Perfect replacement, Frankie Adams. Bobbie from the Expanse.

Oh ****....amazing pick and another hot thicc girl.

Does disney state how many are paying subs? Verizon gives disney plus for free or I would not be paying. Verizon has 120million. If half get disney plus for free that hurts as I doubt verizon pays the full amount.

As for Cara, it is a dumb move considering all the shit other actors, producers and directors have done and still employed.

Yes, they only report “paying” subscriptions. The subscriptions given by their partners like Verizon aren’t counted in that tally.

I agree with that. As an individual that should be your focus.

But it seems this woke culture has has caused the right to do and say the same things with shit that should not be talked about on social media but they are getting punished. I think that is where the outrage is from. I have already seen ten people alone on my Facebook cancel disney.

Others stated they are cancelling trips. I doubt they do.

I hate disney as a shill for China, but I won't cancel my free account.

Thank you

Jaimie Alexander is a strong contender from me.

Lawl, she is signing on with the Daily Wire production team.

Cancelled for **checks notes** 48 hours. She’ll be fine.

Heh. I predicted Newsmax.

Are you ****ing blind? She's okay, but not even close to Carano.

She's already liking tweets about how Pedro Pascal should be fired. Stay classy Gina.

Fair is fair.

Don't you besmirch my Bobbeh!

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The two incidents are not comparable. At all. As has been discussed here already.

She's pretty. Especially beautiful eyes.

But she ain't Gina.

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Overdosed on cholesterol meds

“Nazi comparisons for me but not for thee”

It's pretty simple, she was told by her bosses multiple times to knock it off, she didn't. What do you expect?

If she wants to flush her career that's on her.

You’re missing the point. Why wasn’t Pedro Pascal told to “knock it off”?

I love how some of you continue to ignore a blatant double standard.

Hell, technically speaking they didn't even fire her. They let her finish her current contracted work and then opted not to contract her for any further work because of her continued behavior. Therefore they did her a massive solid despite the fact that she was repeatedly spitting in their face despite them asking her to kindly not do that.

You aren’t answering the question. You’re just rationalizing hypocrisy.

Also, how did she “spit in their face”?

How do you know he wasn't told to stop. The tweet in question was deleted, right?

Because he’s still posting political stuff...

Anything on the level of the November post he deleted? That's the only one I've seen that I'd consider all that troublesome. I really haven't paid much attention if at all so if he's posted other stuff comparable to that then yeah, that's a bit problematic.

Didn't she post so much stupid shih like anti masking stuff and other things? Sounds like Disney gave her plenty of chances to STFU before that latest tweet.

Yeah, that's kind of the gist I got from the situation.

Who decides what’s problematic?

Most of his posts are political. He has pronouns in his bio like your standard far left nut job on Twitter. He has compared Trump supporters to Nazi’s, which is clearly worse than what she did. Him and Mark Ruffalo are the actors/champions of the woke.

In this situation their bosses.

You getting cataracts, old man? Bobbie is hot af just the way she is. Gina WAS hot about 50 lbs ago, now she's eh....OK.

A teacher in my city got publicly reprimanded for talking about Black Lives Matter during MLK day. A teacher at my school has a “Thin Blue Line” bumper sticker.

Go an hour up the road in Denver and BLM is a common sight in every teacher’s classroom. Just depends on your boss/employer.

I mean relative to this discussion we’re having.

As you can see, there’s more than enough evidence to support that there is a double standard. I’m not asking whether you think they have a right to do it. I think we all know they do.

The question is, do YOU think that’s right, and if so, why?

That’s where people like Dane and eDave get confused and think this is about politics for me. I don’t care about the politics of it. It’s just about right and wrong.

I don’t understand how anybody can sit back and see what’s going on and not be against these big companies giving into the woke mobs or being part of it.

Why can’t we all just agree that the double standard is blatant and wrong?

Either be consistent or cut the bullshit. That’s all I ask, and I think any reasonable person would agree.

I understand she will be fine, but she makes vague comparisons to Nazi’s and she gets cancelled, Pascal clearly compares Trump supporters to Nazi’s and gets a starring gig on the next new HBO hit series to go with Disney+.

If it weren’t for their political views this would be seen as an example of misogyny or something. There’s no consistency anywhere in any of this because it’s insanity.

That's a good call, but I heard she's reprising her Lady Sif role in Thor: Love and Thunder.

I'd take Frankie Adams just to hear her kiwi accent and see those eyes talking to me and only me.

had to binge watch mandalorian before I commented. I must say SW:Mando is pretty overrated, it's not very original. most of the actors are good, but there are some poor actors mixed in. same goes for the CGI, a lot of the CGI on the creatures/monsters was great and then the de-aging CGI in the last episode was total shit. I'm glad I didn't pay for it.

I think Gina made the right choice. it was probably annoying to have fellow cast members police her thoughts and expressions. the tweets I saw were pretty tame compared to Pedros. Pedros tweet was dripping with anti-American and anti-semitic sentiment. he probably deleted it out of embarrassment. I'm looking forward to seeing some new and original content from Daily Wire.

I am so ****ing shit of this ****ing partisan political bullshit. This is my favorite show in years on tv and now I have to ignore the thread about it because it's hijacked by pages and pages of worthless bullshit that has ****ing nothing to do with the show itself all because the far and away worst ****ing actor on the show got fired for being a ****ing idiot. But hey, maybe she can win an award for acting now, if somebody starts a "career darwin award for dummies".

Maybe I should start a "Right Wing Safe Space" where all the Conservative snowflakes can get together, proudly display their Trump brand Victim Cards and cry endlessly about the injustice of it all, how the Disney Overlords In Commiewood don't play fair and Star Trek sucks. Oh wait, that's the DC Forum. Well shit. Nevermind. Oh well,

Hey! I know! Maybe I can start a "Left Wing Creative Bankruptcy Reeducation Camp" where we talk about which popular 70s or 80s show or movie is going to get rebooted next and why it 100% needs to star a non-cis half latina, quarter African, 12% east Asian hermaphrodite and make sure we get apologies from all the white men who made the original for not getting it right the first time. Even though some of them had the audacity to not be white or male. ****ing privilege!

I hate this ****ing place so much sometimes. And by "this place" I mean every place. Because I can't get away from this political bullshit anywhere, and I'm so ****ing tired of it. I just want to go back to talking about how awesome it was to see Luke Skywalker be a badass and what's going to happen next season. **** Gina Carano. **** Disney. **** you. **** me.

America in 2021 might not be your bag. . .

Surprisingly enough, there are at least a few libs who think her firing was BS, like this guy from New York Magazine... and even Chris Hayes from MSNBC :eek:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-yo...wood-blacklist

Actually hung out at my buddies last night to finish up the last 3 episodes of season one, and catch the season two opener... I still LOVE this show, and in Carano's defense she really is NOT the shitty actress others here seem to think she is

As an athlete trying to make the jump to acting, she is well above average IMO

And I'm really impressed with the career Timothy Olyphant has put together

He parlayed low budget junk like Hitman into Deadwood, then Justified, until finally he's doing Tarantino movies and the Mandalorian... not too shabby

I will say I vastly enjoyed watching Carano in that role rather than when Hollywood casts a 100 lb actress who throws around 250 lb actors like ragdolls. With Gina there was never a need to suspend disbelief - it always felt legit.

Pretty fair mostly. I keep checking back in the thread hoping we've moved back to the actual show.

Is he going to be in on Rangers or anything else we've heard about in the Star Wars universe? He has been one of my favorite TV show actors since Deadwood.

Right? her arms and legs are bigger than a lot of men

I honestly don't know, that'd be a good question for Dane

But yeah, Deadwood really put him on the map

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I still remember the first time I saw him in anything was Todd the drug dealer in ‘Go’. He was magnetic

I don’t know shit about anything but the dork videos I watched said he was a fairly prominent character in the EU. There is a lot to work with if they decide to go that way and he’s onboard.

Olyphant is one of my favorite actors working right now and he was fantastic, if not amazing, in Justified. I'd love to see more Cobb Vanth in the Star Wars Universe, whether it's on the Mandalorian or one of the other series set post-Return of the Jedi.

But the dude is a Vanderbilt. He didn't have to parlay or "fight" for anything. He was born wealthy, handsome and with privilege.

The first thing I remember seeing him in was an HBO World War 2 movie called When Trumpets Fade. He had a small role - a young lieutenant who loses his shit when his platoon gets wiped out. He was so memorable and intense that I actually remembered him when I saw him in later roles; normally that's not the case.

Check the 8:00 mark. And the movie overall is very good, but it is dark and ****ed up.

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LMAO

I knew there was something I hated about him.

FYI, the Vanderbilt's still receive money for building those railroads.

I've met a few in New York and suffice to say, they're assholes. Not "DaneMcCloud internet forum assholes" but "You're a worthless pissant because I'm a trust fund Vanderbilt kid" type of asshole, which to me, are the worst kind.

That explains why he's 52 and looks 35, also.

Man, rich people SUCK LMAO

Huh. Didn’t know about the Vanderbilt stuff.

I guess that makes his down home acting in Justified all that much better LOL.

I haven’t ever heard of him being a choad like Cruise or anything. Doesn’t really change much in the way I view him.

Dane have you heard anything about him being an asshole?

Didn't know that about him, and yes it always takes a bit of shine off people when you know they were set for life whether they "made it" or not like Taylor Swift etc

People like that don't have to risk anything

That said he's an outstanding actor anyway, even his voice is very distinctive... I knew exactly who it was long before he even took off the helmet

On a side note I'm worried about his health though, he was sooo skinny in Mando, looked like a 90 pound sack of skin and bones

100% in agreement.

He's a phenomenal actor, whether it's his own show in Justified or in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood or the Netflix program with Drew Barrymore.

The dude has the "It" factor.

The scene in Once Upon where he is low key rubbing Leo's nose in his failures is one of the best scenes in the whole movie

I have never, ever heard a cross word about him and by all accounts, he's a great guy who's been married to his non-Hollywood wife for nearly 30 years.

I don't think that nepotism is really the correct word but if you look at the names of people working today, whether it's as an actor, producer, director, composer, et al, it's easy to see the same names over and over again.

"Connected" people have a distinct advantage over "outsiders", not only because of their family name and connections but due to the proper education and exposure that helps them to succeed. For example, if your Dad is a producer or director or actor, he'll know exactly which program and/or professors at USC, UCLA or NYU are best suited for your abilities, which is why so many of these graduates find work before they graduate.

The Vanderbilt's have always been connected and I think that it's common knowledge that Anderson Cooper is a Vanderbilt as well.

I'm guessing that James Vanderbilt has that lineage as well? Man. Nothing can hold up against generational wealth.

Having a big fat trust fund and connections at the highest levels must be a glorious thing

But its definitely cool to know that Olyphant doesn't live his life like a spoiled douche, as so many trust fund babies are known to do

Even setting connections aside, it's a huge advantage just to have a family that can pay for acting school and financially support you in the early part of your career.

Good to know.

No argument from me about connections. As a guy that doesn’t have very many, I get it.

LMAO

God I hate that douche even more now.

Isnt Anderson Cooper a direct descendant of the Vanderbilt's too?

I did the ancestry thing. My Dad to his Dad to his Dad etc. signed the Declaration of Independence. One of the richest men in America before he supported the revolution. The British took it all. So my bloodline was something 250 years ago.

I've tried to stay out of the political stuff with regards to Carano's firing, and I may have missed someone posting the following, but I think this merits inclusion in the thread.


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Justified might be my all-time favorite show. He, and the others, were simply amazing.

Decidedly different from Disney's narrative.

Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

@getFANDOM: Report: Cara Dune is expected to be recast

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My vote.

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Please let it be somebody that can act. It'd be nice to see that character portrayed beyond the range of driftwood.

Recast? **** that just be done with the character and move on.

The story from the Reporter has been updated. Lucasfilm has no plans to recast Cara Dune.

Otherwise, there's really nothing in this story that I didn't report here the morning after the firing the occurred. It's a mere confirmation.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...source=twitter

Behind Disney's Firing of 'Mandalorian' Star Gina Carano

The ouster of Carano from the show draws the ire of the political right-wing and marks an inflection point for Lucasfilm, whose star was warned repeatedly about her social posts.

It’s a plot twist that no studio relishes: One of its high-profile stars sparks outrage with a controversial social media post. On Feb. 10, The Mandalorian’s Gina Carano became the latest member of the Disney fold to do so, joining a list that includes Roseanne Barr, James Gunn, Letitia Wright and Liu Yifei — each drawing varying degrees of action or inaction from the studio. And no studio faces greater scrutiny over its decisions than the family-friendly Hollywood giant.

In Carano’s case, the move to cut ties had been brewing for some time. In the months leading up to Disney’s investor day presentation Dec. 10, Carano’s agents at UTA were negotiating for the actress to receive a sizable bump for a planned spinoff of Disney+’s The Mandalorian that was to star her fan-favorite character, Cara Dune. The actress, who sources say made $25,000 to $50,000 per episode of The Mandalorian, was poised to be touted during the presentation, in which Kathleen Kennedy announced 10 new Star Wars shows, including Rangers of the New Republic, a series that seemed tailor-made for Carano.

But Carano was nowhere to be found during the lengthy presentation. In the lead-up to the event, Carano had become a lightning rod among Star Wars fans and a headache for Lucasfilm, after a series of tweets in which she mocked mask-wearing, suggested voter fraud occurred during the 2020 election and shared posts that some viewed as transphobic. “She was originally in that presentation when they announced all those things, and they pulled her off of it,” a source tells The Hollywood Reporter. A Lucasfilm source counters that Carano was never officially part of the Dec. 10 presentation and no negotiations for future work had taken place.

Two months later, the deal for her spinoff is dead, as is her relationship with Lucasfilm and UTA, both of whom dropped her after she shared a post suggesting that being a Republican today was akin to being Jewish in the time leading up to the Holocaust. Disney declined comment beyond Lucasfilm’s initial statement describing Carano’s posts as “abhorrent and unacceptable.”

Still, Disney’s decision to show Carano the door has prompted cries from the right, including from Sen. Ted Cruz and pundit Ben Shapiro, that the studio acts when the left is upset. Paired with events in 2018 when then-ABC president Channing Dungey called out as “abhorrent” a tweet from Trump supporter Barr that likened Obama administration alum Valerie Jarrett to a primate, such claims have publicists advising clients to steer clear of politics, especially anything leaning right.

“I don’t know what people at Disney personally believe or don’t believe with regard to politics, but as a corporate entity, they want to stay as trouble-free as possible. And anything that’s going to offend the left is a problem,” says crisis PR rep Juda Engelmayer. “I have clients who are making an extraordinary effort to post what the social left wants to see.”

Black Panther star Wright’s December tweets, which amplified a U.K. minister’s video that questioned the safety of the novel coronavirus vaccine and disparaged trans people, also garnered criticism, as did an August 2019 social media post from Mulan star Liu, who offered support of Hong Kong police during the government’s crackdown on pro-democracy protests. Sources say neither actress was talked to by Disney, which opted to let both matters blow over. (Wright deleted her Twitter account and Liu steered away from the subject in the months leading up to Mulan’s release).

Politics, however, seemed to play a role in Disney’s move to sever ties with Gunn in 2018 after right-wing personalities resurfaced offensive, nearly decade-old tweets that included such eyebrow-raising jokes as: “I like when little boys touch me in my silly place.” At the time Gunn reiterated an apology, stating on Twitter: “Many people who have followed my career know, when I started, I viewed myself as a provocateur, making movies and telling jokes that were outrageous and taboo. As I have discussed publicly many times, as I’ve developed as a person, so has my work and my humor.” One year later, Disney brought him back to direct the third installment of Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy.

The decision to banish Carano from the Disney kingdom went higher than Mandalorian creator Jon Favreau and was made by Lucasfilm executives. Carano, sources say, had repeatedly been warned by those around her about her social media behavior, with the actress even noting publicly in September that her Mandalorian co-star Pedro Pascal, who has a trans sibling, educated her about the use of pronouns after a social media flare-up. “She knew it was going to alarm people,” says one person in her orbit of her recent posts. “Why would you put Favreau in that position?”

Carano’s ouster had a domino effect, with Hasbro ending production on its popular Cara Dune action figures. (Hasbro says there are “no current plans to create more” Dune products.) Amazon appears to have pulled most of its Cara Dune toy merchandise. When asked why, an Amazon rep declined further comment. Meanwhile, the Dune action figures are seeing brisk sales on eBay at prices well above the original list prices.

Insiders say Cara Dune wasn’t part of the Star Wars series next up, a Boba Fett spinoff, but expect that the character will be recast down the road, for both story and merchandising reasons. A source at Lucasfilm says that a recasting is not expected, however. For her part, Carano will be producing a film with Shapiro’s Daily Wire. “I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob,” Carano stated Feb. 12. “I have only just begun using my voice which is now freer than ever before, and I hope it inspires others to do the same.”

Carano’s firing comes at an inflection point for Lucasfilm, which was previously criticized for not more strongly defending Star Wars sequel trilogy stars John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran from racist bullying online over the years. On Jan. 23, the company signaled a shift when it put out a statement of support for Krystina Arielle, the host of The High Republic Show, after she was subject to racist bullying and threats.

Industry observers note that for companies such as Lucasfilm, taking a stance against offensive behavior sends a signal to both employees and fans from marginalized backgrounds that they are valued. “You need an inclusive and welcoming tone set from the top,” says André Carrington, author of Speculative Blackness: The Future of Race in Science Fiction and Associate Professor of English at the University of California, Riverside. One manager who has outspoken clients and has dealt with elements of cancel culture is advising vocal clients to cool it down politically. Says the manager, “If you’re too far on both sides, it hurts you.”

Feb. 16, 5:47 pm PST Updated to add a Lucasfilm source saying that the Cara Dune role on The Mandalorian is not expected to be recast and that she was not part of the Dec. 10 presentation, nor was she engaged in negotiations for future work.

Thanks for updating Dane.

No reason to recast, just write in a new character and develop him/her.

Agreed

Right. Recasting Cara Dunne would just bring attention to how she's not played by Carano, and then we're stuck in an infinite loop of bitching and bullshit, and why exactly that is.

Just finished Mandalorian Season Two last night, so finally came out to this thread to see what was being discussed. CARA DUNE WAS CANCELED? WTF?! What a great character. I had to look up why she was canceled and can find nothing that comes anywhere near warranting it. ****ing Disney.

On other topics, I'm curious what people think about the Boba Fett series. The teaser was fun. I'm not sure who the hell Boba Fett is at this point. Seems like all of the sudden he's this noble guy who always does right, then next thing he goes in and blasts his way to sit on Jabba's throne to be the next big gangster. Sopranos in space? I'm guessing at some point we'll get to see how he escaped the Sarlacc.