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RockChalk 04-08-2014 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 10547669)
So, I went to bed before Infante was hit because I'm old. Did the pitch get away from him or was there intent? Cassel supporting Bob Fescoe was blasting Bell this morning for it, so I'm just wondering.

Maybe I was just angry after he hit Infante, but the pitch was a fastball that started at Infante and tailed inside. Looked intentional to me.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-08-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 10547682)
Maybe I was just angry after he hit Infante, but the pitch was a fastball that started at Infante and tailed inside. Looked intentional to me.

It was a two-seamer that got away from him. On replay, you could clearly see him losing his grip on it as he let go. No way that was intentional.

And considering Bell's post game comments, it was obvious he felt really bad about it.

KCUnited 04-08-2014 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 10547682)
Maybe I was just angry after he hit Infante, but the pitch was a fastball that started at Infante and tailed inside. Looked intentional to me.

I heard Bell's post game, he said it was supposed to be a sinker that he didn't finish and it ran up. He said he's friends with Infante and sent him his thoughts and prayers. The KC radio guys were insinuating intent, but you never know if they are just trying to stir the pot for listeners. I've yet to see it.

duncan_idaho 04-08-2014 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10547665)
So, Colon or Johnny G?

Jason Donald?

Archie F. Swin 04-08-2014 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10547689)
Jason Donald?

let's not bring logic into this...

duncan_idaho 04-08-2014 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10547701)
let's not bring logic into this...

Can't help it...

Donald played really well during the spring and gives them a legitimate backup at SS. Not sure how much they believe in his bat.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned the biggest problem with Infante being hurt... the itch you known Ned is getting to bat Alcides Escobar 2nd.

RockChalk 04-08-2014 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10547735)
Can't believe nobody has mentioned the biggest problem with Infante being hurt... the itch you known Ned is getting to bat Alcides Escobar 2nd.

SSJ, Nate and Bluma talked about that this morning. You know that's where he'll be in the order tonight

nychief 04-08-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10547735)
Can't help it...

Donald played really well during the spring and gives them a legitimate backup at SS. Not sure how much they believe in his bat.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned the biggest problem with Infante being hurt... the itch you known Ned is getting to bat Alcides Escobar 2nd.


donald would be fine if this is a short term thing...but if infante is missing a month or more - think you need a replacement that can swing the bat a little bit.

I'd love to finally see what the **** is up with Colon.

Archie F. Swin 04-08-2014 08:19 AM

Coincidentally, Donald was the last Royal I saw hit a home run.

duncan_idaho 04-08-2014 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 10547783)
donald would be fine if this is a short term thing...but if infante is missing a month or more - think you need a replacement that can swing the bat a little bit.

I'd love to finally see what the **** is up with Colon.

He's a terrible bust (that was a "need" pick) that is made worse by the fact they were planning to draft Sale until about 15 minutes before their pick.

I don't know there's much else up with Colon.

(Seriously, though, he did hit well down the stretch in Omaha, and I'd much rather see him hitting 2 than Escobar)

Nightfyre 04-08-2014 08:35 AM

I don't get need picks in baseball. You literally have so many sources for obtaining the right pieces at the major league level and you are projecting so far out. Take the best prospect you can sign.

ChiTown 04-08-2014 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10547819)
He's a terrible bust (that was a "need" pick) that is made worse by the fact they were planning to draft Sale until about 15 minutes before their pick.

I don't know there's much else up with Colon.

(Seriously, though, he did hit well down the stretch in Omaha, and I'd much rather see him hitting 2 than Escobar)

I just threw up..............:doh!:

duncan_idaho 04-08-2014 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10547831)
I don't get need picks in baseball. You literally have so many sources for obtaining the right pieces at the major league level and you are projecting so far out. Take the best prospect you can sign.

To slightly defend the front office... which I've done before on that pick... the 2010 draft had 3 clear players who were a cut above everyone else (Manny Machado, Jameson Taillon and Bryce Harper). The Royals picked 4th.

There were about 15 players who were considered options at that spot (By MLB, not by the Royals), so it was a tough pick to have (kind of like having No. 2 in 2007 after David Price, or No. 5 in 2012). Drew Pomeranz and Yasmani Grandal were probably the most common consensus as the next-best guys available.

Matt Harvey had some buzz, but there was some industry fatigue with North Carolina products after the lack of success of Andrew Miller and Alex White.

Chris Sale was viewed as the guy with perhaps the best stuff, but he had played at a small school and there were (And still are, honestly) severe concerns about his ability to hold up as a starting pitcher.

The Royals decided to go safe with a guy they thought had a high MLB floor (as no worse than Placido Polanco) and could play a solid SS or Gold Glove-level 2B. He also fit into a position that was an extreme organizational hole, so that worked, too.

Obviously, it has not worked. Sounds like the Royals have a two-week hole to fill... could do worse than Colon at this point. Maybe MLB action is the jump he needs to get back on track... it's unlikely but stranger things have happened.

nychief 04-08-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10547819)
He's a terrible bust (that was a "need" pick) that is made worse by the fact they were planning to draft Sale until about 15 minutes before their pick.

I don't know there's much else up with Colon.

(Seriously, though, he did hit well down the stretch in Omaha, and I'd much rather see him hitting 2 than Escobar)

I hear ya

Ceej 04-08-2014 08:52 AM

Assuming Infante is out an extended period of time could to make Gordon/Aoki work at the top of the lineup?

I'm going to elbow drop puppies if Alcides is in the 2 hole.


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