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Launch today @ 1:31 Eastern.

It's also the largest single collection of spacecraft to launch in the US

https://www.engadget.com/2018/12/01/...-at-1-31pm-et/

Looks like we're delayed one day. They're also scheduled to launch to ISS from the east coast on Tuesday. It'll be interesting to see if they can handle a 24 hour turnaround.

Boooo. I was finally going to get to watch one.

Launch coming up in 20 minutes!

Fun trivia. This is the first time they've used a booster three times. This one has previously launched from each of the east coast sites, so it's now launched from all three of SpaceX's sites.

Wow. Live video of the booster landing on the drone ship from some other ship. Super cool.

Just watched the replay.

Amazing stuff.

Any word on netting the faring?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Falcon fairing halves missed the net, but touched down softly in the water. Mr Steven is picking them up. Plan is to dry them out &amp; launch again. Nothing wrong with a little swim.</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1069679948103847939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So...maybe they've figured out some steps to take to make it kinda sorta waterproof? :shrug:

Another launch tomorrow at about the same time FWIW.

If it's soft enough to not break them, and they're they can deal with water, I guess it's all good.

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Today's launch is bumped 24 hours.

ISS-bound launch coming up in an hour.

Booster landing at the Cape, right?

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Yep.

T-7 minutes!

These experiments are hilarious.

I was just looking at their missions, and they aren't going to do another heavy before they do the first BFR?

Next FH launch is expected to be Arabsat-6. Currently NET January, but I'd guess it'll slip from that a bit. I'd imagine FH will fly about 4-5 times before BFS.

I still get goosebumps...

LMAO

Ahh..I was searching for heavy, I see the FH now.

Great video

Uh oh

Ummmm...

The hell is going on?

yeah, that didn't look good

Water landing!

LMAO

haha, I was wondering when it started spinning, I hadn't ever seen that happen before and then the video cut out.

Obviously a major malfunction.

And the crowd cheered...

LMAO

Well, I guess it's good that they can abort the landing safely. I wonder if that'll scare anyone regarding the landings on land.

At that point, I think anything other than "blew up and destroyed a bunch of important stuff" is a win.

Well, it DID land at the Cape. Just not on land.

I'm not sure I agree. How many successful consecutive landings, both on drone ships and land, have there been until now?

Re-use of the first stage is the cornerstone of SpaceX.

You learn more from a failure than you do from a success. Whatever happened on this one will be what helps it from not happening again.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First stage has lost control. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SpaceX</a> <a href="https://t.co/0yiQQCOAd0">pic.twitter.com/0yiQQCOAd0</a></p>&mdash; Michael Baylor (@nextspaceflight) <a href="https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1070383431123722240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Sure. Just don't think you can call this a win. It could have been worse, as DaFace pointed out.

Grid fin.

Good video of it here. Looks like it ALMOST got back in control even with the stuck grid fin.

https://clips.twitch.tv/CleverSpineyEggPrimeMe

Yeah, it looks like it. The re-entry burn was over by the time the malfunction took place, right?

I think you missed the "at that point" part. Once it's out of control, safety becomes the priority. Obviously they aren't happy with the loss of a booster, but Elon once estimated they could get 70-80% back, and they're way above that.

Okay, that's just ****ing amazing...

Have they confirmed a stuck fin?

She sure tried.

Indeed, I did.

I wonder how deep the water was?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Grid fin hydraulic pump stalled, so Falcon landed just out to sea. Appears to be undamaged &amp; is transmitting data. Recovery ship dispatched.</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070386062164283392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes, cutaway was a mistake. We will show all footage, good or bad.</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070386554068119553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I wonder if that was planned? An abort out to sea instead of land.

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At least partially, yes. Both at land and at sea, the booster comes down aiming just a little off of the landing site, then kicks over at the last minute if everything looks good. That's what happened with the FH center core.

Neat.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We may use it for an internal SpaceX mission</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070387162892259329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pump is single string. Some landing systems are not redundant, as landing is considered ground safety critical, but not mission critical. Given this event, we will likely add a backup pump &amp; lines.</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070388894875545600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Wow.

I can't believe the amount of information he gives out freely.

It's just the way he is. Unfortunately, it sometimes gets him into trouble (cough...funding secured...cough).

Just for the record, I'm 90% sure that they also have an in-flight abort system built into the booster. If something went really wrong and it was about to cause a safety issue, I'm pretty sure it'll just blow itself to smithereens.

Someone post the video of the landing once it's available. That'll be epic.

On my phone, but here's the video.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Engines stabilized rocket spin just in time, enabling an intact landing in water! Ships en route to rescue Falcon. <a href="https://t.co/O3h8eCgGJ7">pic.twitter.com/O3h8eCgGJ7</a></p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070399755526656000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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LMAO

Thanks. Those engines must have been gimballing like crazy.

4-5 Feet. I fish for Sharks, Tarpon and Triple Tail in the same area.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tracking shot of Falcon water landing <a href="https://t.co/6Hv2aZhLjM">pic.twitter.com/6Hv2aZhLjM</a></p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070446975642812416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I would never have imagined that it would float. Shallow water for sure as it clearly hit the seabed.

Pretty cool for a failed landing.

After the first burn the rocket dropped spinning, almost like if you spun your index finger in a circle. When the second burn lit the rocket couldn't straighten out, it stayed at an eleven o'clock position as it hit the water.

Here's a cool diagram from a while back that shows the whole "aim for the water unless everything looks good" thing in case anyone's having trouble picturing it.

https://i.imgur.com/D9BdO86.png

In case you've always wanted to see a rocket turned into a barge.

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Not sure where else to post this but I thought it was pretty cool.

Actual sound of wind sent back by InSight on Mars. First noise from another planet that I know of.

Not sure how to directly embed. It's about a page and a half down on this URL.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/07/li...nsight-lander/

Interesting.. Sorry if Q..

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Launch tomorrow morning (Tuesday) at 9:10am Eastern. No landing attempt (and no legs) due to an intense mission. High profile launch with a GPS satellite. But assuming all goes well, it'll be pretty mundane to watch.

How does that happen? Payload weight alone?

Payload weight + target orbit. Most satellites go to LEO (low earth orbit), which really isn't that far up there. This one's going to MEO (medium earth orbit), which is way further out.

http://www.rfwireless-world.com/imag...GEO-orbits.jpg

Ah, makes perfect sense. Thank you.

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East or West coast launch?

East coast. In a hold at the moment, so we'll see if they launch today after all.

Now scrubbed. Lots of non SpaceX launches today, though, if anyone cares to hunt them down.

Giving it another try in the morning if anyone is interested.

Time? Sorry, lazy.

Takes two clicks in the OP, but 855am on the east coast.

Thanks. And I won't ever ask again.

Scrubbed again this morning due to weather. Hopefully they can go tomorrow morning. Roughly the same time.

In more interesting news, they've shifted the BFR/BFS (now called Falcon Super Heavy and Starship, respectively) from a carbon fiber design to using some sort of stainless steel alloy. The "hopper" version is officially under construction, and Elon hopes to have a full update on it in March or April.

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In theory, we're on again in 15 minutes. This has to be nearing the record for number of scrubs.

No scrub - she's off!