise 03-10-2018 03:09 PM

Are the Browns trading for him?

O.city 03-10-2018 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13459995)
You need to stop getting my dick so hard over nothing, this prediction of yours is like the ultimate stripper.... getting me all worked up, only to go home alone with Mr Hand

They’re gonna sign someone at wr

Just not sure who

In58men 03-10-2018 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13459997)
Beckham Hill Kelce Hunt? Yes lawd

Browns or Patriots

We get guys like Brandon Marshall. Once a big name, but now is garbage. I can hear Chief fans gloat now. Hunt, Kelce, Hill and Marshall!!!!! Great job Veach!!!!!

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2018 03:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One thing I do know is I had a ball in Seattle! ✊��</p>&mdash; Paul Richardson Jr (@prichiejr) <a href="https://twitter.com/prichiejr/status/972572878351753216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mother****erJones 03-10-2018 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13459997)
Beckham Hill Kelce Hunt? Yes lawd

0% chance that happens. They’re not trading for a WR they’re going to have to pay $20 mil per for

Mother****erJones 03-10-2018 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13460007)
Browns or Patriots

We get guys like Brandon Marshall. Once a big name, but now is garbage. I can hear Chief fans gloat now. Hunt, Kelce, Hill and Marshall!!!!! Great job Veach!!!!!

Go take a nap

BossChief 03-10-2018 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13459822)
They need to load up on guys that can rush the passer on the dl

Suh
Richardson
Wilkerson

If Suh doesn’t get cut, I wouldn’t be shocked to see KC kick the tires on Richardson and Wilkerson (are kicking them right now)

The Franchise 03-10-2018 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 13460008)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One thing I do know is I had a ball in Seattle! ✊��</p>&mdash; Paul Richardson Jr (@prichiejr) <a href="https://twitter.com/prichiejr/status/972572878351753216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’d love to have him here.

Titty Meat 03-10-2018 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13460012)
0% chance that happens. They’re not trading for a WR they’re going to have to pay $20 mil per for

They won't need to pay for Mahomes for awhile and can walk from Houston's contract next year. It very easily could be done.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 03:19 PM

It may not make a ton of sense but I’d love to see OBJ here just to see how teams try to defend them. LMAO

Mother****erJones 03-10-2018 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13460018)
They won't need to pay for Mahomes for awhile and can walk from Houston's contract next year. It very easily could be done.

Never say never I guess but I’d be absolutely stunned

O.city 03-10-2018 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13460015)
Suh
Richardson
Wilkerson

If Suh doesn’t get cut, I wouldn’t be shocked to see KC kick the tires on Richardson and Wilkerson (are kicking them right now)

I’d take 1 of those

Mother****erJones 03-10-2018 03:21 PM

Yeah, you’re not defending Hunt, Hill, Kelce and OBJ

In58men 03-10-2018 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13460013)
Go take a nap

Good for a 1 year contract, he might have some left in the tank. Low risk high reward.

/CP

Titty Meat 03-10-2018 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13460020)
Never say never I guess but I’d be absolutely stunned

Me too

TambaBerry 03-10-2018 03:21 PM

We could absolutely afford him

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 03:21 PM

I’m just gonna say it—an offensive personnel grouping of Mahomes, Hill, OBJ, Kelce, and Hunt is the most physically gifted unit to ever play in the NFL. It just would be.

Whether it meshes or not, I don’t know.

RunKC 03-10-2018 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13460027)
I’m just gonna say it—an offensive personnel grouping of Mahomes, Hill, OBJ, Kelce, and Hunt is the most physically gifted unit to ever play in the NFL. It just would be.

Whether it meshes or not, I don’t know.

So basically we’d be the 2003 Chiefs again who don’t win shit bc defense sucks ass

In58men 03-10-2018 03:33 PM

Niners could go after him.

Titty Meat 03-10-2018 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13460034)
So basically we’d be the 2003 Chiefs again who don’t win shit bc defense sucks ass

That 2003 defense had nobody nearly as talented as Berry, Houston or Jones.

In58men 03-10-2018 03:35 PM

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pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13460034)
So basically we’d be the 2003 Chiefs again who don’t win shit bc defense sucks ass

Hey, it’s not going to happen anyways. We just got rid of a locker room distraction, we won’t get another.

I’m just saying that if we did, the offense would be borderline unstoppable.

O.city 03-10-2018 03:36 PM

Chiefs gonna retool the d in the draft anyway

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 03:39 PM

I like Richardson. Saw him make a lot of great catches down field for Russelll in Seattle.

The Franchise 03-10-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13460040)

If we can’t get Robinson....then I want Richardson.

RunKC 03-10-2018 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13460042)
Chiefs gonna retool the d in the draft anyway

You wanna take advantage of Mahomes rookie contract yes? We need to spend some money on defense along with the draft.

Easy 6 03-10-2018 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13460027)
I’m just gonna say it—an offensive personnel grouping of Mahomes, Hill, OBJ, Kelce, and Hunt is the most physically gifted unit to ever play in the NFL. It just would be.

Whether it meshes or not, I don’t know.

It'd be a tough sell for Reek to only get a single year as the #1, then get pushed aside for OBJ

O.city 03-10-2018 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13460048)
You wanna take advantage of Mahomes rookie contract yes? We need to spend some money on defense along with the draft.

They’ve got Wilkerson in today, I’m guessing they will.

There’s already a good bit of money on the d as well

BossChief 03-10-2018 03:44 PM

No way were trading for Odell, O.

RunKC 03-10-2018 03:45 PM

I don’t want to spend big on a receiver. I want to spend money on defense, primarily.

You need a strong defense to win a championship. It’s absolutely vital.

O.city 03-10-2018 03:46 PM

They want speed and aggression on the d. Tough to get that from old dudes

O.city 03-10-2018 03:47 PM

It’s gonna be Odell or Watkins at wr. Pretty sure it’ll be Watkins

They seem to wanna give pat as many weapons as possible

Chief Northman 03-10-2018 03:49 PM

If Chiefs add a FA wideout I want one of:

Robinson
Watkins
Richardson

In that order.

If Suh somehow gets released, I would hope the Chiefs would go all-in on him. He would single-handedly improve the defense from last year’s no pressure, soft-tackling shitshow.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13460058)
I don’t want to spend big on a receiver. I want to spend money on defense, primarily.

You need a strong defense to win a championship. It’s absolutely vital.

That’s great and all in theory but who are you going to spend it on? Not exactly any AJ Bouye’s or Demarcus Ware’s on the market.

Easy 6 03-10-2018 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13460086)
That’s great and all in theory but who are you going to spend it on? Not exactly any AJ Bouye’s or Demarcus Ware’s on the market.

Its a fair question, the free agent market kinda sucks ass this year... though there are certainly a solid handful of corners who could really help us

And at least as far as we know, Veach hasnt moved on any of them... gotta wonder what his calculus is there, drafting one is fine but no sure bet

I've come around on grabbing a high profile receiver to augment our largely unproven corp though, have come to see the wisdom of your thinking


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