The douche is right. The Big 8 and SWC were talking about a full on merger of the 16 teams, but ABC said they would only pay a certain amount so 4 heads were eliminated from the pot.

Talking about the school and athletic program. You drop Texas into any other of the conferences and they are the major gorilla.

A&M had to essentially be bribed to stay out of the SEC and I thought Texas was fielding offers from the Pac 10.

Were there ever any active proposals to bring them all or was that just something that was spitballed? Like I said, my memory was that it took a hell of a lot of effort just to get Baylor and Tech included once they finally started making formal movements for inclusion.

I don't think so.

I think he's right, they'd be a major gorilla. But I don't see them pushing USC around in the PAC, nor do I see them dictating terms to Alabama or Florida in the SEC.

Oh they'd have huge influence, but I don't think it would be hegemonic, as it is in the Big 12.

?? I thought Bevo was the overlord?

Try again next year, it's basketball season.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...85/1/index.htm

http://www.tulsaworld.com/archives/n...50baf17fd.html

http://newsok.com/swc-presidents-vot...rticle/2411704

http://www.questia.com/library/1P2-3...s-kiesler-wary

Nobody gives a shit about hoops till they have money on the line with their brackets.

This.

They just said during the Cotton Bowl that Mizzou beat 4 ranked foes during its run to win the SEC East....Prison Bitch has assured us that Mizzou has not beaten any ranked SEC opponents....is PB's computer broken?

Nationally televised prime time game....nice. Not seeing much difference between this and a fruit bowl.

Exposed as a clueless moron yet again.

Dude, they're trying to build up the game. Just be glad they didn't list any of them.

Why? They were all quality wins. Of course, being a KU fan, you do not really know what one of those looks like.

Now it's basketball season.

Some programs still play football games that matter in December/January.

Fortunately, all we missed was a month or so of basketball that ultimately has no bearing whatsoever on how the season shakes out.

Well, I think finishing in the top 5 this season is a result I'll take.

It's nice when all the local football schools get a football bowl win

Yup. College basketball is relevant to most people right around March or so.

After the game they said Mizzou has beaten five ranked teams this year. What is your excuse for that?

The first weekend of the tournament is the busiest time for vasectomies. There is a remarkable amount of symbolism there.

With that...I'm officially done talking shit on/about the Big 12 and its teams.

Good luck to you. It's been two years, and and we settled it on the field.

It's probably time to bury this re-alignment butthurt. The rivalry with Kansas is multiple years in the rearview mirror now. We are building something new and better. Why continue to revisit the past?

Because there is hope that one day cooler heads will prevail and this rivalry will be renewed. It was one of the best in all college sports and needs to come back.

http://blog.formstack.com/wp-content...op-the-mic.gif

It's been real, Big 12.

Yup we have put a nail in the big bevo coffin. It has been settled and we are victorious.

No doubt. Some pivotal games this weekend.

Nice winning a glorified BCS game. Primeime nationally televised. Better coverage than the fruit bowl to boot.

Are there really people (regardless of school) who seriously don't get pumped or enjoy March Madness?

March Madness is cool. The tedious build up to it isn't.

I can get behind that.

Plus, the play-in games and first four. Sigh.

$$$$$$

It wasn't nationally relevant like Ohio State vs Michigan or Florida vs. Florida State.

I could care less if ku and Mizzou ever play again. They're only relevant in the 3-4 months of college basketball and that's about it.

Time to build up hate against Arky.

One of these years I'm going to take a Vegas vacation for the first few days of the Tournament. That shit would be fun.

This has been discussed around here for 2015.

Bachelor party/dirty 30 birthday.

You're in, lol.

Heh, a ChiefsPlanet gathering in Vegas for the tournament. Sounds like a blast, for sure. What could possibly go wrong?

We'll have to make sure Dartgod and Nzoner are with us so they can pull Carlota into this mess with us.

I feel the same way, don't care if we ever play them again. They can have fun being the doormat of a lesser conference and seeing their primary rival turn the stadium purple every year.

Easier said than done. Not sure why people think rivalries can just form out of the blue.

I think that I hate South Carolina the most out of our new division opponents.

We had a mini get together there in September to watch the Chiefs beat Dallas.

Dartgod was there - he's pretty godly and Carlota was nice enough to hook us up. I'd imagine she would make the next.

Missouri isn't relevant during college basketball season. Arky isn't relevant during either season.

basketball isn't relevant during basketball season (until March).

I was confused by that statement too.

KU beats MU in football 50% of the time they play. In basketball obviously KU dominates so I am curious on why such a post would be written.

I actually am surprised to hear that Arkansas still plays sports. That's cute.

Flagship Big 12 school beats the shit out of the flagship SEC school.

And we haven't even got to bball season yet.

But good post. LMAO

yay, basketball.

Iowa State is #1 in BPI right now.

The most recent cotton bowl winning school from the big 12 is also the most recent winner from the SEC

MIZZOU in case you were confused about that

It is nice how the end of our football season coincides with the start of conference basketball, for people who use basketball to get them through the offseason.

And UNI all but handled them in Des Moines.

Blake Bortles is entering the draft.

North Carolina out rebounded Wake 36-14 in the first half...and trailed by two.

Mizzou won the SEC-East, which Sagarin ranked higher than the big "12." Doesn't that suggest that Mizzou should have beaten Okie Lite? Wasn't that the expected outcome?

If you look really close, he rates teams individually too. To answer your other question no, his data had Okie by 1.5 which is where the spread ended up last I heard.

Sagarin = genious

Bettors think so.

What? The computers were wrong you say? How can that be?

Mizzou only had a better record against better opponents than Okie Light and won their division in the toughest conference in the country...guess the computers must have miscalculated that.

His system also thought Alabama was better than OU.

Dumbass.

Howso? Did you watch the game?

So, he was only 11.5 points off (and incorrect on the winner). How far was he off on OU/Alabama?

Of course not.

We only returned two guys from last years rotation and came from behind in several games this year. Good teams you know, come back and win.

Will only get better as they play together more.

Well, since my Google works I can look that up for you. His data expected Alabama to win by 14.3. The Vegas line opened at 14.5 and was pushed up to 16.5. So both Sagarin + the oddsmakers + the public were all incorrect thinking Alabama was better.

http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/n...as-lines-total

That's a lot of verbiage to say that he was off by more than four touchdowns.

You were off by more than 4td on that one I'm sure.

<table class="wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter"><thead><tr><th title="Sort ascending" role="columnheader button" tabindex="0" class="headerSort">Conference</th> <th title="Sort ascending" role="columnheader button" tabindex="0" class="headerSort">Total games</th> <th title="Sort ascending" role="columnheader button" tabindex="0" class="headerSort">Wins</th> <th title="Sort ascending" role="columnheader button" tabindex="0" class="headerSort">Losses</th> <th title="Sort ascending" role="columnheader button" tabindex="0" class="headerSort">Pct.</th> </tr></thead><tbody> <tr align="center"> <td>Sun Belt</td> <td>2</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>1.000</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>SEC</td> <td>10*</td> <td>7</td> <td>2</td> <td>.778</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>Independents</td> <td>3</td> <td>2</td> <td>1</td> <td>.667</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>Pac-12</td> <td>9</td> <td>6</td> <td>3</td> <td>.667</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>Big 12</td> <td>6</td> <td>3</td> <td>3</td> <td>.500</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>C-USA</td> <td>6</td> <td>3</td> <td>3</td> <td>.500</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>MW</td> <td>6</td> <td>3</td> <td>3</td> <td>.500</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>American</td> <td>5</td> <td>2</td> <td>3</td> <td>.400</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>ACC</td> <td>11*</td> <td>4</td> <td>6</td> <td>.400</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>Big Ten</td> <td>7</td> <td>2</td> <td>5</td> <td>.286</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td>MAC</td> <td>5</td> <td>0</td> <td>5</td> <td>.000
</td></tr></tbody></table>
*Still has 1 bowl left.

I don't have a website devoted to my handicapping, nor do I have idiots on the Internet running around pretending that my every word is the gospel. That said, no...I had OU and the points in that game. I didn't think they would win outright, though.

:thumb:

I didn't realize the ACC had 11 bowl teams.

Of course not, nobody would read it.

I'm sure you would be too busy reading Tigerboard.

The SEC has, once again, clinched the best record in non conference play for the 2013-14 season.

SEC 54-11. 83.1%
PAC 37-9. 80.4%
B1G 39-16. 70.9%
Big 12 25-11. 69.4%
ACC 45-21. 68.2%


The outcome of tonight's game will not impact the standings in terms of out of conference winning percentages, but a Florida State win would probably bump them up a spot in terms of perception.

Mangino hired as ISU oc. Good hire, IMO.

Just saw this

LMAO

He will rape KU next fall

We have Mangino as OC, the Nevada OC when they invented the pistol and had 3 1,000 rushers in one season then went to Arkansas as OL coach under Petrino as our OL coach, and the old Washington State OC who had them at #9 in passing offense as our WR coach.

Shits about to get real. We have the young talent that got some experience this year.

Raping KU isn't exactly a tall task.

True, but I'm sure he is looking forward to his revenge

After a season or two watch him land at k state ROFL

Well, good for Mangino. There's no question he's a good coach, maybe that whole episode was the reality check he needed to become even better than he was.

The school (KU) complained he was too hard on the players didn't they?

In part. They also claimed he was a loose cannon in public (kicked out of his sons HS football game at Free State) and belligerent to other AD and university employees. This may or may not be true, just that it was cited.