Shooting the breeze.

This! How many TD's has Hill scored already in this short camp? It seems like nobody can cover this guy at all- every tweet is about Hill scoring. Alex and PH have both hooked up on long passes for scores. :drool:

This team is going to be very hard to beat this year. Very few weaknesses.

Maybe 2 first rounders.

ROFL

My comments directly pertained to training camp and how a few specific players are standing out. Then I was called a dildo and ****ing stupid. ROFL

I apologize for derailing this train wreck of a thread.

Logan was seen riding up a cart to the locker room early in Saturday’s practice
There were a handful of injury updates coming out of Kansas City Chiefs training camp Saturday morning.

Here’s what we know:

• DL Bennie Logan left practice early with a sore knee.

It’s worth noting that in his four-year career (Philadelphia Eagles, 2013-16), Logan has played in 59 of a possible 64 games. He signed with the Chiefs this offseason, and has been impressive at camp thus far.

• Tight end Travis Kelce, who missed practice Friday with swelling in his knee, was absent again on Saturday. Chiefs coach Andy Reid said “he’ll be fine” when speaking to the media about Kelce on Friday.

• RB Charcandrick West (ankle) was back on the field Saturday morning after missing some time recently, although he was limited at practice.

• LB Reshard Cliett has a finger injury and did not practice.

• DL David King left practice early with an ankle injury.

• CB Terrance Mitchell (hamstring), LB Josh Mauga (hip), and CB Steven Nelson (groin spasms) also missed practice again on Saturday.

• Rookie DB Leon McQuay (neck) left practice early on Saturday.

• OL Parker Ehinger, DL Chris Jones, LB Dadi Nicolas and LB Tamba Hali remain on the PUP list.

• The Chiefs newest DL Roy Miller, who missed a chunk of last season after rupturing his Achilles tendon, spent a good portion of practice working out off to the side with trainers.

All minor bumps and bruises so far. Still perplexed why Hali is not practicing after stating he was ready to go?

See and Bray has not stood out with this hooking up with Tyreek. How in the world should he continue register as #2 quarterback. Make Patrick #2 and give him more reps in practice.

Hali is on the PUP and he said it's a precautionary thing

You derail every thread with yours.


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I agree- PH needs all the reps he can get. It has only taken a few short days in camp for PH to prove he should be #2. Has Bray done anything yet? Awful quiet on the Bray front.

Very bad timing after his Twitter outburst. At least Ford is getting extra reps and is looking dominant from all the reports. The Ford / Houston combo should be one of the best in the NFL this year. Then you have Hali coming in fresh. Going to be a fun year!!

He's probably fine. Coaches just don't want to risk an unnecessary injury.

Glad to hear Mitchell only had a hamstring. Last I heard he was carted off the field. Hopefully it's nothing major but a hamstring has the potential to nag all season long.

Also, what's up with Dadi? Is he still recovering?

Also, Hunt seems to be impressing at HB...:)

Yep, I am sure you are right. If it was game day though, Hali would be out there.

I liked the way Andy handled Hali's immature outburst. He is a great coach and this thing could have been a distraction. Instead, Houston, Ford and Berry are all looking great and have shrugged off the tweets.

Surprised at how fast Logan has fit in with the other guys. He has stepped in for Poe without a noticeable drop-off until getting banged up today. Looks like a good signing so far.

In a 1 on 1, it is impossible. Because he is faster than any other person on the field, he can only be covered for a portion of his route. That is improved for the defense if there is deep help. Which does not apply in 1 on 1 & the q.b. can wait out the covered interval.

Which is where the rush comes in.

I want to hear when/if/who a db makes a play in 1 on 1. Hill should win every time.

Looks like I was right. We should of signed Ellington.


Kimberley A. Martin
Kimberley A. Martin @KMart_BN
Source: #Jets, #Bills, #Texans and #Chiefs all put in a claim for WR Bruce Ellington
9:08 AM · Aug 5, 2017

Chesson is making the team. Guaranteed.

Patrick Mahomes does well under adverse weather conditions ---> http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city...her-conditions

It's either Chesson or Kemp. One will go to the PS

The Chiefs moved up to draft Chesson. If he doesn't make the roster, John Dorsey deserves to be fired.

Wait, what?

Why is it either Chesson or Kemp? DAT and Wilson should go to the scrap heap.

Good cuz I was hoping he wasn't just drafted for his name I thought Clark may have nudged that one :D

Wilson I already have not making the team. DAT is there because he's our kick returner.

Why would Albert Wilson not make the team? He was was beasting yesterday and made some nice catches and plays. He lost a shoe going in for a touchdown against Peters.

Chesson was a hell of a kick returner in college. DAT hasnt ever done a damn thing for this team.

From the reports, it sounds like Peters has done the best job, but was still burned badly several times. I like this matchup- it can only make them both better.

Peters has 5 picks so far

good. encouraging. was worried about those 9 and 1/4" hands.

This is the same team as last year for me. A roster in the discussion for the best roster in the league but an average and limited QB who will probably prove too big a hurdle when come playoff time.

That is not a knock on Smith whom I think is a good QB but is it what it is.

Mahomes was really excellent today. The back shoulder throw was a thing of ****ing beauty.

Meanwhile, ASS11 was throwing picks to DBs who will be in the arena league in a month...

http://i.imgur.com/QHRliIZ.gif

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Anybody see Terrance Mitchell today? Steven Nelson? Kelce?

I was at practice today, and I don't know how many original comments I have to add, but here are my thoughts.

1. I think the Chiefs really screwed over their fans who traveled with their children to visit them today. They practiced on the far field away from the bulk of the stands for 80% of practice, and really the nearby field only had a few drills. You could walk around to the other field, but there were no bleachers to sit on, and the fence had a strip on it that you couldn't see through, so you had to LIFT your kids over it so they could watch. It was a dumbshit move by a team on Family Fun Day.

2. The QB competition wasn't much of one, really. Alex was still very conservative compared to the other two, so don't believe much of the hype that he's airing out the ball. He mostly just did that in drills where he didn't face a passrush. Bray and Mahomes today was solidly in Mahomes' favor. Bray's passes are erratic, and Mahomes' anticipation of his receivers rivals Smith already. Mahomes had two back shoulder passes today that connected. In the final two-minute drills, Smith and Bray were intercepted in the endzone, and Mahomes took a sack to kill his drive inside the 5. On the second go around, Mahomes and Bray went nowhere, and Smith was able to engineer a TD drive on a dynamic run that bounced outside by Kareem Hunt.

Mahomes looks like the #2 more and more to me -- although he battled 2nd and 3rd stringers today, while Bray played the 1's. Bray is almost an afterthought out there -- Smith unfurled a gorgeous teardrop pass to Hill who took it for a 99 yard TD. Mahomes came out immediately after and hit Spiller wide open across the middle for a 99 yard TD a couple plays later. They're both playing pretty well.

Speaking of which, why do we even have Joel Stave? They didn't let him engineer one drive.

3. Ware looks like Ware -- all truck, no shake 'n' bake. Hunt looks like the most well-rounded of the bunch, other than struggles in pass protection. He is a lot faster in pads than he looks, and is surprisingly strong -- legitimately pushed a couple piles today, and scored the aforementioned TD. He's also got a little nasty to him, stiffarming tacklers. West didn't really register today, but Spiller sure did. Ho boy, can this guy move. Spiller still has a ton of burst in the passing game, though I didn't see him run the ball today. But he's going to effortlessly fall into the Joe McKnight role we had a couple years back. West simply doesn't have his dynamism.

4. Demetrius Harris had an outstanding day today. He stood up Houston in passblocking drills and he was able to catch a ball with Berry draped all over him. That's $180m of talent he beat today. He's far and away the #2 TE, and he could have a breakout year this year.

At WR, I probably don't need to tell you guys that the Hill hype is for real, but it totally is. Nobody can guard this guy one-on-one, and he catches everything. He looks like a rare talent and could really open up our offense. He will certainly lead our WRs in receptions. 2nd of our WRs will not be Conley, however. Conley still isn't getting separation and only had a catch or two today. Albert Wilson, however, was running very sharp underneath routes in almost a Wes Welker type role. Wilson could possibly top 50 receptions this year, as Alex found him time and time and time again.

But I do think our WR corps is going to struggle outside of Hill. Robinson isn't a playmaker, really, and Seantavius Jones didn't show up today on the field. Chesson may have some play in him, but he's not looking like anything more than a part-time player now. Tevin Jones, actually, had the best catch of the day -- turned his head just as Smith's pass got to him, juggled it a bit and reeled in it with a CB on his back. And this Gehrig Dieter kid, though, a big white kid with the #4, looked very active. Caught everything, got lots of attention from Bray and Mahomes.

Not a dynamic athlete, though. Really, outside of the WRs we already know, Dorsey brought in a lot of huge WRs to try to find a diamond in the rough possession guy. Both Jones' have some ability, but the guy who won today was Dieter. But still, the Chiefs are going to need to use their RBs and TEs a ton in the passing game, because we only have one WR that can make big time plays.

5. The OL struggled hardcore today with the DL talent in the one-on-one passing drills. Kpassagnon had a weirdly ineffective day (more on that in a minute) but he did get into Fisher's grill and pushed him backward. Morse and Ehinger both got dominated by Cam Thomas (more on him in a minute), but Schwartz beat the life out of his challengers, and Jah Reid showed up. All in all the 1st string OL (and yes, Witzmann is your full-time starter now at LG) played well in the scrimmage, though. Alex wasn't touched. Mahomes and Bray both got "sacked" a couple times.

6. I know we just brought on Roy Miller (who didn't play, today), but Cam Thomas may just be your 2nd string NT, folks. I didn't get to watch the running drills, so I don't know how well he anchors, but he devoured Morse and Witzmann one-on-one. He's pretty quick for a monster his size, and has a couple powerful swim moves that neither OL could handle. I don't know much about Miller, but Thomas impressed me. They let Montori Hughes go instead of him a couple days ago, so it's clear they think they may have a three-man depth chart at NT with Miller, Thomas, and Logan. When Logan went out, by the way, they put in RNR with the 1's at NT. Interesting.

I don't think Logan was hurting that bad, but it's a heck of a walk back, so they carted him. David King reeeeeally twisted up his ankle, though. He hobbled off, so he'll still be on the team unless we have to IR him to keep him. But he should be fine by opening day, should he be on the 53. I'm not a professional, though, just noting what I saw.

Kpassagnon is a really explosive kid who I have high hopes for, but the coaching staff kept putting him in a two-point stance at OLB today. I have absolutely no idea why they did that, but it yielded pretty much what you'd expect: a couple bullrushes that went nowhere, and a couple edge rushes that went wide. That's just not what this kid is built to do, regardless of how insanely athletic he is.

7. Because my vantage point was so shitty, I have basically nothing to remark on the LBs. I know that DJ played with the 1's, and almost had a pick. I know nothing else. The Chiefs really ****ed over most of their fans today.

8. Gaines is ... Gaines. He made a very impressive interception today in the one-on-ones, but he also got destroyed on a juke for a short-pass by a 3rd stringer today. Mitchell looked pretty good working out, so I'm sure he'll come back strong, soon. But if he or Peters go out for any length of time this year, Gaines is going to need help. He has all the ability you need to be a good CB, but like last year, he just shows inexplicable errors with regularity that really cost your team. I don't have a lot of faith in him.

All three were in the tent, doing physical therapy.

Edit: Well, I can confirm Mitchell and Nelson. I didn't see Kelce, but I'm sure he was there.

They always practice on that field instead of on the one closest to the bleachers. It honestly stinks.

https://instagram.com/p/BXaiMBBFcQA/

From a better angle.

That's not my experience, or what I've been told.

Last year, they scrimmaged on the near field. And Terez tweeted at me, telling me they alternate the near field and far field.

I can sympathize with alternating fields, but if people are going to bring children 4 hours to see the Chiefs play, then goddamn it, use the nearside field.

I could be wrong, but every time I've been there (granted only 3x) they only practice on the far field when they're doing 11 on 11s or 7 on 7s. The near field is used for defensive drills and other minor drills, ST, etc.

"At WR, I probably don't need to tell you guys that the Hill hype is for real, but it totally is. Nobody can guard this guy one-on-one, and he catches everything. He looks like a rare talent and could really open up our offense. He will certainly lead our WRs in receptions. 2nd of our WRs will not be Conley, however. Conley still isn't getting separation and only had a catch or two today. Albert Wilson, however, was running very sharp underneath routes in almost a Wes Welker type role. Wilson could possibly top 50 receptions this year, as Alex found him time and time and time again."



I liked what I saw out of Wilson his grab with Peters on him was spectacular and he lost a shoe breaking a tackle and ran in for a touchdown. Tyreek is going demand a lot of attention that will open up the rest of the field for guys like Albert Wilson.

I saw some GIFs earlier from the Pats playoff game two years ago, a guy was highlighting the fact that they bracketed Kelce the entire game.

I suspect they will do the same for the season opener, but now with Hill you have another guy who really might need bracket coverage from time to time. I wouldn't trust any corner to cover him 1-on-1 throughout a whole game.

Against the backups, WITH the backups.

I'm able to ignore you most of the time, but God damn why does it irritate me so much when I see you purposely omit things?

You sure that wasn't Jones?

https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/s...062849/video/1

When you're beating one of the best corners in the game you will make this team. Jones has been getting reps with the #1s. Stretch is here to stay boys!

So, Direckshun, I thought that Parker Ehinger has been on the PUP?

He is

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGfVBKmVYAAYCVm.jpg:large


ROFL

That was a good read, Direckshun.

A couple questions, if I may?

1. Are we ****ed at WR? I'm very cautiously optimistic about Albert Wilson, but if he's your number 2 guy at WR....man o man.

2. Does Bray even have a spot on this team? I get the feeling that nobody around camp has any confidence in this guy, and if Alex Smith did go down, what then? If they truly don't think Mahomes is ready, I could see Bray playing 1 game, throwing 4 INTs and a couple pick 6's, then mysteriously ending up on IR or just flat out released.

I told you all at the beginning that Albert Wilson, the guy you all hate, is one of Reid's guys. The more you project him to miss the final 53 roster because you hate him, the more likely it is he's going to stick around.

I would rather have him on the roster than dAnthony thomas

Doesn't Albert Wilson lead the team in receiving TDs in playoff games for us

Great thread, and Tigger-free!

MOAR Mahomes.

My guess is they didn't want to tear up the near field since it was raining.

****. Maclin would have been so nice to have still.

I hate this narrative that Mahomes isn't ready so who do they go to if Alex goes down. **** that, if Alex goes down or is sucking up on the field I absolutely play Mahomes. The guy is a gamer he'll be ready even if you had to simplify the offense. He gives us the best chance of winning in my opinion right now.

So a guy who has yet to play a down in the NFL gives us a better chance at winning tha a guy who has gone 47-21 and has the 3rd best winning percentage among QBs the last 4 years

Playoff record is all that counts, we know exactly what we're getting out of Alex. We don't know yet what we're getting out of Mahomes. Alex will get us to the playoffs and lose, might as well put Mahomes in and see what we can get

"But But, its a team game" only when it fits your agenda i guess.

He said "if alex goes down, or is sucking"

Tyler Bray has yet to step on the field for a regular season after 4 years. Mahomes has already picked up most of offense and learns everyday not making same mistakes. He will get 4 preseason games and out beat Tyler Bray.


Who would you rather have back up if Mahomes beats out Tyler Bray? Tyler Bray?


That would be ****ing dumb and detrimental to the team. Guys will get hurt because of Tyler Bray errant throws.

Get a clue dude

The guys neck is straining. Don't drop the kid lol

If Reid decides to go with Mahomes, then I would say the answer is yes.

I was responding to TambaBerry who said as a starter Mahomes gives us the best chance at winning.

Maybe he does. You dont know that yet.

Totally agree. I will add that I think... even though he is still the starter... Smith's leash is getting shorter by the day.

Ahhh so he will be better than everyone but Brady, Wilson, and Smitty. Got it. Football is based off of wins and losses. Smitty is the third best in the last 4 years!

I got some post-Montana Chiefs QBs from the Marty era I'd like you to meet

Well he is right. Tyler Bray is a joke what the Chiefs see in him I have no clue, but he will be gone and Id be surprised if he is with the team start of the season and not scour other teams hidden gems on their practice squad.


I don't know how much playing time each Patrick and Tyler will get in preseason but come game four Patrick should take the bulk of snaps and Alex get a series or two and get off the field. He will need all the preseason reps he can get.

No I agree that Mahomes should be the #2 but not the starter

Got to love the irony

'Alex Smith has a top three W-L record the past four years, so he is a top 3 QB!' - Penbrook

'If we had better run defense we would have won the Steelers playoff game!' - also Penbrook

LMAO

It's only a team game for Smith fanboys when we lose.

I never said starter but he has to be ready to go in anytime in case Alex Smith goes down for what ever reason maybe a hangnail but it doesn't matter. Quarterbacks get hurt that is the nature of the game so I'm not wishing a real injury on Alex Smith but people need to brace themselves for that realistic possibility.


Unless Chiefs find a cheap vet to backup Alex and dismiss Tyler Bray all together question-mark

Patrick is prime game to beat out Tyler Bray from all accounts so far and it's not even really close. How often do we hear Bray throwing TD to Tyreek or anybody?

Bruce Ellington waived by the Jets already

http://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/ar...d-11736895.php

First off I never said he was a top 3 QB. I said he is a top 3 QB based on wins. Learn how to read.

And yes if we had a run D we would of won. We tied it up with about 2 mins left in the fourth negated by a penalty and a ineffective offense. But letting Bell run for 178 yards is pathetic in a playoff game. If we could of stopped some of their drives the defense would of been rested more and they wouldn't of kicked 6 FGs

Great stuff, all kinds of interesting and satisfying news... thanks for the effort

Hmm. I mean the Chiefs did put a waiver claim in for him

When was the last time Smitty has completed a full 16 game season?

This kid was a baller at South Carolina. I'd take him, considering our current crop of receivers.

Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
Hearing things about Tyreek Hill. He's about to go Steve Smith on the NFL.

We along with 3 other teams did put a claim in on him. I think we might pick him up now

I would give the common sense rebuttal that I have given so many times, but this thread doesn't need to be derailed anymore by your dumb ass theories.

Jets waived him with injury so don't know what's up with that.

post 2000 YAY