I really, really don't think Reid had a thing to do with this.

If he did, they wouldn't be interviewing guys from outside that he has zero ties to. They'd just hire Veach after interviewing to comply with Rooney rule.

I'm sure he talked with Hunt about the Maclin situation. You think he'd keep quiet? Doubt it.

Idk why but I do feel like there is a strong possibility that Dorsey straight up cut Maclin without telling Andy. Maybe be mentioned it to him before so he wasn't completely blindsided about it, but make no mistake Andy was ****ing livid at OTA's after that move. You could tell something more was there.

With Dorsey supposedly doing things without telling people and Andy calling Maclin right after to console him, it really makes this seem like a god guess.

The Maclin debacle ended Dorsey's time here. He had to have really ****ed that entire situation up.

The one thing that struck me as "odd" in the Maclin deal was...he was out there practicing all week. He could have injured himself then been cut....not sure what type of insurance he carries but it was kind of a shitty deal. Maybe in Dorsey's mind...he was giving him one last chance to be on the team. Reid knew he was being shopped as I mentioned. After he heard back from the coaches..he decided to release him.

The staircase in the practice facility was a shit hole though. Litter everywhere

Like you said, I too now believe that Dorsey was practicing Bill B.-type cutting and negotiation, and that it came to a head during his discussions with Clark.
I'm fairly positive that Clark doesn't want the Chiefs to become known as a ruthless franchise where long term players are shown the door on the fly.

Personally, I think that style is long overdue in KC after years of trying to milk the last drops of talent from several old cows.

Dorsey forced himself out. Running the risk of a Maclin injury during OTA's is inexcusable if you are apparently in that bad of a cap situation because had he gotten hurt, who are we cutting? He goes to as some people mentioned more of a cut throat scenario, which is contrary to what he did when he first got here.

We are all sitting here saying screw Clark, blah blah blah but I believe Dorsey may have been doing the things he has been doing as he thought no chance they cut me and if they do they look foolish (which we do). It was lose lose for Clark, but I don't believe Reid or any of them or as upset about it as we are. Besides overpaid Tampa of course.

They may have wanted to see if Maclin was back to true form and he just plain sucked and was beat out.

Yup just with the story Terez put out about dorsey doing shit without telling people, it makes sense. Then factor in the him and clark butting heads with the Berry negotiations combined with maybe cutting maclin on his own, then it kind of all makes sense now.

I think that was the case...in Dorsey's defense, Maclin earned his release. I think he was giving him the chance to re-claim his spot. It's his job to protect the team...not Maclin's feelings. They paid him like $20 million...he'll have a nice life.

Having a "family" atmosphere is admirable but not at the expense of making to correct moves to build a championship caliber team.

I also think that Dorsey wanted to release Maclin earlier but Andy didn't want to and that's why he was cut so late.

Plenty of teams have won tittles and didn't treat players like they are nothing. Bill can only get away with acting like a dick is because Brady backs him up. Bills style will never work without Brady. He will be soooo finished after this season.

So when they hire Veach after all this, what does that say?

Actually Kraft backs him up...Hunt obviously didn't.

Kraft doesn't care what Bill does. He cheated for years and he did nothing to him. The owners should have demanded he be fired after he fugged several of them over.

They'll say that he was the best man for the job.

What it really means is that no one wanted to ditch their other team at this time. I'm kind of hoping that we hire the guy from the Titans.

It sounds like the Veach hire is a virtual certainty at this point. Hard to complain. The guy has spent the past several years learning from Dorsey, Ballard, and everyone else. He's credited for the selections of Fletcher Cox, D-Jax, Shady McCoy....

The situation is still weird to me, but if Veach is hired, I will feel fine moving forward. Best chance to stay on track.

Link to the chiefs leaking it?

They are meeting with Fitterer as we speak

It says he was the best man for the job.

I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise.

I would assume that if Veach gets hired......that Borgonzi is moved up to the #2 guy.

The NFL Network reported the deal before it was signed. There's no way they get that info without the Chiefs telling the NFL Network/NFL that a deal had been signed.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...es-crying-foul

This is a truly awful take. BB's style works because he has a pile of rings.

I disagree. I think Dorsey and Reid wanted to see a few OTAs to see how Hill, Conley, Robinson and Chesson looked. That would be the smart thing to do too.

Cowden interviewing today. Hope he gets it.

If anyone other than Veach is hired as the GM, the Chiefs are looking at a massive overhaul of the front office in 2018, with Veach most certainly leaving the franchise for a position elsewhere.

Is that really what you want?

....because of Brady. Oh, and cheating.

With Dorsey and Ballard gone + the cap guy and scouts you could argue the front office is already going through a massive overhaul.

I want the best candidate moving forward.

Fitterer has a interview today as well

So you'd like to see all of the new hires fired, so there's a complete change in front office personnel?

I don't see how that benefits the Chiefs or Andy Reid.

"I’m obviously willing to do anything to help the team and help us get better — whatever that is."-Alex Smith

ROFL You really believe that, don't you?

Pack your shit and head back to Cali?


Say, can someone tell me why Clark Hunt enjoys fisting his own asshole so much?

Also, number of years his latest dumbshit move will set franchise momentum back?

I'm going with 2.

And there it is. Clearest explanation thus far with specific examples of moves Dorsey made that led to this...

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/06/29/k...d-nfl-notebook

"Others in the building saw signs of decisions becoming less collaborative, and more centered on Dorsey’s instincts"

That tends to happen when you are consistently right...and realize that others arent as intuitive. Roles define themselves...organically.

Dorsey should have paid "Dwight" Stephenson...THAT is why he was fired. ROFL (I Imagine they will fix that typo...)

Chiefs are mum on this...as CHunt knows that real football people know he's an amateur owner falling into his position via inheritance. What little football cred he had... just took a hit. Scouts talk too...

Reid is a perfect Hunt coach...he's always walked the line of "company man" and old school football. Dorsey sounds like he was too far out of the "yes man" loop..and just cared about building a quality football team.

Chunt is now a joke...in real football circles. I say good...you earned it junior. The only thing that commands respect is the money his father left him....They should sell the team. Hunt should go play CEO/owner of something he cares about...

my biggest question is this:

pioli: four years 1 murder suicide, fired.

dorsey: four years, no murder suicides, fired.

:D

You forgot 2-14 vs 12-4

Every time I see locker room video, post-game...Hunt looks like 13 year old. I imagine Dorsey's respect for Hunt ends where his inheritance does...in regards to real football.

i didn't forget, i just couldn't be bothered atm posting stats. look. i am actually all for it, the firing. it came down to a green bay option further down the road. i'd be pissed too. as long as we see 'proof' andy is NOT the GM, then we will be fine. :D

Chunt needs to go away...quit living in his father's shadow. This was such a chump move...

right now, knee jerk reaction. let's revisit in two years time.

i think everyone is getting butterflies given the chiefs have been in the news so much this offseason. ya'll aren't used to it.

at least they aren't the browns. :D

Thanks for posting that DaWolf. Yep, it's starting to make much more sense. Dorsey has been called a Ted Thompson clone and even if he doesn't publicaly admit it I'm sure those close to him know he most likely doesn't like the duties that come with being A GM in the typical sense. Like Thompson he could do without the contract negotiations, salary cap, and all the business side of things in the football operations. In '99 he went with Mike Holmgren to Seattle. Holmgren had a clause in his contract allowing him to persue HC/GM dual role jobs and he got one in Seattle. He took Dorsey along as his Director of Player Personnel. He had been GB's Director of College Scouting at the time. I believe at the same time Holmgren took Will Lewis, who Dorsey just let his contract expire at the same time as McCracken, from GB to Seattle. Then in '01 Scott Fitterer became a scout in Seattle. So that is probably part of the reason Fitterer is being granted an interview. He's definitly qualified. But also reccommended from Holmgren to Reid and Hunt. Back to Dorsey...He lasted only 1 year, the '99 season in Seattle. He resigned and took a demotion to go back to GB as the Director as College Scouting once again. He held that position from 2000 until being promoted to Director of Football Operations (Ballard's last job in KC) in 2012 before of course becoming KC's GM.

McGinn: Dorsey ideal option as next Packers GM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s-gm/96489822/

Take a look at the above article to get a good insight to Dorsey is as a man from folks that know him very well up in GB. He loves is up there. Living there. Bought a house there last summer. The thought that was out there of him wanting an out clause just like Holmgren in a sense, I can believe it after reading that article. I can see him being torn if he knows when that would become available he would love to have it. And despite Eliot Wolf, Russ Ball, and Brian Gutekunst being on staff there's thought that Packers CEO Mark Murphy prefers Dorsey above all of them.

http://packerswire.usatoday.com/2017...future-nfl-gm/

Speaking of Russ Ball, read up on him. Marty's former asst. strength coach then asst to the HC(Marty) Denny Thum of the salary cap and loved by everyone just like Thum always was. But so much more than Thum in all aspects of football you could imagine. Side note: Russ's Brother Randy is a Pro Scout for KC. Brought in by Dorsey. But if you actually read up on Ross you will see why it works for GB with an old school scout who probably doesn't like the salary cap, contracts, etc and it's not his strong suit. That's exactly why they hate any publicity he gets because he is invaluable to them and doesn't seem to mind working out of the spotlight.

KC never had that luxury of a Russ Ball to pair with Dorsey. And Murphy knows this and realizes he can pair those two just like Thompson and Ball and not miss a beat. Plus he probably can retain 1 of Eliot Wolf and Gutekunst to take over for Dorsey after say 5-8 years give or take. Some think that Wolf never wants the job his father had and the pressure that would come along with it.

I'm sure if he and Hunt could have worked through their differences on his management style, cap woes, and come to terms of likely a very hefty raise, Dorsey would still be here. But they would also be best off going out and finding their own Russ Ball, Thum, or John Idzik type. But that isn't really how things are structured. And that probably would lead to a less paying contract for a GM who in Hunt's eyes wasn't a complete GM. Time will tell on his next move but I could also see Dorsey taking a Senior or Executive VP of Football Operations role... A non GM but lead Personnel Exec role. Or he could very well end up GB's GM if they can also retain Ball. Either way, in my opinion, I don't see him wanting to work anywhere else besides GB. The man loves it up there. And that really sucks for KC. But I'm willing to give Clark a break on this as I'm not sure there was anything he could do considering.

i really don't get the fascination with the green bay packers, personally. what have THEY done compared to say, the PATRIOTS, or DENVER, or the STEELERS, in the last 15 years?

sometimes i think too many people hang their hats on what the packers have done over 60 years, versus 20. :D

The subject has been ran through the ringer. Seems like Dorsey made decisions on his own to many times and left people in the dark before doing them one to many times. End of story.

Gutekunst is one I would like to see them interview. Like John Schneider, he spent a year in KC in the late 90s early 2000s working under Chuck Cook, Lynn Stiles, and Bill Kuharich. Leave it to Carl to let the young talent slip out the door...

Moving on from McCracken made no sense. But moving on from Will Lewis after losing Ballard sure didn't. It left Veach and Borgonzi as the longest tenured personnel men besides a couple area scouts. I like Tim Terry as the new director of pro personnel but it's his first in a director role. Asst. Director of Pro Personnel up in GB. Dorsey's first staff hires he kept a bunch of left overs. He knew Ballard well since both scouted in the same division. He knew he was sharp and made an excellent hire there. Lewis was someone he knew from GB. Marvin Allen was just a long time area scout with the Falcons with no Director of College Scouting experience. And he's a National Scout now. Demotion.

Matt Donahoe and Jason Lamb were interns in GB. Now area scouts. Dan Zegers was an equipment and scouting department intern then Dorsey's scouting asst. here. Jim Noel spent a year coaching at Temple. Matt Rhoule and Reid are close. Plus Britt Reid was at Temple. Trey Koziol was brought on as much as anything else with him knowing Ryan Poles who was promoted recently to Director of College Scouting from College scouting coordinator. Poles was Matt Ryan's LT and Koziol his TE at Boston College.

Willie Davis (yes, the WR) and Terry Delp are area scouts hired by Carl and have hung around. Brandt Tilis (cap analyst) Ryan Poles, Ryne Nutt, Pat Sperduto, and Mike Borgonzi were Pioli hires. And good for Dorsey for not shit canning them just because and hiring his own guys. It's a good thing they got to learn under Dorsey and Ballard. All were young and hungry even though very green. But they must be doing something right.

Poles promotion caught me off guard a bit. He was a administrator and then coordinator for College Scouting before just being promoted last month to Director of College Scouting. I don't think he did much road scouting. More logistics and scheduling. But he has a good reputation and already being really organized and detailed, if the scouting comes natural he could be a fast riser. I figured that job would go to Ryne Nutt or Trey Koziol.

This current crew is young and inexperience at the top. I wouldn't mind to see Will Lewis come back as Director of Football Operations or Player personnel if Borgonzi gets promoted to VP of Player Personnel or even Asst GM. I think like most that Veach gets GM. They need some experience though. Maybe Senior Personnel Executive of the Packers Alonzo Highsmith who Reid knows well. He is another scout only type though. This Ryan Cowden would be great to get as an asst GM or VP of Player Personnel with Veach as GM. But as the case with Fitterer he could stay put and wait or their teams could promote them as well. But with the cash available with Veach most likely to not break the bank as a first time GM they need at least one hire with some experience. This new legal/cap guy Chris Shea could also play a bigger role as well.

I'm gonna slap a bitch if they bring Ryan Grigson's useless ass in to help Veach just because of his history with Reid

Matt Russell with the Donkeys was an area scout for Reid in Philly for a couple years.

The Giants Marc Ross, who was a popular name when Pioli was hired, also has a history with Reid.
http://www.giants.com/team/staff/mar...d-ea613a65d0de

Dorsey: I'll stay as long as it takes to build a Super Bowl contender and not a second longer

Hunt: Deal!!

Strange its almost like most of CP has no clue what they are talking about.

Not sure how everyone didn't know what was going on behind closed doors at Arrowhead.

But let’s start with the Chiefs. Though most people in that organization seem to maintain genuine affection for Dorsey, issues simmered there for almost two years. They began to boil over following the departure of director of football operations Chris Ballard in January, and came to a head at a most unusual juncture in the NFL calendar—the deadest time of the football year.

Back in February, with the five-year deals of Dorsey and coach Andy Reid set to expire after the 2017 season, Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt told the Kansas City Star: “I would expect to sit down with them over the course of the next year and talk about an extension.” The Reid talks happened, and a deal was struck to keep him in Kansas City through the 2021 season. The Dorsey talks didn’t.

So there are two questions to answer: 1) What changed? 2) How did Hunt see what few on the outside could, and what few on the inside thought would never reach the ownership level?

The truth is, some of this traces back to a shift in the organizational model in 2013. Scott Pioli was the only person on the football side reporting to Hunt from 2009-12, and Hunt changed that, in part, because he wanted more oversight. So Reid, Dorsey and president Mark Donovan would all report to Hunt, as Hunt was determined not to let problems fester as they had with Pioli and ex-coach Todd Haley.

In practice, that meant Hunt had a better view of the internal issues than many realized, particularly since Reid and Dorsey set up their football operation in the old Eagle model, with coaching and scouting somewhat sovereign to one another.

Given the power each then wielded, the stock criticism of Dorsey—that while he’s incredibly respected as an evaluator, he’s more scout than manager—was validated with a level of disorganization that was noticeable before the hyper-organized Ballard departed, and obvious after he left for Indy.
As one source explained it, “It wasn’t dysfunction so much as it was decisions were being made that seemed to come out of nowhere. So that existed, but the people here weren’t aware that ownership was aware of it. … You look back now, how it worked out, and ownership was more aware that it didn’t need to be run that way.”

There were also a few flash points to prove it out over the past 18 months:

• The selection of Stanford quarterback Kevin Hogan in the fifth round of the 2016 draft. That move stunned scouts and coaches, based on the evaluation and meetings leading up to the draft. Hogan didn’t wind up making the team four months later, and started last season on the Browns’ practice squad.

• The four-year, $48 million extension with left tackle Eric Fisher in August 2016. At the time of signing, Fisher had failed to entrench himself at the left tackle spot he was drafted to play. In fact, Fisher lost the job to Donald Stephenson during the 2015 season, and Fisher was flipped to the right side. The Chiefs still did the big contract, despite having a year left on Fisher’s rookie deal, and an option year after that.

• The five-year, $41.25 million deal for guard Laurent Duvernay-Tardif in February. This deal came, like Fisher’s, in Duvernay-Tardif’s first offseason eligible for a second contract. Meanwhile, the Justin Houston and Eric Berry contract talks simmered—cap guru Trip MacCracken was let go last month—and the team has spent the past couple years perilously close to the salary cap.

Others in the building saw signs of decisions becoming less collaborative, and more centered on Dorsey’s instincts. It also didn’t go unnoticed that Dorsey’s draft picks, like Fisher and Duvernay-Tardif, were the ones getting paid early. And the way the Jeremy Maclin release was handled—key members of the staff didn’t know until after it became public—didn’t help squash the internal whispering.

This isn’t to say there weren’t decisions that were made with a roaring consensus from the team’s football operation. One such call was the one to pursue Texas Tech quarterback Patrick Mahomes in the draft. The Chiefs moved aggressively to make it happen.

But too often, there were big moves made where scouts and coaches were left scratching their heads. It still bothers some close to Dorsey that Hunt caught wind of it, because there certainly weren’t many signs externally that the ax was about to drop. Some still maintain that it was right to keep these issues in-house, since they may have been fixable.

The trouble with that, of course, was the Chiefs were going to have to sign up for another half-decade with Dorsey. And in the end, that’s something that Hunt wasn’t going to do.

I agree. They have one title with Rogers but they should have more. If they were smart they would get him a defense but all they do is draft and almost never fill in with vets. To me they have done a shit job maximizing Rogers career and when hes gone they will Suck ass.

Hopefully, whoever becomes the new GM can learn fast and not **** up our roster too bad.

Hopefully the new GM will manage contracts and the cap better so we can make an effort to improve the team in the off season.

I am on board with building through the draft but you can't just do that every year.

I think Reid should be talked to and his play calling should, at the least, be supplemented with another offensive mind. That said I think he's done a pretty good job and like the extension and the stability it provides.

Whut?

That talk did happen.

We can argue and speculate over how it went and why it ended up like it did but they did meet to discuss Dorsey's contract and its extension...

John Schneider-Seahawks GM
Reggie McKenzie-Raiders GM
John Dorsey-ex-Chiefs GM

Look at what all these guys have done as GM's, especially in the draft. These guys were all together in GB with Ted Thompson until 2010 and the guys who are there now running for the GM position were lower level scouts.
They won the SB in 2010 bc of those men. They had like 20 guys on IR but incredible depth through team building.

Now that all these guys left in 2010-2013, we see that Ted Thompson sucks ass and the Packers have fallen off.

That MMQB article definitely seems in line with realistic thinking... it paints the move as more sensible than it has been thus far.

I wish KC still had Ballard, but I think they should be fine. A lot rides on Mahomes.

Well its pretty insane to think Clark made this move on a whim or without serious reasons for doing so.

He has stated many times he really wants continuity in the organization.

All this flailing and bashing of Clark is ridiculous really when you consider we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.

Clark has been nothing but remarkable as an owner since taking over, not sure what more he could be doing to this point.

He just Ok'd 2 not one but 2 first round draft picks to get Mahomes.

Clark is a guy who many here claimed wouldn't "allow" a single first round pick to be used on a QB. The same people who truly believed THAT somehow think they know exactly why Clark fired Dorsey and they act as if they know what Clark is thinking all the time.

Its pretty comical really.

I'm with you, pugs. My initial reaction to the Dorsey firing was negative. I thought Clark had somehow made a knee-jerk, emotional move without much due diligence. However, after reading that MMQB piece, it sure looks like Hunt had sufficient reason for making the move. It sounds like things changed a bit when Ballard left (as if a key counter-balance to Dorsey was removed), and Hunt was concerned that without Ballard around, Dorsey's rather unpolished, unstructured approach to things simply was not going to work long term. Hence the move to release Dorsey. Kind of all makes sense now.

Thanks to all who have posted material relating to Dorsey's departure. CP strikes again!!!

Russell is the guy who discovered Matt Cassell and convinced Pioli/BB to draft him. He's also Elway's right-hand man.

This explains why Denver hasn't had a pro bowler or all pro from any of their last 4 drafts.

Surprised Denver kept Patriot scum around

If Clark Hunt was displeased with Dorsey before allowing Ballard to walk, why did he allow Ballard to walk?

Also, Breer's comment about Veach doesn't bode well for him as the next GM as Clark may not want history to repeat itself.

It also makes sense why Clark is bringing in guys that are known for their organizational and management skills. It sounds like Clark wants the GM to manage and make the final decisions regarding personnel but would prefer a manager to a scout running the football operations.

It also sounds like Dorsey and Pioli were polar opposites when it came or management styles, so Clark is probably looking for someone in the middle.

I must've missed the part about Veach. What did he say?

That's my question. If there were issue while we still had Ballard, why let him go? If the issues happened after Ballard left, where they really worth firing him over?

One way or another, I see no way the contract talks should have happened after Ballard left. If your #2 is leaving, you better know your #1 is staying.

My god. Is he also the guy who beheads people in Iraq?

5. The leader for the job still seems to be co-director of player personnel Brett Veach, who is young, enthusiastic and energetic. The question with him is how he would handle working in the office day-to-day, since his background is largely as a road scout.

What's stranger still is that Breer says the "issue" began 2 years ago.

Does that mean two years ago, as in this time in 2015?

Or does it mean two seasons ago, in 2014??

Either way, Clark must have been biting his tongue after the 1-5 start in 2015.

Well, it's been a week and it ain't any less stupid.

They said the section of Hogan and extensions to Fisher and LDT were tipping points. Dorsey basically made all the decisions by himself instead of communicating with other people. The release of Maclin was all Dorsey and there were people in the Chiefs front office who didn't even knew he was released until it was public

The MMQB article provided one excellent nugget, IMO (because the bitching over Fisher and LDT is stupid).

It points out the sort of organizational chaos that arose after the more organized Ballard left. It kindof explains the weird way the whole Maclin deal went down. It also allays some concerns I had that he's looking for another 'corporate' Pioli when perhaps he's really just looking for someone that running around with his hair on fire. A happy medium, so to speak.

I still think we'll feel this in a big way in the draft and I don't think that Dorsey really got his ass kicked in these contract deals (the deals he gave are market deals except for Hali. DJ's was high but DJ took a cut that put it back in line and injury hurt us there). But if Ballard was a counterbalance that was needed to keep Dorsey from having a Yakkity Sax style front office, then perhaps a change was needed.

Remarkable? Holy shit man LMAO

This is the same problem that has plagued the Chiefs franchise going back to Lamar Hunt... the Hunt family waits too long to make needed decisions.

Clark should have made this move with Dorsey back in January, so Ballard could have been promoted to GM.

Just like Clark let Scott Pioli almost burn down his franchise before making the necessary change.

Just like Clark and Lamar let Carl Peterson stay on about 10 years past his expiration date as GM.

Just like Lamar let Jack Steadman run the franchise into the ground for two decades before finally making a change.

At least Clark is more engaged in the day to day football operations of the franchise than his father appeared to be, but the indecisiveness and being too slow to make big decisions has remained the same.

That was what made that line so interesting, though.

I'm not so sure the gravity of the situation was apparent UNTIL Ballard left. And once that happened and Dorsey lost his 'company man' and organizer, it became apparent that perhaps Dorsey truly was more scout than executive.

It makes the timing a little less bizarre.

The question is whether or not he's Dorsey in a suit.

Does he have the administrative skills to run a personnel department. That would likely be the focus of the interview.

That makes Chunt even more a chump....letting Ballard walk if this rift started 2 years ago. If cutting Maclin and his 500 yards was the last straw and his future employment was that tenuous...then ownership is flawed.

Only in Chiefsland does going 12-4 with your DL on IR, drafting a rookie all-pro and a soon-to-be probowler (Jones) get you fired....not to mention 6 national games.

Par for the course for this franchise...

Breer's article portrays Clark as "aware" that Dorsey was disorganized and somewhat of a mess, yet it took Ballard's absence for it be extremely apparent.

I know that it's been nearly a decade since Clark took over the reigns of the franchise but he's clearly still feeling his way around the duties of a CEO.

It appears that he was conflicted: On one hand, the Chiefs had the type of sustained success that they hadn't seen in two decades, yet Clark had a feeling that it wasn't for long.

Everyone has perfect vision in hindsight but it appears as if Clark didn't trust his gut and fire Dorsey after the season.

Hopefully moving forward, he learns to trust his instincts a bit more.

Exactly.

And that may be why he wasn't hired for the Buffalo gig.

This is Clark's fault 100%. This isn't a CEO's type of responsibility. This is management of any level, period.

Surely Clark had done yearly reviews and knew something deeper?

What you described is a completely incompetent CEO. There is no way this should have happened at all. If Clark saw problems, he should have done his due dilligence and found out the source of the problem.

If it was Dorsey, then he should have been fired after the playoff game and Ballard should have been promoted.

The tough thing about the contracts is that if Houston was healthy this past year, the Chiefs would have gone far enough into the playoffs that no one would be talking about contracts. That one fluke injury to the team's superstar continues to reverberate.

Clark hired a GM he didn't trust. A GM that helped build a team that has had a winning record the last 4 seasons and won a playoff game for the first time in 20 years. Some would say - don't **** with it, if it ain't broken. But not the Hunt family. They strive to compete with Cleveland in fan sadness, depression and angst.

If Clark knew that Dorsey could be a problem without Ballard.....then you deny Indy the ability to interview Ballard and keep him for when you dump Dorsey. Clark knows that there is a year on Dorsey's contract left....and he doesn't want him around without his balance (Ballard). Eventually Clark would have to decide between the two.

I'm not so sure how people aren't getting this.

It OBVIOUSLY wasn't apparent until ballard left, otherwise ballard would have the job IMO...