Let me get this striaght; in your scenario:

You develop and trade away a promising up-and-comer for a draft pick to select an unproven QB who will most likey not even be the top ranked QB in their class?

Have you thought this through...?

You should be neg-repped for that nonsense.

no reason to trade a UDFA unless you think other teams perceive the player to be much better than he is

If the team doesn't think Bray has 'it' but another team does and is will to overpay. Otherwise there is no reason to trade an extremely 'cheap' player to keep.

So...

The Chiefs luck out and get a franchise QB as an undrafted free agent, then turn their back on a veteran, allowing the fan base to finally rejoice in the pure splendor that is only reserved for those lucky few franchises that have elite quarterbacks.

or...

The Chiefs crush all of your dreams and hopes, because **** you.

What sounds more likely?

WTF does this even mean...?

I just think that it is more likely that, after a couple seasons, Bray shows enough talent to be worth a high pick in a trade but the coaching staff don't view him as a dependable leader going forward.

Vs.

Bray puts it all together and Dorsey/Reid tie their futures to him.

I really ****ing hope he does. I'd rather have a franchise QB without spending a first rounder on him. That's another impact player we could put on the team if Bray works out.

But the odds are against it. He has too much talent to not be worth something down the line, but you're lying to yourself if you think he's absolutely going to be untouchable. He might be. But it's no where near the most likely situation.

This is a joke. It's a joke that, even when great things fall in their lap, the Chiefs will **** it up.

Relax. Jeez.

did you just get your Bray tattoo or something?

No...but my jersey is suppose to be hear next week. [/no joke]

Nice.

Let me just clarify that I really, really, really, really REALLY want Bray to put it together, mature, and start kicking some ****ing ass and have a 15 year career in KC.

The next best scenario is that he doesn't really turn into that franchise guy, but has value the way Matt Schaub did. I could see that as a possibility as well.

But hey man, I'm drinking the Bray kool-aid. The Kool-Brayd.

I'm Cray Cray for Ty Bray.

The only reason to trade Bray, if he turns into something useful, would be if the team he was on was GB, or another team with a stud QB not going anywhere for the foreseeable future.

The Chiefs do not have that kind of QB.

Forgotten before they even donned pads. NEXT!

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...60&src=desktop

Tyler Wilson is 4th on a depth chart of shit QBs. Not good.

GAY! GAY! GAY-FOR-BRAY!

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The Tyler Wilson terrors were just the dumbest thing in the world.

He looked like absolute shit last season and his performance in the combine was either awful, disinterested or both. He's an inaccurate passer with average arm strength and poor athleticism. I'm more worried about Pryor getting his shit in order than I am Wilson.

That dude is a complete non-entity.

Apparently Pryor just learned how to properly throw a football, according to reports. Wow.

Chiefs are ideal environment for Tyler Bray to mature
By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star
Something will have gone terribly wrong in the Chiefs’ preseason that begins Friday night if Tyler Bray does not come out of it as the No. 3 quarterback. Actually, something will have gone wrong with the Chiefs’ evaluations if Bray isn’t a backup or even a starter in the future — whether it’s in Kansas City or somewhere else.

Internally, Bray has impressed the Chiefs’ decision makers as much as anyone in training camp. Bray is here, officially, as an undrafted free agent, but there has never been much doubt about his talent.

He is 6 feet 6 with the strongest arm of any Chiefs quarterback in years, the kind of physical gifts that NFL teams never let pass through the draft unless, well, let him tell it.

“I have to prove my maturity,” Bray says. “Lots of doubts about my maturity coming out of college, which I knew I had to fix. I’m just trying to be a man in football. I mean, not the man, but, just, be a man. Grow up. Know what you have to do. Study the playbook. It’s not about having fun anymore, it’s a job now. But you can have fun on the field.”

NFL preseasons are largely about finding time for backups and seeing what young players can do, which makes this, perhaps, the most important four-game stretch of Bray’s life.

He could’ve returned to Tennessee for his senior year to diminish the questions about his character, which have followed him for everything from throwing beer bottles and golf balls off his apartment balcony to accusations of selfishness and a general lack of leadership that led to his being benched in the second quarter of the Vanderbilt game last season.

Instead, Bray entered the draft and watched 11 quarterbacks get selected without his name being called. It’s worth noting that even those who thought Bray should’ve played another year in college thought he would be drafted, meaning there were likely some things in the evaluation process that lowered his stock even more.

The Chiefs considered drafting Bray, and were surprised he slipped all the way through. Even with the trade for Alex Smith and a three-year, $10 million contract for backup Chase Daniel, one of the Chiefs’ first phone calls after the draft was to Bray.

This is partly because incumbent No. 3 Ricky Stanzi has yet to show much promise, and partly because NFL teams never feel like they have enough quarterbacks.

But most of it is that Bray has real talent — NFL starter talent — and the Chiefs think they have the best environment to bring it out.

That makes this a real test, not just for Bray but also the Chiefs.

You can see where the Chiefs get their confidence. Andy Reid’s success in Philadelphia was built in large part on bringing out the best in his quarterbacks. Donovan McNabb became one of the league’s best. Michael Vick became an MVP candidate and an eight-figure earner again with Reid’s help. Kevin Kolb showed enough that the Cardinals traded and made him their No. 1 quarterback two years ago.

And it’s not just Reid, or even Reid and offensive coordinator Doug Pederson, who came along from Philadelphia. Smith has the reputation as one of the game’s brightest players and among the hardest workers. Daniel hasn’t taken a meaningful snap but has the same reputation for diligent work.

If Bray can’t make it here, the thinking goes, then there might not be a spot in the league for him.

It would take Bray leaving the Chiefs to find out for sure, so for now the focus is on what he can do here. And so far, every indication is positive.

In talking about what they’ve put on Bray, Reid describes it like “throwing a big book of French” at someone who doesn’t speak the language. Bray isn’t fluent, but is retaining bigger chunks than may have been expected.

More to the point, he’s putting in the work. Showing the right attitude, and attention. A positive force in the quarterbacks’ meetings.

In as much as you can judge early training camp, Bray has shown enough arm to make throws Smith and Daniel can’t — or, at the very least, enough gumption to try throws Smith and Daniel won’t.

Bray describes himself as “definitely not a scrambler,” but a tall pocket passer who sees the field wants to “either go deep or check it down.” Arm strength is the most overrated part of NFL quarterbacking, but it is a part, and Bray’s spot on the depth chart means he has time to work on the rest.

The work includes managing the sheer size of the playbook. Bray guesses there are 200 to 300 different plays, with different formations and motions. In college, he was in a no-huddle offense where the coaches relayed much of the information directly to receivers and running backs.

With the Chiefs, it all goes through the quarterback, so Bray needs to remember play calls up to 14 words long. Fourteen words, for one play, out of a few hundred.

I ask Bray if he could give me the example of a long play call.

He smiles.

“Definitely can’t give you that,” Bray says. “Definitely would get in trouble for that.”

He’s had enough trouble. He’s trying to leave that in the past.

Screw it. I'm pulln' for the kid.

I came about 4 times while reading that.

This kid has the potential to be the league's next Favre. Seriously.

Brett Favre or Ryan Leaf


lol

Hater. o:-)

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Yeah mother****er!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you rang?! :)

changed name doesn't count

Cutler.

Which is awesome. If you can get a Cutler with a staff that can work with him without overhauling the system for 3+ years, that's fantastic.

Not that it will take 3+ years for bray to be successful but the consistent turnover that Cutler's dealt with has not helped his development.

Marino is his ceiling or the lesser extent Drew Bledsoe.

Cutler is more mobile

That's fair. it's really the release/velocity/footwork that makes me think of Cutler.


Jay is more athletic/mobile.

Which is where Bray needs to get his shit together and get with Peyton Manning and examine the proper technique of footwork which will help him exponentially with his accuracy and loading up the ball.

Tom House.


Somebody spam Bray with Tom House links until he shows up there.

I envision him as our own, sweet little Rapelisburger.

A big Keanu-style WHOA on that Mellinger article, that calls for a big fat stiffy.

Talk is cheap, but the kid is certainly saying the right things... 6'6, always looks to throw before running, picking up the "french" better than anticipated, a coldcocker arm.

Looove it, i dont wanna jynx it... but this guy might be IT.

This shit is about to get real.

Fumblerooski

Bottom for Bray is gonna need a some Tylernull.

Kelce drops Bray's first TD...

http://i.imgur.com/C7QEG4A.gif

Kelce should've had that. Bray threw it only where he could catch it. If it was lower then 24 has a shot at it.

****ing Kelce lol

Damn Bray moves like a REAL ****ing QB.

Perfect throw.

@tbrayvol8: Had fun tonight in my first game. Hope to improve next week.

Is the text colouring in this thread messing up for anyone else?

no

Weird. This is what it looks like for me. Its like that for the entire page, but only in this thread.

http://i.imgur.com/wsN188K.png

I couldnt care less that Kelce dropped that, whats far more important is how fast that ball leaves Brays hand... the motion is so fast its barely discernable.

Give this guy a year or two under Reid and Smitty... oh my, yeah.

aw yiss

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/fit.gif

That is NO Matt Cassel/Smith.

Dude gives NO ****S about pressure in his grill.

@JinxAllessio: Tyler Bray >> Nassib and Jones

Who is that...?

Missed checkdown. Threw into double coverage.

I know as Chiefs fans its difficult to grasp but we are allowed to attempt more than checkdowns. Please more down field passing.

NFL draft dude.

Um...the checkdown was the right play there. That would have been an easy first down +.

It's been years since I've witnessed a deep like that from the Chiefs.

Call it any way you want. The wrong choice way made to move the ball. He was under pressure and every downfield receiver was in double coverage. The checkdown was the right choice.

Sexy Rexy fan club!

ROFL@ the usual suspects pining for the checkdown. JFC. Unbelievable.

Well, don't worry LC; you'll be getting more that you can cram in to your ****ing stat book this season.

He'll be alright. The fumble wasn't good but neither was the dropped TD by Kelce

@Jacobs71: Tyler Bray with the perfect pass to Rico Richardson in stride on the deep ball. Houses it. #Chiefs

@TJCarpenterWHB: Bray to Rico Richardson on a big play down the sideline. Alex Smith isn't making that throw. Bray still needs to do it in a game. #Chiefs

@KCChiefs_Reid: Final play for Bray, deep ball to Rico for the TD it #ChiefsCamp

Don't worry. He can throw the deep ball. Everything will work out. I'm sure of it. :thumb:

Did not recognize the pressure until too late. Relies too much on his arm to bail him out rather than making the correct decision. For him to be able to be successful throwing a deep ball, he must learn to be able to keep the defense honest. Missing the the open receiver and throwing into double coverage will negate his ability to throw deep passes successfully. But that really has always been his knock. Not being able to make the correct decision.

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He'll learn. I'm putting my stock where it belongs.

even when he opted not to check down and threw that deep ball into double coverage he tried to put in a spot where both defenders had no chance at it

yea it was inaccurate and sailed out of bounds on the back side shoulder of the WR, but the arm strength is there, and so is the ball placement more times than not


I'm fine with him throwing picks or whatever if it means we have a gunslinger than it will take a gamble with his arm strength and blow the top of the defense

a lot of these defenses are today are made to just cover and give up the dink and dunk, as because most QBs make their living in the short and intermediate game, so the middle is always cluttered.

While the Chiefs defense shined, the offense was able to exploit it around midway through practice, when, during 11-on-11, Chiefs QB Tyler Bray found WR Rico Richardson for the deep score, down the left sideline.



"It was just basically a double-move play," Richardson said. "I kind of figured Tyler (Bray) was going to come to me. He knows I’m fast and he says he loves fast receivers; it was basically a hitch-and-go. The DB bit on it and he threw it up and I went and got it."

Richardson had a few catches against the Saints. He might make a good 4th WR/slot guy.

Dude is a statue in the pocket though

I guess for that game at least, it was because the one time he tryed stepping up in the pocket, he got blindsided and fumbled.

Hoping all these tds from bray aren't against agnew
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I'm hoping Bray will get some time with OL that are higher on the depth chart.

I hope he has to learn to work with an average to sub-par line enough, so that he can get shit done regardless.

Getting Donald Stephenson back will be huge. Should get solid plsy from the tackles along with Kush in the center. I'd be willing to bet he'd get a chance behind them.

When I was there, Kush wasnt good at all.

He can't shotgun snap at all and has trouble anchoring and identifying what the defense was doing.

I really hope Hudson is able to stay healthy this year.

C'mon guys...where are the camp updates?

@Jacobs71: Bray taking a piss. Tries to get cute and backs up 2 feet to test his stream strength. Tiny bit of spillage. #Chiefs

@Jacobs71: Bray telling Andy Reid fat jokes. Finishes the punchline just moments before coach walks into meeting room. Clutch. #Chiefs

@tbrayvol8: **** yeah I can eat all these hamburgers #challengeaccepted

@KCChiefs_Reid: Bray had to use the bathroom during practice and mistakingly took a shit on Chase Daniel's face #ChiefsCamp