You know that's the wrong play, right? It was a stupid throw.

He threw deep into double coverage when he had the first down over the middle.

Your fascination with the deep ball at the expense of all other things football is just odd. It also pretty well confirms that you were only a Geno fan because everyone else was. Geno was very much an underneath passer.

EDIT: Yeah, I see this has been addressed.

He puts it over the middle, the Chiefs are in the red zone with a new set of downs. Figures that mongoloids like Clay and this sweet daddy hate half-wit are applauding him for ****ing up.

Maybe we are excited because we have someone on the roster that can and will take shots. Sorry,15 years of checkdowns its starting to ****ing wear thin.

This.

It's a ****ing preseason game. Not like it was some curcial moment in a game that decides the fate of our post-season.

I would love to see him go deep every play during the preseason...because you arent going to see anything beyond 15 yards during the regular season. So enjoy it while you can...

I'm starting to understand why many of you hated the Geno fans. You're making me want to root against this kid.

Seriously - do you have any concept of how stupid this sounds?

"Sure, he had an easy first down inside the redzone and instead chose to try an impossible throw that he couldn't execute if given 10 attempts at it...but hey DEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!"

Bray fell in the draft precisely because of stupid throws like that. If Bray fails at this level it will be precisely because of stupid throws like that. If he continues to try to throw deep balls off his back foot into double coverage (nevermind having an easy first down available), he'll lead us to many a 5-11 season.

What you're seeing in that clip is why Bray won't be active this season unless Smith gets injured. It's something that any competent HC will plead with him to stop !@#$ing doing.

And of course you folks are celebrating it.

It was a bad read, but at least we know he is actually looking down field. Something Cassell didn't do and Alice doesn't do. The read's are correctable, but I like the aggressive nature he has. That's not something correctable IMO.

You make good points.

/Preseason.

ROFL That gif does crack me up though!

god forbid a rookie undrafted free agent make a bad read. you know what he did do right? he put the ball away from the defenders.

nobody on here is saying the kid is perfect right now.

what we are saying is that we are pleased with the possibility that we may have a qb that can make downfield throws and actually has the testicular fortitude to ****ing try it.

Deep is 25 yards?ROFL

I didn't say deep, I said downfield. there is a ****ing difference reerun.

http://i.imgur.com/QjVj1.gif

that check down would have been snuffed out quickly. Maybe a 4 yard pick up. It's first down and Bray is making it known he's not afraid to go deep. The ball was not intercepted and he was basically throwing it in the only playce the WR could catch it. The pass ended up out of bounds so no big deal.

But he got the defense thinking. Plus, he made that throw off his back foot with a DT in his grill.

I'm not saying he should make this a habit. But he's gonna give the other team something to think about.

When you are comparing to Smith/Cassell it sure seems like it.

Compared to what I've been watching these past few seasons I consider Bray's pass a bomb.

Why do you say that? If Draughn catches it, he has a clear path to the sideline to his right. All he has to do is outrun a MLB to the corner with the far side of the field to work with.

I honestly think he could've easily taken that inside the 15 down near the 10.

And the problem with the throw is that there was no real way for that WR to catch it. If he puts that ball in play, 25 can cut under the route for the pick. The only way that ball could've been caught is if he flips it out there and the WR does that Chris Carter toe stop and fall out of bounds. A) There are damn few WRs that can make that catch, B) There are very few QBs that can make that throw and C) there are zero that can make that throw with any regularity with a defender in their face.

It was just a really bad decision. This "well at least he tried" bullshit is nonsense. He tried that over and over again at Tennessee and went undrafted for those efforts. The NFL gives zero ****s about trying - they want results. The result of this play was bad and the result of that play will be that bad or worse 9 times out of 10.

1. I say that because there are two defenders (you can only see one of them) within 5 yards of Draughns and had Bray dumped it off they would have closed quickly. Sure, you can guess that it would have been a decent pick up but more likely, it would have been 4-5 yards or so.

2. Meh, you are speculating now. Like I said, Bray threw the ball to the outside so as to make it hard to intercept. He put too much mustard on it anyway and it was an incomplete pass. It was 1st down and if you are going to take a shot down field, that's the best down to try (basic football 101). Like I said, he at least got the defense thinking about the possibility of TD. He loosened them up a little on that play.

3. It's preseason dude. Who gives a rip if he goes downfield and it ends up as an incomplete pass? He didn't throw an INT. You really need to loosen up yourself, it's PRE-SEASON.

I'm not fired up about it one way or the other; it was honestly little more than a blip on my radar.

I just think it's funny that we're posting hosannas here about what was an inconsequential play at best, but really more likely something that Reid went over with Bray on Sunday and said "hey kid, don't do that again".

Where was the 2nd defender, BTW? I think that side of the field had been vacated by the deep route. It was actually a very cleverly designed play that opened up that area and gave him to the 8 yard line or so, IMO. You can watch the camera pan up and over - there's not another defender out there. If there were, it would only be if the RCB dropped into a cover-2 short zone, but that clearly didn't happen on the other side of the defense (you can see the whole field up there and how the DBs reacted to the double move).

Nah, I don't buy it. Draughn had a ton of space to work with there. Pre-season or no, you practice how you play and that was a bad play from Tyler Bray.

There's definitely two defenders withing striking distance of Draughn, keep watching the giff. It would have definitely been the "safe" play to dump it off to Draugh but with the DT in Bray's face he may not have seen Draughn anyway. Regardless, the best time to take a shot down field is FIRST DOWN and Bray took a shot. We can argue this all day long but I'm gonna disagree with you because unlike YOU, I actually know what decent QB play looks like. Bray didn't throw an INT so no harm, no foul.

You have no idea what Reid said to Bray after this series (this was first down). He may have very well said something along the lines of "gutsy play kid, I don't mind you taking shots down the field but just don't throw off your back foot, make sure you step into the throw first, otherwise you're asking for problems, but this is stuff we can work on in practice...."

We will probably disagree on coaching too lol.

Reid Ferrin ‏@KCChiefs_Reid 4h
Bray to Bellamy in the back corner for the score, meanwhile, J Powe with a the great inside move, winning the rep

Bray with great placement in back of endzone to a diving Demetrius Harris. Ball popped out as he got the ground. #ChiefsCamp


Get your dick socks ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unlike me, you also know what a reckless dipshit under center can do to your chances to excel. The Chiefs QBs have just generally been bad, I'll give you that. But they've never been aggressive to the point of stupid.

That was a throw that Jake Plummer or Jay Cutler on their worst days tries to make. And that's not a throw that Peyton Manning would've tried.

I can think of one QB in football right now that actually tries that throw in the regular season. When Tyler Bray is 1/2 the QB that Aaron Rodgers is, I'll let him make it. But when Bray's #1 problem coming out of school was decisionmaking, it's absolutely germane to point out that he just made a poor decision with the football.

If Bray was a first round pick, I might agree. But he's not. There's plenty of time for Bray to learn and when he does stuff like this it's nothing more than a coaching opportunity for the staff.

Obviously we disagree on how to coach.

man this Rico Richardson guy must be fast lol, he always seems to be on the receiving end of stuff in camp

I'm liking this Rico Richardson kid...

Long hair guy, made a few nice catches in garbage time right? Snagged one, but was barely out of bounds?

going to contain my excitement for Bray until next preseason


hopefully then he will be ready to REALLY push for a starting job

I wouldn't plan on Bray contending for a starting job next season, not after Smith gets a big fat extension.

He'll make a push to dethrone that bum we have as #2 for backup.

The butthurt for Bray's deep balls is epic.

Yeah, that's what she said

It's funny that we may have gotten the best QB in the draft without using a draft pick on him. If it turns out that way it'll be something that's talked about for a long time. We're due that's for damn sure.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Chiefs ended up trading him in a couple years. If he does turn out to be something they are bound to **** it all up. I mean, when was the last time they did anything right?

I know it's scary huh. Kind of like the Royals going on an f'in tear but only to have the other teams their fighting a playoff spot for to also be on a tear. Just let this happen please!!! Lol

He didn't look great in the game . Probably against Agnew...
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This until proven otherwise.

Chiefs are going to cut agnew, and suddenly the TC reports on Bray will equalize.

Yep, Bray's only success has been against Agnew and once he's cut he will start evening out. Even after the Chiefs break camp while no more updates will be provided it probably will happen. Seems legit. :)

My Bray jersey better get here this week...

I saw what you saw and said as much yesterday.

The kids only chance is to learn to take what the defense gives him a lot more than he wants to while also using that cannon once or twice a half to keep defenders out of the box.

Forcing deep passes into double coverage isn't gonna get him on the field in a WCO.

ROFL

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs711m
Chase Daniel with the under thrown deep ball. Vince Agnew with the INT. #Chiefs

Jason Madson‏@Jason_Madson1m
He's up next. RT @mr_tomahawk: @Jason_Madson How is Bray looking today?

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Daniel with a deep ball to Devon Wylie on the 9 route. Hits him in stride. Wylie drops it in the endzone. (Best deep ball from Daniel)

Jason Madson‏@Jason_Madson52s
Bray in at QB. Sacked by Josh Martin first play. #ChiefsCamp

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs7137s
Bray to Toben Opurum on the slant route. #Chiefs

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs719s
Bray with a good ball to Frankie Hammond on the deep in. #Chiefs

Jason Madson‏@Jason_Madson21s
Bray with a beautiful ball to Hammond down the sideline. #ChiefsCamp

Updates people! Come on!

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...-on-tyler-bray


ST. JOSEPH, Mo. -- The biggest knock on Tyler Bray when he entered the NFL out of Tennessee was questions about his preparation and playbook study.

It is a primary reason why the strong-armed Bray went undrafted and signed with the Kansas City Chiefs as a free agent.

However, preparation may no longer be an issue for Bray. Kansas City coach Andy Reid credits those around Bray for helping bring him a long.

“We have a very smart quarterback room,” Reid said Tuesday. “Alex Smith sees everything at the line of scrimmage and he is a very smart quarterback. So are Chase (Daniel) and Ricky Stanzi. They are smart guys. It is unbelievable how far Tyler has come along working with those guys.”

Bray has looked good in training camp and he is currently leading Stanzi in the race to be the No. 3 quarterback. Unless he totally bombs in the rest of the preseason, it would be an upset if Bray doesn’t stay on the 53-man roster because of his long-term potential.

Credit goes to him for challenging himself and working on the mental side of the game since joining the Chiefs.

Not a lot to update today. Bray and stanzi both got one snap each per drill today.

Just keep working, kid.

Bray could really pull our sorry asses from the fire one day.

Somebody has to do it because Alex sure in the hell won't.

If we could just splice Bray and Smith, we would have the perfect quarterback.

Breed them!

And your starting QB for the KC Chiefs...Talex Spray!!!!!

To the ship!

Pig and elephant DNA just won't spice

FOCUS!

Why would we want an immature QB with no arm?

Which splice would we get? The Matthew Stafford version or the Brodie Croyle version?

Sounds legit. :hmmm:

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Did you order the jersey from a Nigerian prince?

Nah,

My long lost brother I never knew about hooked me up...

ROFL ROFL

Bitches love the Bray.

Bitches don't love the Smiff.

Ok Photoshop pros, we need to replace Adam in the painting "The Creation of Adam" with Bray. Get to it!!!

In case you are wondering what painting I am refering too see the link below;

http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/htm...m/06_3ce6.html

Who the hell still has a Cassel jersey?

1st Alternate Pro-Bowl QB dude!!!! Rep that shit blondie!

These people...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2n66pf.jpg

Bleh

BRAY ALL DAY!!!

Bray is scared to take a hit. Just like college, he turtles up in the face of pressure.

Could have put a stamp on the 3rd spot with that drive.
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Oh Tyler.

Put a stamp on a 3rd spot? Did you even see Stanzi tonight?

UDFA

Stanzi is better right now.

Bray was awesome again tonight right guys. 3 and outs but at least no turnover this time right! The future woo!

Meh...he did as much as smith and Daniels in less time. Let the kid get into some sort of rhythm.

Lol.

Good one handjob.