Where'd those numbers come from? They aren't combine numbers.

Ruggs - 4.27
Hardman - 4.33
White 4.42
Jefferson - 4.43

They aren’t combine times. This was from an offseason nfl event.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021...eacher-report/

They weren’t even on the same surfaces.

You think Coleman drops out of the top 10 after running a bit slow? He did have the fastest top speed in the gauntlet, at least in his group.

God damn MM is a stupid mother****er

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Ross through his first 3 years in college<br><br>•33 receptions, 579 yards, 5TD<br><br>Xavier Worthy as a *true freshman*<br><br>•62 receptions, 981 yards, 12TD<br><br>Worthy also had 600+ more yards than WR2 on the team. He can be SPECIAL.</p>&mdash; kev mahserejian (@RotoSurgeon) <a href="https://twitter.com/RotoSurgeon/status/1764069656032379144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Gotchya. So cherry picking some meaningless bullshit nobody cares about?

Potentially, yeah. 4.61 and never cracked 800 yards in a college season is going to hurt him some I think. He might not fall beyond 9th but it's going to be an uphill climb now in a really stacked class.

Late round pick? He's a day 2 lock.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Top 3-cone WR results:<br><br>6.64 Ricky Pearsall<br>6.70 Luke McCaffrey<br>6.75 Isaiah Williams<br>6.88 Rome Odunze<br>6.90 Troy Franklin<br>6.94 Jalen McMillan<br>7.00 Tulu Griffin<br>7.02 Jacob Cowing<br>7.16 Jamari Thrash</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1764099406939173358?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Troy Franklin’s 40 (4.41) and 3 cone (6.90) were fine. His 10 yard a
Split (1.61) and 20 Juarez shuttle (4.31) were terrible for what you see from him.

Today proved he’s a build up speed kinda player

Yeah. Rough day for him. Making those Denzel Mims comparisons hold water.

Ricky Pearsall, though… 4.41… great shuttle and 3-cone.

Not really

https://www.nfl.com/photos/top-11-fa...p3000000917865

White boy Rick is a bad bad man

No idea if we have a realistic shot, but I'm liking Brenden Rice more today. Based more on some of the Senior Bowl highlights I watched a few days ago, but he looked good at the combine as well today. Nice release package from what he showed at the SB, and can be very physical with DBs when necessary. Runs pretty nice routes, very smooth for a bigger WR.

Uhh... 6.9 is a great 3-cone for 6'2" player. It's actually really good for any WR at any height.

What do you mean "not really?"

It shot John Ross up form a 2nd round prospect to the 9th overall
It shot Henry Ruggs up from fringe 1st rounder to 12th overall.
Tyquan Thornton went from a 5th-round prospect to the 50th overall.
Marquise Goodwin went from borderline draftable to a 3rd rounder.
It made some others 1st rounders that shouldn't have been, like Will Fuller, Darrius Heyward-Bey, and Phillip Dorsett.
It got alot of kids drafted at all.

Speed matters to the NFL execs.

Don't forget Tavon Austin lol. That dude got drafted 8th overall and was only 5'8" 174 lb. He was a fringe 1st round guy, but his 40 time got the Rams to trade picks to move up for him.

Still haven’t done a deep dive, but prior to today Mitchell was a better prospect than Worthy right?

If so, it might be a blessing in disguise. Outside of Tyreek .. who is a unicorn. There really isn’t that much of a difference between a 4.22 and 4.35

I think we are talking 2 different things im saying performance in underwear doesn't mean shit in terms of a player. If it changes an execs mind well they probably aren't that good to begin with. Tape doesn't lie

And Worthy's tape doesn't lie either. He's one of the top 6-7 WRs in this class regardless of how fast he ran. The fact he just broke the combine record just means he's guaranteed to go high.

Scouting Combine Day 3 Stock up/Stock down
 

He also has experienced working to get open with a QB who leaves the pocket.

Crow talk to me about Ricky Ticky Pearsall- I'm beating the drum HAAAAARRD for him now that he tested way more athletically than I thought. What isn't to like about him?

What a year for WR's though, this has got to be the best class in the last decade.

Also side note- not a great day for Franklin. Obviously 4.41 is fine deep speed but I thought the WR gauntlet he didn't look great. Twitter video going around of Coleman of all guys completing the gauntlet at a higher MPH and didn't fade away from the straight line, Franklin faded every pass he caught.

Obviously not the end of the world but I like Pearsall over Franklin.

I think some are down on him due to his age.

I love Pearsall.

Wouldn't think he makes it to 64 now, but somebody has to. The WR group is just too stacked.

Meant to upvote, sorry!

It probably isn't isn't good idea, but if we didn't get a WR in FA and opted for 2 in rounds 1 and 2...I think I'd be cool work that. There's so much talent it just feels a huge waste not to take advantage.

Even if they don't get a Hollywood or Mooney it would be dumb for KC not to add value FA WR's.

Guys like

Darius Slayton
Noah Brown
Devin Duvernay

all better than anyone at WR other than Rice last year and could be as cheap as 5 million a year.

Probably, I just think there's a ton if guys who could end up better and cheaper. But they won't take the risk I'd imagine.

It depends who they draft.

Franklin and Worthy project as Vertical 2 Decoys.

Of course Worthy could be a Nagy gadget slot and break after catching a few passes over the middle.

I would like us to draft a #1 WR because we don't seem interested in ever paying for one in FA.

Forget EVERYTHING I said before.

There is only one clear move here.

You trade sneed to move up and grab Adonai Mitchell at all costs.

If we can somehow get a 1st for sneed, you draft Mitchell and Worthy.

Both in the first round

4 years of a ridiculously talented receiving corp on the cheap.

We already knew he had speed. The question about his frame and struggling at times with press coverage wasn't answered today in his underwear

Just don't have the money for FA. That's why like I said I wouldn't be too bummed if we double dipped and gave ourselves the best chance of hitting on a cheap elite talent.

At this point the nightmare sceanrio is Chargers get Nabers, Bengals get Mitchell, Bills get Thomas and someone like the Texans get Franklin and Baltimore gets Worthy.

That would be...sub-optimal. Because as much as I like Wilson, Pearsall etc I think they represent a drop-off

We see cover 2 99% of the time FYI. Also played outside 72% of the time. Lazy narrative that he’s a slot receiver.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A lot of people want a deep threat to &quot;take the top off defenses&quot; and I get it. Personally, all I care about is generating explosive plays, and there are a lot of ways to do it. This is one. <br><br>In the NFL you don&#39;t see a ton of just Go routes actually hit. Especially with defenses… <a href="https://t.co/SNix4GVxqL">https://t.co/SNix4GVxqL</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Quinn (@AaronQuinn716) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronQuinn716/status/1764094383467475034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If that happens then a good LT, CB, TE, DT, DE etc are likely to be on the board. We can then hopefully grab a wideout in the second round onwards. Going by your list Coleman, Leggett, Corley, Walker, Ladd, Polk, Baker etc would be an option. I don't think we should take a wideout in the first round just becuase others have tbh. If one of the very top guys are there then fine, do it. If not then pivot and be patient.

We HAVE a #1 receiver. That will easily, barring injury, be a 1000 yard guy.

I’m not opposed to it

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Nowadays 1,000 yards isn’t necessarily all that impressive. I’d hope for 1,200-1,300 from a #1 WR with Mahomes.

Glad you mentioned that. If you extrapolate Rice's second half of the season -which coincides with his taking the bulk of the snaps, you see exactly that - a 1300 yard receiver.

I could see Chiefs taking Mitchell or McConkey in the first round, whichever the Bills dont take.

Hoooboy! I'm just catching up, got up to the mountain yesterday.

Worthy, Mitchell, and Thomas Jr really killed it in the 40! Everybody's talking bout Mitchell, congrats to him, but how about Thomas Jr!? Dude ran that 40 easy!

Here's a guy no one's said anything about, J. Wilson!? His numbers are pretty surprising. Dude's the Victor W of the NFL?

McConkey, McCaffrey, and especially Coleman looked awesome in the Gauntlet drill! No qualms with Coleman's 40, his size and play speed are pro level IMO.

Franklyn, Legette, Walker, and Washington all performed really well too!

So many great options in this draft! 2nd round will be stacked!

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anyone know where I can watch the rest of the WR drills? only seeing bits and pieces on youtube.

Now give him another offseason...

McConkey would be such a weird pick at 32.

On one hand, I would be underwhelmed, because it's not an exciting pick whatsoever.

On the other hand, I'd be extremely confident that Pat has another reliable weapon that will be absolutely fantastic on 3rd down and in the RZ.

Xaveir Worthy only 6 deep balls all season, 22 screen catches, is concerning to me.

Seems like a very high floor pick.

Can’t really argue with that too much. Just getting competent receivers who catch the ball makes us better. We don’t need stars, as great as it would be to have a couple more.

Good break down here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A74PoXz0Zz0

Get your LT first. Then get McConkey with the top 50 pick you got for Sneed.

So many good WR's I wonder if we don't wait until the 2nd again.

Curious where the chips fall on the updated big boards after the combine.

Thomas Jr in the first would be ideal.

I think my guy is Ricky Pearsall if Worthy isn’t there.

His route running is phenomenal. I don’t see his age being a problem, just means he’s more mature than younger dudes.

The problem with that is after the top 2 LTs, then you're in the realm of RTs which is deep.

Franklin was 11th % in 10-yard split but finished with 4.4 40. His gauntlet was sloppy and he's pretty damn light, but I think that might speak to him being a bit raw. If he's a near 1st rounder, and has room for coaching, then he has great potential.

Anyone remember a draft with 3 killer white WRs? lol

Dude, that one handed grab while two defenders just clocked him kinda sealed it for me.

Johnny Wilson, at 6-7 beating Franklin in the 10 yard split and 20 yard shuffle is validating for him I'm sure.

https://x.com/matty_kcsn/status/1764...lHXA6BeO88mpxA

Just some worthy stuff

I don’t think you could take him at 32 with his small frame but it’s a conversation

Not to be hyperbolic, but is there a catch in college football history that’s clearly more difficult than that?

The Prothro catch is crazy but more luck than anything. AJ Green had a crazy one in the endzone but didn’t take contact like that.

Ok, so I watched some more Ladd McConkey.


Dude is a football player. Another WR I like. Crisp, perfect routes...like Scary Terry McLaurin.

Can play inside, outside, wherever.

Sean McVay must be like this watching McConk...


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I would be good with him at 32 if Veach was too scared and chicken to get a Big Boy WR.

Makes me smile watching this guy cut it up and catch the ball.

A real football player.

You can still take him, but he’ll need to bulk up a bit before camp. He could add 10-12 lbs, maybe more.

https://i.imgur.com/hopvSkq.gif

I don't think he gets passed the Panthers at 33.

That team needs a guy that can go out there and be a target monster week 1.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So, Ladd shares the same agent as Pat and AD and Xavier are from Texas. I&#39;m guessing Pat will get plenty of opportunity to throw to those guys Pre-Draft <a href="https://t.co/nQv11KzfBL">https://t.co/nQv11KzfBL</a></p>&mdash; ChiefBearcat (@Chief_Bearcat) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chief_Bearcat/status/1764333019282760089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mcconkey being compared to Garrett Wilson

That doesn’t pencil

He's not a little bitch boy like Garrett so I agree.

He's not again people overreacting to the combine

Now that we had the Underwear Olympics its time for the kids on Twitter to change their boards and claim so and so is moving up or down.

I’ve always thought of the combine as more of a disqualifier and validator than anything else.

If someone looks like shit, no issues knocking them down. It could speak to their preparation or dedication.

If someone looks great, it could validate the speed you see on film.

I’d always be cautious about bumping someone way up if the film doesn’t back it up.

This kid looks really good too. I loved his tape

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the Senior Bowl to the Combine, Ricky Pearsall has caught everything thrown his direction. Has aced the pre-draft process. One of my favorite Day 2 WRs in the draft. <br><br>Full Recap➡️: <a href="https://t.co/Tmqg7bUs2M">https://t.co/Tmqg7bUs2M</a> <a href="https://t.co/xPlL6z9P5f">pic.twitter.com/xPlL6z9P5f</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Reid (@Jordan_Reid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jordan_Reid/status/1764089609976209784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He’s my dude if Worthy isn’t there.

Dang. I actually was thinking the same thing re: McLaurin watching him in the gauntlet drill and then watching his game action from this year. He put a lot of NFL players on their heels from a bunch of different alignments.

What's with Roman Wilson's tattoos? lol

Butterflies and shooting stars? ok.

1st
Harrison Jr
Nabers
Odunze
Thomas Jr
Worthy
Mitchell

2nd
McConkey
Franklin
Walker
Coleman
Legette
Burton

3rd
Polk
R Wilson
Pearsall
J Wilson
Cowing
Corley

4th
J Baker
McMillian
McCaffrey
Rice Jr
Thrash
Washington

^How's that big board look?

Noting ESPN has X. Legette ranked #5 in this WR class. (Prior to any post-combine updates)

Guys, talk to me about Tez. I hated him as a prospect and his initial slot seemed too high. He dropped everything at the senior bowl practices, but his ability to get open early was other worldly. His route running was fantastic and effortless. Is he done because of the drops? His frame? His combine was a step in the right direction, but there are serious concerns.

Totally agree

I don't think McConkey or Pearsall make it out of the second. They're both polished, tough receivers that have a lot of tape against top talent. GMs are going to look at both and see Kupp.

I'm still very interested.

Here's one for you guys, is Tez Walker a better or worse prospect than Rice was the previous year?

Same size, similar projected stats if Walker played a full season at NC, Rice would still have more yards but Walkers has the faster 40, off brand football programs, both have drop concerns, Rice was #11 on Draftbuzz and Walker is #14 in a loaded class... pretty decent comparison.

Honestly, sounds like Walker might be the better WR all around. Faster, better route runner.

What do you guys think?