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comochiefsfan 03-16-2022 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16195292)
You are still such a pussy
Most of our conference rivals caught up to us last season, and now they're continuing to get better while we get worse.

Hard to feel good about where we stand in the AFC going forward knowing that's the current reality.

PattyFlakes 03-16-2022 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16195284)
That’s kind of my point. We see other AFC teams signing a lot of big names. I don’t think Veach is just missing out. We clearly weren’t interested in most of them.
There aren’t a lot of these guys that have been signed to big contracts that I’ve necessarily been pining for. With the exception of maybe Jones, but I had zero expectations of him being a Chief.

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:03 PM
People sure are putting a lot of stock into old pass rushers that could all easily fall off a cliff at any moment.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:03 PM
Maybe our plan is to do what the Bills did last year and take DE in the 1st and 2nd round.

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195308)
Maybe our plan is to do what the Bills did last year and take DE in the 1st and 2nd round.
Right now, that wouldn’t surprise me at all, and it might even be likely.

Give me Karlaftis and Williams.

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-16-2022 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16195301)
Most of our conference rivals caught up to us last season, and now they're continuing to get better while we get worse.

Hard to feel good about where we stand in the AFC going forward knowing that's the current reality.
Maybe stop being a hyperbolic reerun.

"I dont know if Veach has a plan."

Really? The GM responsible for the rosters that made it to 3 straight AFC Championships and 2 Super Bowls suddenly doesn't have a plan? Based on what?

Titty Meat 03-16-2022 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195307)
People sure are putting a lot of stock into old pass rushers that could all easily fall off a cliff at any moment.
You were arguing for a guy coming off back surgery

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16195312)
You were arguing for a guy coming off back surgery
Because he shouldn't have been super expensive.....which he wasn't.

$120 million for Von Miller is ****ing stupid.

Phoneix 03-16-2022 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoneix (Post 16195274)
for a 32 YO linebacker- smart move lol
Even better - he turns 33 in 2 weeks lol


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comochiefsfan 03-16-2022 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16195311)
Maybe stop being a hyperbolic reerun.

"I dont know if Veach has a plan."

Really? The GM responsible for the rosters that made it to 3 straight AFC Championships and 2 Super Bowls suddenly doesn't have a plan? Based on what?
Well to be fair the core of these teams was really constructed by his predecessor, John Dorsey.

Titty Meat 03-16-2022 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195313)
Because he shouldn't have been super expensive.....which he wasn't.

$120 million for Von Miller is ****ing stupid.
I promise you Miller won't be getting 120 million

ILChief 03-16-2022 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195308)
Maybe our plan is to do what the Bills did last year and take DE in the 1st and 2nd round.
Possibly. We couldn’t sack the QB for shit and haven’t added any of the free agents that would help. Need to get a number two wideout if that’s the plan

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195290)
There are plenty of DL out there that make us better. That's more because of the talent on our DL versus what's out there but still.

Clowney, Key, Barnett, Flowers are just a few. There are more.
When I say *make us better* I don't mean right now when even a few warm bodies would suffice.

I'm talking about better than the last 4 years of this run.

Key would surely help, I'm not seeing it with the others.

Clowney is going to get $50M, Barnett did NOTHING last year and I don't see how Flowers is a scheme fit.

Like I said before, I don't keep up on this stuff nearly as much as I used to - but that's how I see it.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16195319)
I promise you Miller won't be getting 120 million
He’s getting $17.5 million over the first couple of years. That’s a good chunk of change for a guy who’s about to be 33.

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16195312)
You were arguing for a guy coming off back surgery
Because he was our best most realistic option.

That doesn’t mean there isn’t a ton of risk.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195323)
When I say *make us better* I don't mean right now when even a few warm bodies would suffice.

I'm talking about better than the last 4 years of this run.

Key would surely help, I'm not seeing it with the others.

Clowney is going to get $50M, Barnett did NOTHING last year and I don't see how Flowers is a scheme fit.
I don’t see Clowney getting that much.

And we’ll be worse but that was pretty much going to happen regardless.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195313)
Because he shouldn't have been super expensive.....which he wasn't.

$120 million for Von Miller is ****ing stupid.
Von Miller isn't seeing $120M

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:10 PM
I’m not convinced that we will be worse.

We have no idea how our young talent will continue to develop or the impact our draft class will have.

If Veach knocks this draft out the park for the 2nd year in a row, we can absolutely get better.

ForeverIowan 03-16-2022 05:10 PM
Think Patrick Mahomes is in the Bills' heads at all? LMFAO. $120 million for Von Miller in addition to their last several high draft picks on pass rushers. Just ridiculous!

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195328)
Von Miller isn't seeing $120M
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195324)
He’s getting $17.5 million over the first couple of years. That’s a good chunk of change for a guy who’s about to be 33.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195326)
I don’t see Clowney getting that much.

And we’ll be worse but that was pretty much going to happen regardless.
I'll be surprised if he doesn't get 4/$50, 3/$36, etc.

Titty Meat 03-16-2022 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195330)
I’m not convinced that we will be worse.

We have no idea how our young talent will continue to develop or the impact our draft class will have.

If Veach knocks this draft out the park for the 2nd year in a row, we can absolutely get better.
I hope so but he has missed bigly throughout his career here at the D-end position. We shall see.

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-16-2022 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16195318)
Well to be fair the core of these teams was really constructed by his predecessor, John Dorsey.
5 years ago bud. Dorsey is unemployed and Veach has given us teams every year that can win championships.

Get over it.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195332)
.
Unlike most 33 year olds at that position, dude can still wreck a game.

Now, if they're on the hook for anything substantial past the 2nd year - I'm with you.

DJ's left nut 03-16-2022 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195308)
Maybe our plan is to do what the Bills did last year and take DE in the 1st and 2nd round.
Been my preferred approach all along.

Gimme Devonte Wyatt in the first and a trade up in the 2nd for Sam Williams then grab whatever big/fast WR is left in the 3rd (Pierce or Tolbert if we’re lucky) and one of these fast linebackers like Leo Chenel in 4.

I can absolutely embrace that plan.

But remember - that’s not exactly in Veach’s hands. A lot can blow that whole plan apart.

Phoneix 03-16-2022 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195328)
Von Miller isn't seeing $120M
3 years and 52 million guaranteed. They will still be paying him at 36

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2022...-length-amount

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16195340)
Been my preferred approach all along.

Gimme Devonte Wyatt in the first and a trade up in the 2nd for Sam Williams then grab whatever big/fast WR is left in the 3rd (Pierce or Tolbert if we’re lucky) and one of these fast linebackers like Leo Chenel in 4.

I can absolutely embrace that plan.

But remember - that’s not exactly in Veach’s hands. A lot can blow that whole plan apart.
This.

duncan_idaho 03-16-2022 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195338)
Unlike most 33 year olds at that position, dude can still wreck a game.

Now, if they're on the hook for anything substantial past the 2nd year - I'm with you.

Likely a rough look in year 4 when they move on from him and all the bonus years accelerate all at once.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195338)
Unlike most 33 year olds at that position, dude can still wreck a game.

Now, if they're on the hook for anything substantial past the 2nd year - I'm with you.
He's about a 9-10 sack per year guy right now. I guess we'll see if he ends up being worth it or not.

Like DJ said....only one AFC team can make it. Each of these moves makes it harder on everyone else.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16195344)
Likely a rough look in year 4 when they move on from him and all the bonus years accelerate all at once.
As always, we'll be curious to see how it's structured.

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195338)
Unlike most 33 year olds at that position, dude can still wreck a game.

Now, if they're on the hook for anything substantial past the 2nd year - I'm with you.
Yea, he can wreck a game.

But he really hasn’t wrecked many outside of last years playoffs while playing on a very stacked Rams defense playing next to Aaron Donald.

He’s still a good player, but he’s not dominant by any means.

How invisible was he his last few years in Denver when we played them?

comochiefsfan 03-16-2022 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16195337)
5 years ago bud. Dorsey is unemployed and Veach has given us teams every year that can win championships.

Get over it.
Mahomes, Hill, Kelce, Jones

Dorsey.

This team doesn't sniff the playoffs without John.

Forever the greatest GM in Chiefs history.

Phoneix 03-16-2022 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195349)
Yea, he can wreck a game.

But he really hasn’t wrecked many outside of last years playoffs while playing on a very stacked Rams defense playing next to Aaron Donald.

He’s still a good player, but he’s not dominant by any means.

How invisible was he his last few years in Denver when we played them?
Bingo - he wasn't doing much for the Broncos at the time he was traded.

Titty Meat 03-16-2022 05:16 PM
Let's not turn this thread into that debate please

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16195351)
Mahomes, Hill, Kelce, Jones

Dorsey.

This team doesn't sniff the playoffs without John.

Forever the greatest GM in Chiefs history.
Get this dumb shit the **** out of here.

duncan_idaho 03-16-2022 05:17 PM
I’ll also say this:

Everyone going hyperbolic about Veach not having a plan right now needs to chill. The ****. Out.

He didn’t turn into Chris Ballard overnight.

I think their plan A at edge was Z Smith. Their plan B is yet to be seen.

Last year, people lost their minds when KC missed out on Rodney Hudson and Trent Williams during the first week of FA. The plan B there ended up being pretty great.

-King- 03-16-2022 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16195188)
RUN IT BACK!!!!!!
LMAO

duncan_idaho 03-16-2022 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195355)
Get this dumb shit the **** out of here.

He’s back on ignore. Was on it for a decade. Took it off a while back. No more.

Couch-Potato 03-16-2022 05:19 PM
Would you give up our 4th for L'eal Collins?

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoneix (Post 16195353)
Bingo - he wasn't doing much for the Broncos at the time he was traded.
He'll be surrounded by much closer to Rams-level talent in Buffalo than Denver-level talent.

I think Pest is spot on with his 9-10 sack idea. Could be a LOT more considering he's going to get to pin his ears back late in a lot of those AFCE matchups.

ForeverIowan 03-16-2022 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16195362)
Would you give up our 4th for L'eal Collins?
Sounding like Collins to New England...

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195363)
He'll be surrounded by much closer to Rams-level talent in Buffalo than Denver-level talent.

I think Pest is spot on with his 9-10 sack idea. Could be a LOT more considering he's going to get to pin his ears back late in a lot of those AFCE matchups.
Buffalo’s defense is much more scheme than talent.

That team is nowhere near the Rams in terms of actual talent, especially in the front 7.

They have a good safety tandem, a legit CB1, and some solid players. They aren’t a defense oozing talent.

Couch-Potato 03-16-2022 05:21 PM
"Patriots have kicked around several ideas for compensation that include a possible swap of picks in the 2022 NFL Draft or simply giving the Cowboys a pick on Day 2, but the discussions are preliminary and haven’t yet been presented or formalized. Collins’ flexibility is also intriguing to the Patriots, considering he was converted from guard to tackle by the Cowboys and, as such, has an ability to kick inside if/when needed — as evidenced in 2021 following the emergence of Terence Steele at tackle.

La'el Collins is drawing trade interest from some NFL teams but, with nothing imminent, the Patriots are emerging as a strong candidate -- mulling compensation packages at the moment, I'm told."

Sounds like it would take at least a 3rd, maybe we'd get a late pick back in return.

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-16-2022 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16195351)
Mahomes, Hill, Kelce, Jones

Dorsey.

This team doesn't sniff the playoffs without John.

Forever the greatest GM in Chiefs history.
And it doesn't win a SB and continue to be the favorite for future SBs without Veach.

I dont see the argument here dude.

smithandrew051 03-16-2022 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195366)
Lol what?

Buffalo’s defense is much more scheme than talent.

That team is nowhere near the Rams in terms of actual talent.
Plus, they would be really dumb to not manage his snap counts at his age/salary.

9-10 sacks is about the most I would expect out of him.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:23 PM
Kind of pissing me off that we can't get updated salary cap numbers this far after the deadline at this point.

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195363)
He'll be surrounded by much closer to Rams-level talent in Buffalo than Denver-level talent.

I think Pest is spot on with his 9-10 sack idea. Could be a LOT more considering he's going to get to pin his ears back late in a lot of those AFCE matchups.
He hasn’t had double digit sacks since 2018.

Again, he’s still a good player, but you are really overrating him.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195366)
Buffalo’s defense is much more scheme than talent.

That team is nowhere near the Rams in terms of actual talent, especially in the front 7.

They have a good safety tandem, a legit CB1, and some solid players. They aren’t a defense oozing talent.
Never said they were "oozing talent" - but he'll be surrounded by more talent than he was in Denver for sure.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195377)
He hasn’t had double digit sacks since 2018.

Again, he’s still a good player, but you are really overrating him.
Good thing I'm not a scout, eh?

Baby Lee 03-16-2022 05:25 PM
Za’Darius Smith a Raven, . . getting close to BINGO!!

-King- 03-16-2022 05:26 PM
Do we structure contracts differently than the rest of the league or something? Why is it that this year and last year there seems to be confusions over re-structures? Meanwhile all the other teams are restructuring guys left and right to make room for FAs.

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195380)
Never said they were "oozing talent" - but he'll be surrounded by more talent than he was in Denver for sure.
I’m not so sure about that. The Broncos have talent and have been pretty good on defense the last few years.

Even when we struggled with them over the last few years, Von hasn’t exactly been the reason.

ToxSocks 03-16-2022 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16195383)
Za’Darius Smith a Raven, . . getting close to BINGO!!
Welp, so much for that.

In58men 03-16-2022 05:27 PM
I think we we’re going to stand pat until Friday when Mahomes can officially restructure.

I feel like that’s what we’re waiting on.

O.city 03-16-2022 05:28 PM
Has Derek Barnett signed anywhere yet?

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16195391)
Has Derek Barnett signed anywhere yet?
Nope.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16195389)
I think we we’re going to stand pat until Friday when Mahomes can officially restructure.

I feel like that’s what we’re waiting on.
That's not going to clear anywhere NEAR enough money to do what they need to do. It's what, $20M and we have no idea where we stand after the Clark deal.

If they are waiting for that reason alone, oh boy.

FloridaMan88 03-16-2022 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195307)
People sure are putting a lot of stock into old pass rushers that could all easily fall off a cliff at any moment.
The chances that Von Miller will be healthy by December/January is a crap shoot given his history.

Buffalo will have to make him a situational/part time player the first half of the season to ensure that.

O.city 03-16-2022 05:30 PM
https://twitter.com/christomasson/st...550854144?s=21

Dante84 03-16-2022 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16195389)
I think we we’re going to stand pat until Friday when Mahomes can officially restructure.

I feel like that’s what we’re waiting on.
Frank was able to restructure already, so I don't know if that's really what's going on.

I think that there's just a lot of older dudes getting paid and Veach want's no part of it so far. He's aggressive but within his parameters.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195394)
That's not going to clear anywhere NEAR enough money to do what they need to do. It's what, $20M and we have no idea where we stand after the Clark deal.

If they are waiting for that reason alone, oh boy.
Clark had to be at least $11 million to get them under the cap.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:32 PM
Embedding for O.City, no way we're paying for Peterson unless he takes a ridiculously friendly deal.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Free-agent cornerback Patrick Peterson just went on NFL Network and reiterated he wants to re-sign with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings</a>. He also mentioned Kansas City and Dallas as possibilities.</p>&mdash; Chris Tomasson (@christomasson) <a href="https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1504237325550854144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Coochie liquor 03-16-2022 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16195331)
Think Patrick Mahomes is in the Bills' heads at all? LMFAO. $120 million for Von Miller in addition to their last several high draft picks on pass rushers. Just ridiculous!
I wonder if anyone told the Bills that Von has NEVER beaten Mahomes?? 6 more years incoming....

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:33 PM
We’re not waiting on restructures. That is not at all what’s happening.

We’re seeing the early stages of the plan play out, and it isn’t what we thought it was going to be, so people are trying to figure out why it didn’t go the way they thought it would.

The truth is that Veach’s plan isn’t your plan.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16195399)
Frank was able to restructure already, so I don't know if that's really what's going on.

I think that there's just a lot of older dudes getting paid and Veach want's no part of it so far. He's aggressive but within his parameters.
He already said he wasn't going to be very active in the first wave.

Dante84 03-16-2022 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16195397)
If we sign PeePee years after the fact, that would be pretty funny. Other than that, I think he's too old for anything but a one year deal for Brett "Cradle Robber" Veach.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Free-agent cornerback Patrick Peterson just went on NFL Network and reiterated he wants to re-sign with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings</a>. He also mentioned Kansas City and Dallas as possibilities.</p>&mdash; Chris Tomasson (@christomasson) <a href="https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/1504237325550854144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

bigjosh 03-16-2022 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16195397)

Pls no with the yearly patrick peterson thread


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Dante84 03-16-2022 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16195409)
He already said he wasn't going to be very active in the first wave.
I always try to pay close attention to his pressers because he usually doesn't lie.

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16195413)
I always try to pay close attention to his pressers because he usually doesn't lie.
And even though he said he wasn’t going to be very active in the early stages of free agency, he made it pretty clear that he’s going to attack DL.

Everybody just needs to relax. I understand the frustration of having to wait for answers, but they will come.

PattyFlakes 03-16-2022 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195417)
And even though he said he wasn’t going to be very active in the early stages of free agency, he made it pretty clear that he’s going to attack DL.

Everybody just needs to relax. I understand the frustration of having to wait for answers, but they will come.
We go through this every year. Watch other teams sign big dollar free agents and have people bitch that we’re not doing anything.

Dante84 03-16-2022 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PattyFlakes (Post 16195420)
We go through this every year. Watch other teams sign big dollar free agents and have people bitch that we’re not doing anything.
Yep, he's proven he can let his nuts hang when he wants to,

Coochie liquor 03-16-2022 05:40 PM
Lmao at reeruns who think Veach doesn’t have a plan. You ****ing serious? Veach ALWAYS has a plan. And he’s not gonna tell any of us... especially after Clay’s bullshit.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2022 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PattyFlakes (Post 16195420)
We go through this every year. Watch other teams sign big dollar free agents and have people bitch that we’re not doing anything.
I think to DJ's point, the concern is that there have been some reasonable deals - specifically for guys that we were tied to or assumed to be KC's Plan A - and he's sitting it out.

I can't blame those getting antsy when our pass rush sucked LAST year and we're slowing learning that the plan to fix it is likely C-level guys or draftees - who are a complete wild card.

Also, we haven't exactly been hitting our pass rush FA/draft picks out of the park - seems to be one area they struggle with evaluating.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 05:44 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Jaguars have spent two-thirds of what the entire NFC has in free agency <a href="https://t.co/slJi05ij6W">https://t.co/slJi05ij6W</a></p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1504240248620036096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-16-2022 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PattyFlakes (Post 16195420)
We go through this every year. Watch other teams sign big dollar free agents and have people bitch that we’re not doing anything.
It happened last year with Trent Williams. We were ****ing shook after the signing, wondering if Thuney was playing LT full time. Then Brown and the draft happened.

We're fine.

staylor26 03-16-2022 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195425)
I think to DJ's point, the concern is that there have been some reasonable deals - specifically for guys that we were tied to or assumed to be KC's Plan A - and he's sitting it out.

I can't blame those getting antsy when our pass rush sucked LAST year and we're slowing learning that the plan to fix it is likely C-level guys or draftees - who are a complete wild card.

Also, we haven't exactly been hitting our pass rush FA/draft picks out of the park - seems to be one area they struggle with evaluating.
Veach has made 2 significant investment at edge rusher since he’s been here.

1. Speaks - Obviously a huge failure, and a bad evaluation.

2. Frank Clark

The issue with Clark wasn’t “evaluation”. It was a lack of foresight that his body would break down the second he got paid.

Overall, it’s a very small sample size to claim that they struggle with evaluating the position.

O.city 03-16-2022 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16191053)
A bunch of the accounts who pretend to know things about the Chiefs are tweeting gifs of Tyrann Matheiu out, so I'm not sure if that means anything or not, but take that for what it's worth.


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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195425)
I think to DJ's point, the concern is that there have been some reasonable deals - specifically for guys that we were tied to or assumed to be KC's Plan A - and he's sitting it out.

I can't blame those getting antsy when our pass rush sucked LAST year and we're slowing learning that the plan to fix it is likely C-level guys or draftees - who are a complete wild card.

Also, we haven't exactly been hitting our pass rush FA/draft picks out of the park - seems to be one area they struggle with evaluating.
To be fair, they haven’t really attempted to draft pass rushers with picks that are worth much.

It’s time to invest there tho

PattyFlakes 03-16-2022 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16195425)
I think to DJ's point, the concern is that there have been some reasonable deals - specifically for guys that we were tied to or assumed to be KC's Plan A - and he's sitting it out.

I can't blame those getting antsy when our pass rush sucked LAST year and we're slowing learning that the plan to fix it is likely C-level guys or draftees - who are a complete wild card.

Also, we haven't exactly been hitting our pass rush FA/draft picks out of the park - seems to be one area they struggle with evaluating.
I get the concern about the pass rush and that’s valid, I’m more referring to the folks that think Veach doesn’t have some sort of plan for that spot and is just sitting on his hands doing nothing.

TambaBerry 03-16-2022 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16195433)
Veach has made 2 significant investment at edge rusher since he’s been here.

1. Speaks - Obviously a huge failure, and a bad evaluation.

2. Frank Clark

The issue with Clark wasn’t “evaluation”. It was a lack of foresight that his body would break down the second he got paid.

Overall, it’s a very small sample size to claim that they struggle with evaluating the position.
God I wish we got what we thought we were getting when we traded for Clark

RunKC 03-16-2022 05:50 PM
Everyone saw Patrick turn into Matt Cassel in the 2nd half of the Bengals game bc they rushed 4 and dropped literally everybody else into coverage so now they’re building a strong 4 man rush so they can do the same.

It’s too bad our coach is too prideful to run teams out of that in the playoffs


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