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alnorth 03-04-2014 11:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10466137)
Welcome to the AL Central, Ian Kinsler!
on the Rangers : "To be honest with you, I hope they go 0-162. I got friends, and I love my friends, but I hope they lose their ass."

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10...-espn-magazine
He also called the Rangers GM a "sleazeball"

Prison Bitch 03-04-2014 12:03 PM
MLB needs to respond to the marketplace and shorten games. There is zero doubt fans want shorter games and surveys show this. When you factor in the 10-min attention span of their future customers, the milennials, it's a no-brainer. Calling strikes is one of the few options they have but when you do, you slash runs. To compensate you have to increase speed.


The move towards expanded instant replay is a step in the wrong direction. It'll bore the shit outta fans and increase game lengths. Sorry but a blown call over the course of 162 games isn't worth the endless delays coming on board.


Finally they should limit pitching changes. They're awful. Watching some of the NL playoffs those d-bag managers were doing multiple swaps in the same half inning. You should get 1 pitching change in an inning. ("You can't do that Bitch!" says Duncan. Yes we can! Yes we can!)

mr. tegu 03-04-2014 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10466226)
MLB needs to respond to the marketplace and shorten games. There is zero doubt fans want shorter games and surveys show this. When you factor in the 10-min attention span of their future customers, the milennials, it's a no-brainer. Calling strikes is one of the few options they have but when you do, you slash runs. To compensate you have to increase speed.


The move towards expanded instant replay is a step in the wrong direction. It'll bore the shit outta fans and increase game lengths. Sorry but a blown call over the course of 162 games isn't worth the endless delays coming on board.


Finally they should limit pitching changes. They're awful. Watching some of the NL playoffs those d-bag managers were doing multiple swaps in the same half inning. You should get 1 pitching change in an inning. ("You can't do that Bitch!" says Duncan. Yes we can! Yes we can!)
So if your first two pitchers are doing horrible the team just has to suck it up? Four consecutive walks to start an inning from two pitchers, but too bad for you? That makes no sense.

Also, on the limited throws to first, I don't like that because it removes the competiveness. After the third throw the runner can basically take any lead they want to steal the base.

You can counter that with the pitcher not throwing over, but that would then require them to ignore big leads all together. So if the runner takes a big lead the result is either no throw to push them back, or taking such a big lead that you get three throws.

tyton75 03-04-2014 01:29 PM
Baseball is what it is. Its the only sport without a clock, which is awesome. There are only minor things that can be done to "speed up the game" but its a long and slow game and I love it.

Its a past-time, not a passion.

Pablo 03-04-2014 01:30 PM
What does an average baseball game run?

3 hours, give or take ten minutes?

alnorth 03-04-2014 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10466412)
What does an average baseball game run?

3 hours, give or take ten minutes?
yeah, usually a few minutes over 3 hours.

So, it takes roughly 21 days out of your life to watch an entire regular season.

Archie F. Swin 03-04-2014 02:17 PM
25 pitches in, Reds 4 Royals 0

TLO 03-04-2014 02:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10466493)
25 pitches in, Reds 4 Royals 0
Whelp. Season's over.

BlackHelicopters 03-04-2014 02:25 PM
Game over dude. Game over.

Archie F. Swin 03-04-2014 02:27 PM
Duffs gettin cranked. Sounded like the nats mic was in the batter's box

gblowfish 03-04-2014 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10466521)
Duffs gettin cranked. Sounded like the nats mic was in the batter's box
After the game he should tell the press: "Eh, no biggie. I'm just working on my gopher ball..."

BlackHelicopters 03-04-2014 02:42 PM
Hit the bull, win a steak dinner.

mr. tegu 03-04-2014 02:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 10466411)
Baseball is what it is. Its the only sport without a clock, which is awesome. There are only minor things that can be done to "speed up the game" but its a long and slow game and I love it.

Its a past-time, not a passion.
I love it and it is a passion. :harumph:

I love having the games on during the week. You can have the game on and whether I am watching it intensely or just doing a little cooking, exercising, or whatever, it just works perfect as something to have on the TV.

C3HIEF3S 03-04-2014 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10466517)
Season over dude. Season over.
Fyp

C3HIEF3S 03-04-2014 02:59 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>An update on the lack of negotations between the Royals and James Shields. <a href="http://t.co/gIHXeTZuQh">http://t.co/gIHXeTZuQh</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/440952107441463296">March 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Spoiler!

sedated 03-04-2014 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10466521)
Duffs gettin cranked. Sounded like the nats mic was in the batter's box
Maybe, with an emphasis on lowering his pitch count, he is only throwing 1 or 2 types of pitches :shrug:

Kinda like when they told Grienke to pitch an entire game with just fastballs.

Archie F. Swin 03-04-2014 03:01 PM
Belly just hit a triple.....he'll probably be placed on IR...to catch his breath

C3HIEF3S 03-04-2014 03:01 PM
Hosmer ties it up, 3-run bomb!

mr. tegu 03-04-2014 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10466595)
Hosmer ties it up, 3-run bomb!
I am pre-ordering a custom frame for the KC Star paper when they print the headline "World Series Champs!"

AndChiefs 03-04-2014 03:05 PM
Offense looking good.

C3HIEF3S 03-04-2014 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10466599)
I am pre-ordering a custom frame for the KC Star paper when they print the headline "World Series Champs!"
Did you get one last year?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-...e-world-series

C3HIEF3S 03-04-2014 03:06 PM
Offense hitting Cueto well now. 6-4 coming off a Gordo triple and a Salvy double

TLO 03-04-2014 03:13 PM
Who started the game today?

Archie F. Swin 03-04-2014 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10466620)
Who started the game today?
Duffy

C3HIEF3S 03-04-2014 03:20 PM
Jason Donald brings in Maxwell, 7-4.

TLO 03-04-2014 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10466623)
Duffy
:(

duncan_idaho 03-04-2014 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10466226)
MLB needs to respond to the marketplace and shorten games. There is zero doubt fans want shorter games and surveys show this. When you factor in the 10-min attention span of their future customers, the milennials, it's a no-brainer. Calling strikes is one of the few options they have but when you do, you slash runs. To compensate you have to increase speed.


The move towards expanded instant replay is a step in the wrong direction. It'll bore the shit outta fans and increase game lengths. Sorry but a blown call over the course of 162 games isn't worth the endless delays coming on board.


Finally they should limit pitching changes. They're awful. Watching some of the NL playoffs those d-bag managers were doing multiple swaps in the same half inning. You should get 1 pitching change in an inning. ("You can't do that Bitch!" says Duncan. Yes we can! Yes we can!)
I'd actually be just fine with one pitching change an inning. I think that's a good idea. Though I'm sure NL honks would claim it takes the strategy out of the game... and then go masturbate to a montage of the best sac bunts of Tom Glavine's career.

Ultimately, I think deadening the ball would be the biggest helpful factor. Games would move faster. Fewer walks. More strikes thrown. Faster-paced games.

But it would depress offense, which probably is a bigger net loss in terms of fan appeal than speeding up the game.

Discuss Thrower 03-04-2014 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10467074)
I'd actually be just fine with one pitching change an inning. I think that's a good idea. Though I'm sure NL honks would claim it takes the strategy out of the game... and then go masturbate to a montage of the best sac bunts of Tom Glavine's career.

Ultimately, I think deadening the ball would be the biggest helpful factor. Games would move faster. Fewer walks. More strikes thrown. Faster-paced games.

But it would depress offense, which probably is a bigger net loss in terms of fan appeal than speeding up the game.
I mean is there any hard statistical evidence that you have to switch pitchers in those situations in order to win or is it just conventional baseball wisdom without the backing due to small sample size.

alnorth 03-04-2014 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10467074)
I'd actually be just fine with one pitching change an inning. I think that's a good idea. Though I'm sure NL honks would claim it takes the strategy out of the game... and then go masturbate to a montage of the best sac bunts of Tom Glavine's career.

Ultimately, I think deadening the ball would be the biggest helpful factor. Games would move faster. Fewer walks. More strikes thrown. Faster-paced games.

But it would depress offense, which probably is a bigger net loss in terms of fan appeal than speeding up the game.
The walk and HR rate is pretty much where it should be, I think. So, I'm not sure I agree with deadening the ball to reduce home runs even further.

There are too many strikeouts, and bringing the pitcher back another couple feet should fix that. I don't think the length of the game is a real problem right now, but reducing strikeouts and having more balls in play would incidentally shorten the game as well.

alnorth 03-04-2014 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10467101)
I mean is there any hard statistical evidence that you have to switch pitchers in those situations in order to win or is it just conventional baseball wisdom without the backing due to small sample size.
If you are playing to lefty/righty matchups then having multiple pitching changes can easily be statistically justified.

I don't see a problem with pitching changes, if a manager wants to buzzsaw through his entire bullpen, fine.

Deberg_1990 03-04-2014 07:44 PM
It sucks that some MLB games are 4 hours, but its probably a small percentage that are that long. I think its more a problem with the post season games than the regular season. nearly every post season game runs long now days.
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-King- 03-04-2014 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10467074)
I'd actually be just fine with one pitching change an inning. I think that's a good idea. Though I'm sure NL honks would claim it takes the strategy out of the game... and then go masturbate to a montage of the best sac bunts of Tom Glavine's career.

Ultimately, I think deadening the ball would be the biggest helpful factor. Games would move faster. Fewer walks. More strikes thrown. Faster-paced games.

But it would depress offense, which probably is a bigger net loss in terms of fan appeal than speeding up the game.
Wouldn't lessening pitching changes raise offensive outputs? Since you can't do a bunch of matchup based pitching changes and also because you're stuck with the 2nd pitcher even if he's giving up a lot of hits.

chiefsfan987 03-04-2014 07:54 PM
Since you're talking about speeding up the game, I think one thing they absolutely should do is force the batters to stay in the batters box. Once they get in, keep your ass in the batters box. Don't allow them to call time out or get out of the box every damn pitch unless they broke their bat or there was a wild pitch or something. You could take a lot of time off a game just by not allowing them to do that. When you come to the plate you should be ready to hit. I'm tired of the pitchers and hitters playing chicken.

-King- 03-04-2014 08:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 10467154)
Since you're talking about speeding up the game, I think one thing they absolutely should do is force the batters to stay in the batters box. Once they get in, keep your ass in the batters box. Don't allow them to call time out or get out of the box every damn pitch unless they broke their bat or there was a wild pitch or something. You could take a lot of time off a game just by not allowing them to do that. When you come to the plate you should be ready to hit. I'm tired of the pitchers and hitters playing chicken.
Hey, Cain needs to make 75 glove adjustments each at bat! Can't take that away from him.

But seriously, sometimes it does get pretty ridiculous, Cain being one of the worst offenders I see. There's no reason he needs to adjust his gloves every pitch.

alnorth 03-04-2014 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 10467154)
Since you're talking about speeding up the game, I think one thing they absolutely should do is force the batters to stay in the batters box. Once they get in, keep your ass in the batters box. Don't allow them to call time out or get out of the box every damn pitch unless they broke their bat or there was a wild pitch or something. You could take a lot of time off a game just by not allowing them to do that. When you come to the plate you should be ready to hit. I'm tired of the pitchers and hitters playing chicken.
I disagree.

This penny-ante stuff about regulating pitching changes or where a batter can stand seems worthless to me. As long as the pitcher throws 60.5 feet from the plate, the delay doesn't matter. Its already a 3 hour game, who cares about a few more or less minutes?

KChiefs1 03-04-2014 10:42 PM
Every day that passes I think this might happen.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-ervin-santana

Quote:
Kansas City Royals Need to Re-Sign Pitcher Ervin Santana

Associated Press Santana is still out there, and the Royals still need a starter.

It's March and Ervin Santana is still sitting out there in free agency without a home. The Kansas City Royals still have a glaring hole at the top of their starting rotation.

The solution for both sides would seem to be pretty simple at this point: a one-year deal for the $14.1 million qualifying offer that Santana turned down at the start of free agency. It allows both sides to save face and move forward for the 2014 season.

Santana would come back to the Royals with the understanding that the Royals would not place the compensation tag on Santana again after this season, making him a true free agent. They could also offer a handshake agreement to trade him if the team falls out of contention by the July trade deadline.

It seems obvious. But it hasn't happened yet. Why?

The 31-year-old Santana was excellent for Kansas City in 2013, and in the process, he salvaged his career and looked primed to cash in on a pitching-starved free-agent market. Don't be deceived by his 9-10 record; the rest of the numbers are indicative of a top-tier starter—a 3.24 ERA in 211 innings with a 1.142 WHIP.

The draft pick compensation has obviously become a bigger hindrance to all of the players and teams in MLB more than anyone would have anticipated. In the past, teams would not have been nearly so reluctant to surrender draft picks. Teams have now come to the understanding that young, cost-controlled prospects are the most valuable commodity in the sport.

This slow market should actually be helping the Royals at this point. At the start of free agency, it looked extremely unlikely that Santana would return to Kansas City. Now, unless Santana wants to give himself away, the Royals are clearly his best option at this point.

Which begs the question: What else might be holding up a deal for Santana?

Besides being reluctant to surrender a draft pick, teams might simply be wary of Santana's inconsistent performance and be unwilling to commit to a long-term deal when they are unsure of the return. Santana has always displayed tremendous stuff, but the results have mostly failed to live up to expectations during his career after a solid start.

Santana spent his first eight seasons with the Los Angeles Angels, posting a 96-80 record with a career ERA of 4.19. Indicative of his struggles to put it all together with the Angels was the fact that he only posted three seasons of a sub-4.00 ERA during in his eight-year stint with Los Angeles.

Payroll might be another factor playing a huge part in keeping the Royals from re-signing Santana. Last year, the Royals spent $81.8 million on player salaries. This year, they are already on the books for $90 million without Santana. Increasing payroll another $14 million might be tough to justify, but this would be a one-year deal to try and get the team to the playoffs.

This is a huge year for Kansas City. The Royals finished with a 86-76 record in 2013, good enough for third place in the AL Central. Kansas City has to seize the opportunity in front of it to try and make the playoffs this season. The Royals will likely lose staff ace James Shields to free agency at the end of the season, putting even more pressure on Kansas City to make the most of the 2014 season.

On paper, the Kansas City rotation will be led this season by Shields and veteran Jeremy Guthrie. Earlier in the winter, the Royals invested $32 million into a four-year deal with lefty Jason Vargas. The deal for Vargas seemed far too rich back in November and looks even worse now in March. That money looks like it would have been much better spent on trying to bring back Santana and solidifying the Royals rotation.

Kansas City general manager Dayton Moore and manager Ned Yost were both given two-year contract extensions, taking them both through the 2015 season. Even with the extensions, patience must be running out and there has to be some frustration from fans and ownership about the Royals' inability to get over the hump within the division. Last season was only the second time since 1993 that the Royals have finished with a winning record.

The Royals have a good, young core of position players like Alex Gordon, Eric Hosmer and Salvador Perez, along with a great bullpen headed by Greg Holland. The Royals are a team who might be capable of surprising in the American League this season

But without Santana, it's hard to see the Royals contending for a playoff spot.

duncan_idaho 03-05-2014 08:31 AM
Random thoughts today:

I still don't place any likelihood on it - especially since Santana's agent has taken the hard line stance that they want 4 years and $50 million and will wait until the day after the draft to sign, so the draft pick compensation doesn't apply - but signing Santana certainly would increase the upside for this season. And would likely have to be balanced out by trades that move guys like Hochevar and Davis and maybe even Crow for whatever return can be gained at this point, no matter how minimal it might be.

At that point, I think you see Chen start the year as the No. 5 starter, with both Ventura and Duffy in Omaha. Whichever of those two is performing better likely gets the call at the end sometime between end of April/middle May to take over the 5 spot, with Chen sliding to the bullpen.

And even if all that happened, I wouldn't be surprised if Vargas has a better season than Santana.

Anyway... on the subject of pitching... I have a little bit of optimism about John Lamb for the first time since Spring training of last year. He has to show he can maintain it over a full start/outing and over the course of a season, but if his velocity is back in the 90-94 range, that's a really nice cherry on top from a guy almost everyone had left for dead.

TINSTAAPP still applies to all of thse pitching prospects, but the more you have, the better your chances of hitting with some of them.

Unless you're the Mets. In which case your current trend seems to be that you hit with every single one of them.

TLO 03-05-2014 09:50 AM
Hochaver injured. UCL injury.

Best case scenario he's back in late May or June.

-King- 03-05-2014 09:50 AM
Luke Hochaver shut down for 2-4 weeks with a UCL sprain.
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C3HIEF3S 03-05-2014 09:50 AM
Hoch torn UCL. Out until may according to twitter.

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-05-2014 09:52 AM
http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/We...f2540e39cb.jpg

kcchiefsus 03-05-2014 10:02 AM
I guess no risk of him taking a starting spot now.

Canofbier 03-05-2014 10:07 AM
For those with MLB.tv, I think today will be our first chance to actually watch the Royals play this year! It's an Arizona broadcast, but something's better than nothing. I just hope that the streaming will work; I've had issues with the internet at work allowing me to do it. Fingers crossed!

Prison Bitch 03-05-2014 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10467074)
I'd actually be just fine with one pitching change an inning. I think that's a good idea. Though I'm sure NL honks would claim it takes the strategy out of the game... and then go masturbate to a montage of the best sac bunts of Tom Glavine's career. .
:clap:

WhawhaWhat 03-05-2014 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10467733)
Hochaver injured. UCL injury.

Best case scenario he's back in late May or June.
See ya next year Luke!

Sure-Oz 03-05-2014 11:00 AM
Not good in Hoch hopefully he can help later. Coleman has to be the next guy up

alnorth 03-05-2014 11:03 AM
I know we probably don't feel sorry for Hoch, but the timing is pretty terrible for him. This is his contract year, now even if he rehabs and pitches well for a half year, teams are going to want to see him healthy for a full year. Before this injury he was looking at a nice little payday as an elite FA reliever if he could repeat 2013.

duncan_idaho 03-05-2014 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10467938)
I know we probably don't feel sorry for Hoch, but the timing is pretty terrible for him. This is his contract year, now even if he rehabs and pitches well for a half year, teams are going to want to see him healthy for a full year. Before this injury he was looking at a nice little payday as an elite FA reliever if he could repeat 2013.
I don't feel sorry for Hochevar. I feel sorry for us as Royals fans.

Think this all but guarantees he's back on the team next year, probably making too much money to be a middle reliever who is still best used in low-leverage spots.

alnorth 03-05-2014 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10467956)
I don't feel sorry for Hochevar. I feel sorry for us as Royals fans.

Think this all but guarantees he's back on the team next year, probably making too much money to be a middle reliever who is still best used in low-leverage spots.
Oh hell, I didn't even think about that but you are probably right.

Chiefspants 03-05-2014 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10467735)
Hoch torn UCL. Out until may according to twitter.
Crap! I think the only way to replace this amount of talent is to sign Santana.

The light is green, Dayton.

alnorth 03-05-2014 12:41 PM
Hoch is probably going to the 60-day DL. That would free up not just an active roster spot, but also a 40-man roster spot.

What are we going to do with it?

edit: oh, and before anyone asks, we can't cut him like Bonifacio and save the money. We're now stuck with him and his salary due to injury.

cabletech94 03-05-2014 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10468052)
Crap! I think the only way to replace this amount of talent is to sign Santana.

The light is green, Dayton.
i was just going to say the exact thing. time for santana's return. come on home, buddy. come on home!!!

KCUnited 03-05-2014 12:55 PM
Coleman would be my guess.

BlackHelicopters 03-05-2014 01:34 PM
Bad timing.

TLO 03-05-2014 02:17 PM
Glad we still appear to be stacked in the pen.

C3HIEF3S 03-05-2014 02:42 PM
Shields dealing

Canofbier 03-05-2014 03:36 PM
Dwyer pitched like ass today. The only time he hit the strike zone is when he also hit a bat.

chiefsfan987 03-05-2014 03:42 PM
Nice to be able to watch today instead of just listen.

chiefsfan987 03-05-2014 03:48 PM
Way to go Moose! HR!

tmw4h5 03-05-2014 03:49 PM
BOOM.

tmw4h5 03-05-2014 03:49 PM
I like how the announcers called him out on his average against lefties last year and then he hits a bomb.

C3HIEF3S 03-05-2014 03:50 PM
That was a bomb!

BlackHelicopters 03-05-2014 03:50 PM
Moose!!!

SPchief 03-05-2014 03:52 PM
If Moose can carry this into the regular season, look out Detroit

Canofbier 03-05-2014 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmw4h5 (Post 10468385)
I like how the announcers called him out on his average against lefties last year and then he hits a bomb.
Hell, yeah! I couldn't help but smirk when that happened.

KCUnited 03-05-2014 04:55 PM
MLBtv: Salvador Pear-ez

C3HIEF3S 03-05-2014 05:09 PM
Royals beat the D-Backs 6-5

CaliforniaChief 03-05-2014 05:11 PM
Oh dear baby Jesus in your golden Pampers PLEASE let Moose do this all season.

And now I think it's time to put pride aside, put your balls to the wall, and get it done with Santana. Do that, and I think we're the favorite in the AL Central.

Sure-Oz 03-05-2014 05:12 PM
This is on MLB network right now for the replay

BlackHelicopters 03-05-2014 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10468492)
Royals beat the D-Backs 6-5
On track to be Cactus League champs again.

Deberg_1990 03-05-2014 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10468498)
On track to be Cactus League champs again.
of course we are! Because Roooooyalllls, Roooooyalllllsss........Wanna be your Ruuuler......Rullller.....

Mizzou_8541 03-05-2014 06:26 PM
So, Moustakas is having a great spring. Is there any reason to think this is an indicator of performance during the regular season, or should it just be disregarded? He had a pretty good spring last year, IIRC. I guess it's better than him playing poorly.

CaliforniaChief 03-05-2014 06:37 PM
I'm glad to see him slugging...how's he look in terms of physical conditioning?

alnorth 03-05-2014 06:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 10468609)
So, Moustakas is having a great spring. Is there any reason to think this is an indicator of performance during the regular season, or should it just be disregarded? He had a pretty good spring last year, IIRC. I guess it's better than him playing poorly.
For position players, that is the only value of spring. If you are doing poorly, then thats a reason to be concerned, but success has to be disregarded. A position player can't win spring, they can only lose.

For pitchers, you usually can't even do that much because they are often working on pitches and not necessarily trying to get anyone out. It might be somewhat useful if a pitcher is fighting for a job in the last couple weeks, if you know the pitcher is probably doing his best to win a job then spring isn't completely worthless.

CoMoChief 03-05-2014 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 10468609)
So, Moustakas is having a great spring. Is there any reason to think this is an indicator of performance during the regular season, or should it just be disregarded? He had a pretty good spring last year, IIRC. I guess it's better than him playing poorly.
He better have a breakout year. Him and Hosmer both.

It's the only way the Royals are going to have a real chance to compete for a playoff spot.

Mizzou_8541 03-05-2014 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10468631)
For position players, that is the only value of spring. If you are doing poorly, then thats a reason to be concerned, but success has to be disregarded. A position player can't win spring, they can only lose.

For pitchers, you usually can't even do that much because they are often working on pitches and not necessarily trying to get anyone out. It might be somewhat useful if a pitcher is fighting for a job in the last couple weeks, if you know the pitcher is probably doing his best to win a job then spring isn't completely worthless.
Yeah, that's what I figured. I'm a huge Royals fan, but don't really know shit about the intricacies of baseball. I'm rooting for him to breakout like CoMo said, and am trying hard to prevent myself from becoming even cautiously optimistic about his performance thus far in spring.

KChiefs1 03-05-2014 07:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 10468478)
MLBtv: Salvador Pear-ez
When Bethuine hosts Baseball Tonight it irritates me every time I hear him say it.

chefsos 03-05-2014 10:45 PM
I guess you held 'em to a FG the other day...Pretty stout defense.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh1dF2hCEAIXzmk.png

clyde05 03-06-2014 03:29 AM
So Shields won't talk extension when season starts, better get to moving on it Dayton.

alnorth 03-06-2014 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by clyde05 (Post 10469411)
So Shields won't talk extension when season starts, better get to moving on it Dayton.
We are not re-signing Shields, unless he really struggles this season. He's going to get a 9-digit contract, and unlike Santana the QO won't have much of an impact.


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