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eDave 01-26-2020 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14753062)
Instead of his step back jump shot celebration, Mahomes should do that patented Kobe turnaround fade-away at the Super Bowl
Bet he does. He's cool like that.

Titty Meat 01-26-2020 07:48 PM
**** TMZ

https://twitter.com/ScottFeinberg/st...262247427?s=19

Titty Meat 01-26-2020 07:50 PM
Look at this reerun

Ashley Tippin
4 mins ·
Am I the only one who remembers when Kobe Bryant was on TRIAL for the rape of a young woman that his team so mercilessly slut shamed and raked over the coals to the point where she dropped the charges and went into hiding? No love lost here. ��*♀️

eDave 01-26-2020 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14753069)
Look at this reerun

Ashley Tippin
4 mins ·
Am I the only one who remembers when Kobe Bryant was on TRIAL for the rape of a young woman that his team so mercilessly slut shamed and raked over the coals to the point where she dropped the charges and went into hiding? No love lost here. ��*♀️
You should see the Reddit threads...

Buehler445 01-26-2020 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 14753064)
I can say without a doubt, helicopter crashes ****ing suck. A lot. A whole ****ing lot.


Also Blackhawks have been designed to fall from like 40-60 feet straight to the ground and keep the passengers safe from injuries. Something between the suspension on the bird and the suspension seats inside.

Edit: the blades will spin if you are moving forward fast enough, from my experience if you are just holding in place. Then the blades shit out, not much spinning from them.
I know next to nothing about copters, I'll yield to the experts.

Megatron96 01-26-2020 07:54 PM
The main issues with private aircraft isn't the aircraft itself; it's the pilots. The vast majority of private pilots don't train for emergency situations often enough, if at all. Professional pilots train for all manner of emergencies regularly.

So when something goes wrong for a private pilot there's usually the "oh shit!" moment, which can last several minutes in the worst cases. Which is usually how those pilots crash. But even if they only freak out for ten seconds, that often can be the difference between surviving and not. Professional pilots train for emergencies, so when something goes awry, it takes just a few seconds to assess and evaluate the issue, and then decide on a course of action and run through our memory items. We call this process an OODA loop (google it). Most private pilots don't have this system instilled in their muscle memory, as it were.

There's also the issue of maintenance, and private pilots tend to have a lower expectation of what is proper maintenance than what a commercial operation would. But at this point we don't know exactly what the real issue was, so I can't comment on that in this case.

I also don't know anything about the pilot, but I would think that Kobe Bryant would have a highly experienced pilot for his helo. The results of the NTSB's investigation will be interesting.

Raiderhater 01-26-2020 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14753048)
I talked to my Dad about this today and how much more comfortable I'd be in a plane than copter on engine failure. He told me he had the same conversation with the FAA guy that certified grandpa's planes. The FAA guy said, "no, the blades are an airfoil. As air moves across it, they'll turn. You're going down, but you'll have control. I gave Dad this super skeptical :BS: kind of look, but WTF do I know, he may be right.
I guess there is some kind of logic behind it but, not enough for me to prefer a falling chopper to a parachute. It might give you some control but, how much does it really slow you down?

Give me the ‘chute every time.

TLO 01-26-2020 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14753069)
Look at this reerun

Ashley Tippin
4 mins ·
Am I the only one who remembers when Kobe Bryant was on TRIAL for the rape of a young woman that his team so mercilessly slut shamed and raked over the coals to the point where she dropped the charges and went into hiding? No love lost here. ��*♀️
I remember that. The circumstances are still awful though.

eDave 01-26-2020 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14753076)
The main issues with private aircraft isn't the aircraft itself; it's the pilots. The vast majority of private pilots don't train for emergency situations often enough, if at all. Professional pilots train for all manner of emergencies regularly.

So when something goes wrong for a private pilot there's usually the "oh shit!" moment, which can last several minutes in the worst cases. Which is usually how those pilots crash. But even if they only freak out for ten seconds, that often can be the difference between surviving and not. Professional pilots train for emergencies, so when something goes awry, it takes just a few seconds to assess and evaluate the issue, and then decide on a course of action and run through our memory items. We call this process an OODA loop (google it). Most private pilots don't have this system instilled in their muscle memory, as it were.

There's also the issue of maintenance, and private pilots tend to have a lower expectation of what is proper maintenance than what a commercial operation would. But at this point we don't know exactly what the real issue was, so I can't comment on that in this case.

I also don't know anything about the pilot, but I would think that Kobe Bryant would have a highly experienced pilot for his helo. The results of the NTSB's investigation will be interesting.
Exactly why I don't fly. I'd be dead.

displacedinMN 01-26-2020 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14753067)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LA County Sheriff rightly slams TMZ for breaking the Kobe news before his family could be informed. They are a despicable organization.</p>&mdash; Scott Feinberg (@ScottFeinberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottFeinberg/status/1221563310262247427?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Raiderhater 01-26-2020 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14753059)
No they're just trolling you.
LMAO Perfect.

Demonpenz 01-26-2020 07:56 PM
When Kansas's plane blew up because they threw a stool or whatever in one of the engines earlier this year the drivers were so cool about it lol

Demonpenz 01-26-2020 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 14753077)
I guess there is some kind of logic behind it but, not enough for me to prefer a falling chopper to a parachute. It might give you some control but, how much does it really slow you down?

Give me the ‘chute every time.
Again. It's really a thing you do to get your lic.

TLO 01-26-2020 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14753076)
The main issues with private aircraft isn't the aircraft itself; it's the pilots. The vast majority of private pilots don't train for emergency situations often enough, if at all. Professional pilots train for all manner of emergencies regularly.

So when something goes wrong for a private pilot there's usually the "oh shit!" moment, which can last several minutes in the worst cases. Which is usually how those pilots crash. But even if they only freak out for ten seconds, that often can be the difference between surviving and not. Professional pilots train for emergencies, so when something goes awry, it takes just a few seconds to assess and evaluate the issue, and then decide on a course of action and run through our memory items. We call this process an OODA loop (google it). Most private pilots don't have this system instilled in their muscle memory, as it were.

There's also the issue of maintenance, and private pilots tend to have a lower expectation of what is proper maintenance than what a commercial operation would. But at this point we don't know exactly what the real issue was, so I can't comment on that in this case.

I also don't know anything about the pilot, but I would think that Kobe Bryant would have a highly experienced pilot for his helo. The results of the NTSB's investigation will be interesting.
I'm asking this question out of sheer curiosity, as I have no idea how situations like this work.

Is it possible to do a toxicology test in a crash like this?

eDave 01-26-2020 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14753084)
I'm asking this question out of sheer curiosity, as I have no idea how situations like this work.

Is it possible to do a toxicology test in a crash like this?
Yup.


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