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DeezNutz 01-02-2013 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9270379)
It would've been strange if he wasn't, to be honest.

Even if he has no authority at this point, he was responsible for virtually all Football opps for the last 4 years. If Andy Reid has a question relating to Opps, Pioli would've been the person to answer it.

Honestly, Pioli had to be in that room. Hunt could've gotten cornered and turned into a yammering buffoon had the wrong question been asked and he had no answer for it. With Pioli in the room, he can gracefully toss the question to the person that was responsible for the day to day operations. If Pioli isn't there, the conversation essentially halts on the subject and you have the interview equivalent of an awkward silence.

If Pioli is still in this organization, he has to be in that room. Period. Should Hunt have fired him outright and given those questions to Farmer? Perhaps, but that's not what happened.

If this is how Clark wants to do this, then Pioli has to be there to keep the interview going smoothly. The worst thing that could happen would be an awkward interview that causes them to lose Reid's interest and gets him on a plane to AZ without an offer.
You're far overstating Pioli's role, and I realize that your post is going to inspire a lot of "This's's's!!!" because it quells fears.

Pioli was in charge of football operations. No doubt. But he didn't hold the golden key to this super-secret, ultra-elaborate operation that only he could understand, despite the fact that he tried to run things like this was the case.

If he's not there and a person like Farmer is, the interview goes just as smoothly as any interview for an organization trying to find a GM.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 06:58 PM
Yeah, this is reeruned. Pioli is the guy that has the team knowledge. He's not going ANYWHERE until someone is hired, and the fact that anyone is even concerned about it is stupid. Prospective coaches are going to have questions, and he's literally the only guy in the building that can answer them.

shaggyshane 01-02-2013 06:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270322)
It's all bullshit. He brought Pioli so Reid could learn about the team the same way he kept Herman ****ing Edwards so Pioli could. Pioli isn't coming back.
That is all we can hope for... :(

65TossPowerTrap 01-02-2013 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9270379)
It would've been strange if he wasn't, to be honest.

Even if he has no authority at this point, he was responsible for virtually all Football opps for the last 4 years. If Andy Reid has a question relating to Opps, Pioli would've been the person to answer it.

Honestly, Pioli had to be in that room. Hunt could've gotten cornered and turned into a yammering buffoon had the wrong question been asked and he had no answer for it. With Pioli in the room, he can gracefully toss the question to the person that was responsible for the day to day operations. If Pioli isn't there, the conversation essentially halts on the subject and you have the interview equivalent of an awkward silence.

If Pioli is still in this organization, he has to be in that room. Period. Should Hunt have fired him outright and given those questions to Farmer? Perhaps, but that's not what happened.

If this is how Clark wants to do this, then Pioli has to be there to keep the interview going smoothly. The worst thing that could happen would be an awkward interview that causes them to lose Reid's interest and gets him on a plane to AZ without an offer.
That's an awesome post :clap:

Excellent summation

O.city 01-02-2013 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9270386)
Yea whatever.

And you also say that not knowing what the deal is with Pioli or at what capacity he is going to be retained.

Fact is if Clark owes Pioli say $10MM if he cuts bait now so he puts him in the corner and hires Reid to run the team and its a success, yea people will bitch every time they hear Pioli's name but if the team wins and shows promise who gives a ****?

Is the goal to win the SB or do we get a trophy for Pioli getting fired too?

I want the ****er gone too but I am not going to make assumptions when I dont have all the info. I imagine more info will come out eventually.

People here talk like firing Pioli is no big thing, maybe its not but what I have seen and heard tells me it is a big issue or he would already be gone.This place is absolutely great at spending other people's $ though so why should that play a roll in anything now?
It's not my money, why should I give a ****?


However, when I start paying my money for the product, a product severely negatively affected by Scott, I'm gonna voice an opinion, while not spending any money.

ILChief 01-02-2013 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9270398)
Pioli is pretty good at the GM job. Everyone hates him because he was doing far more than being just the GM. Yeah he let Carr go, because he was smart enough to know you don't pay your #2 CB more than your #1. Other than that he did a great job of retaining guys like Charles, DJ, Hali, and Flowers. Just because we had the cap space, doesn't make it OK to throw out stupid contracts to a player that wanted to go play for his favorite team anyways.

Just because his role is reduced greatly, doesn't mean he isn't doing anything anymore. Most GM's don't have the kind of power he had, unless they also owned the team like Jerry Jones.

Clark Hunt will be more involved, as will the HC. It wont be Don Pioli anymore, just GM. It would be pretty similar to his role with Bill in NE when they won three Super Bowls together.
Yeah his QB and coaching hires were money

Frosty 01-02-2013 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9270406)
Yeah his QB and coaching hires were money
Along with his drafts. :rolleyes:

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2013 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270391)
Meh, I started off being serious.



But with the feedback I was getting, it was too good to be true. ROFL
I catch you every damn time man.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9270386)
Yea whatever.

And you also say that not knowing what the deal is with Pioli or at what capacity he is going to be retained.

Fact is if Clark owes Pioli say $10MM if he cuts bait now so he puts him in the corner and hires Reid to run the team and its a success, yea people will bitch every time they hear Pioli's name but if the team wins and shows promise who gives a ****?

Is the goal to win the SB or do we get a trophy for Pioli getting fired too?

I want the ****er gone too but I am not going to make assumptions when I dont have all the info. I imagine more info will come out eventually.

People here talk like firing Pioli is no big thing, maybe its not but what I have seen and heard tells me it is a big issue or he would already be gone.This place is absolutely great at spending other people's $ though so why should that play a roll in anything now?
It's possible that I was being ironical because of the Royals reference. This is a prime example of an owner, literally, not trying to win for over a decade, fist ****ing an entire fan base in the process, and the fans keep begging for more anal.

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2013 07:01 PM
I hate that Scott is still around, but I am happy that Clark has taken a more proactive role and reduced Scott's power. I can take some comfort in that.

O.city 01-02-2013 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9270412)
I catch you every damn time man.
I know, if you'd leave me alone and let me do my thing, I could probably cause the server to catch fire.

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9270398)
Pioli is pretty good at the GM job. Everyone hates him because he was doing far more than being just the GM. Yeah he let Carr go, because he was smart enough to know you don't pay your #2 CB more than your #1. Other than that he did a great job of retaining guys like Charles, DJ, Hali, and Flowers. Just because we had the cap space, doesn't make it OK to throw out stupid contracts to a player that wanted to go play for his favorite team anyways.

Just because his role is reduced greatly, doesn't mean he isn't doing anything anymore. Most GM's don't have the kind of power he had, unless they also owned the team like Jerry Jones.

Clark Hunt will be more involved, as will the HC. It wont be Don Pioli anymore, just GM. It would be pretty similar to his role with Bill in NE when they won three Super Bowls together.
Pretty good at the GM job? LOL WUT?

BigRedChief 01-02-2013 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9270301)
I really wana know some details Flopnuts and whoever is in the know how
My radio guy has been pretty much with his info so far so take it for what its worth.......... he says Pioli's nuts are cut off. He's on these interviews for chemistry only. This hire is Clark's and Clark's alone.

Marcellus 01-02-2013 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270405)
It's not my money, why should I give a ****?


However, when I start paying my money for the product, a product severely negatively affected by Scott, I'm gonna voice an opinion, while not spending any money.
I always laugh when people make that statements and it goes on here a lot.

No problem if you feel that way, just don't expect the guy writing that $7.5MM or whatever it is check to have the same "who gives a ****" attitude you do. That's reeruned.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2013 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270416)
I know, if you'd leave me alone and let me do my thing, I could probably cause the server to catch fire.
Your rep would certainly be a different color :)

dirk digler 01-02-2013 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270400)
Yeah, this is reeruned. Pioli is the guy that has the team knowledge. He's not going ANYWHERE until someone is hired, and the fact that anyone is even concerned about it is stupid. Prospective coaches are going to have questions, and he's literally the only guy in the building that can answer them.
What about Joel Collier who is the Assistant GM?

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270400)
Yeah, this is reeruned. Pioli is the guy that has the team knowledge. He's not going ANYWHERE until someone is hired, and the fact that anyone is even concerned about it is stupid. Prospective coaches are going to have questions, and he's literally the only guy in the building that can answer them.
Of course. I mean, who else could possibly decipher the riddle of KC's QB position? Imagine if Reid asked why that was such an abortion...What could Clark say?

I know what I'd say: "Pioli."

(Everyone silently nods their head.)

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 07:03 PM
That might, in all of the bullshit on this board, be the most hilarious post of the entire 2012 season.

Pioli is pretty good at the GM job.

You know why everyone hates him? Because his ****ing teams finished last 3 out of 4 years. He can't find a QB or a coach and he can't draft for shit.

But yeah, we all hate him because he's an asshole.

If he won, found a QB, I don't care if he told my mother to **** herself with a broom handle and he mooned my grandmother.

Sweet ****ing christ.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty (Post 9270393)
Some of us don't have your cell #. :shrug:
You do now. :thumb:

O.city 01-02-2013 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9270419)
I always laugh when people make that statements and it goes on here a lot.

No problem if you feel that way, just don't expect the guy writing that $7.5MM or whatever it is check to have the same "who gives a ****" attitude you do. That's reeruned.
It most certainly is not my money. But as a public figure who owns a public franchise that has it's own fans, he isn't above being ridiculed for it.

RustShack 01-02-2013 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9270406)
Yeah his QB and coaching hires were money
HC Haley
OC Weis
DC Crennel

Yeah, that was a money deal. Haley's ego got in the way of Weis staying. Haley was bitting off more than he could chew as was Pioli. The problem with the Chiefs lately has been Ego's.. something that Clark is fixing.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9270399)
You're far overstating Pioli's role, and I realize that your post is going to inspire a lot of "This's's's!!!" because it quells fears.

Pioli was in charge of football operations. No doubt. But he didn't hold the golden key to this super-secret, ultra-elaborate operation that only he could understand, despite the fact that he tried to run things like this was the case.

If he's not there and a person like Farmer is, the interview goes just as smoothly as any interview for an organization trying to find a GM.
If I'm overstating his role in the day to day ops, you could very easily be overstating his role in the interview.

Like I said, I've had several people in the room during interviews that I don't turn to for their opinion on a hire. Those people are there for informational purposes. Its not dissimilar from a standard ol' business deal - I want people in the room that can answer questions before I ultimately make a decision.

He was there - that's all we know. That, in a vacuum, means absolutely nothing. If I'm Clark and I've chosen this route, then I'd have had him in there as well. If nothing else, an extra voice will often get me to look at a different angle or provide an idea for an additional question/comment.

Don't panic just yet. There will be plenty of time for that later.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9270422)
What about Joel Collier who is the Assistant GM?
C'mon, man.

We've heard stories for 4 years about how Pioli literally runs the Chiefs, down to the amount of copies made, the type of coffee, the access the media has to the pisser.

Do you honestly think Joel Collier or Ray Farmer have any ****ing stick around that place?

O.city 01-02-2013 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9270421)
Your rep would certainly be a different color :)
Actually, I haven't gotten any negative in here.


We are just having a good convo I guess.

Marcellus 01-02-2013 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270431)
It most certainly is not my money. But as a public figure who owns a public franchise that has it's own fans, he isn't above being ridiculed for it.
Never said he doesn't deserve criticism dude, I am just simply saying if he owes Pioli a shit ton of $, that would be his fault, but it would also play a roll in all this.

Everyone expects Pioli should have been fired 2 days ago not knowing anything about his buy out or the legal situation with the law suits and how that effects things.

KCUnited 01-02-2013 07:07 PM
So we've gone from Pioli was in ATL because he set up those interviews before getting neutered to he's in Philly because nobody knows the team like he does.

ILChief 01-02-2013 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9270432)
HC Haley
OC Weis
DC Crennel

Yeah, that was a money deal. Haley's ego got in the way of Weis staying. Haley was bitting off more than he could chew as was Pioli. The problem with the Chiefs lately has been Ego's.. something that Clark is fixing.
Matt Cassel/Brady Quinn/tyler palko?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9270422)
What about Joel Collier who is the Assistant GM?
The guy who gets Pioli's coffee? No, it needs to be the control freak himself in my estimation.

RustShack 01-02-2013 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9270417)
Pretty good at the GM job? LOL WUT?
Chiefs are loaded with talent, and have a shit ton of cap space. Thats a good job by the GM. Coaching has been a problem, and thats something Pioli isn't going to be controlling anymore. Good coach and good QB, this is a good team.

I have faith in Clark delivering Reid and Geno.

Pretty similar to great OC/DC's not being good HC's. Pioli does some things well, he just can't do it all.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9270434)
If I'm overstating his role in the day to day ops, you could very easily be overstating his role in the interview.

Like I said, I've had several people in the room during interviews that I don't turn to for their opinion on a hire. Those people are there for informational purposes. Its not dissimilar from a standard ol' business deal - I want people in the room that can answer questions before I ultimately make a decision.

He was there - that's all we know. That, in a vacuum, means absolutely nothing. If I'm Clark and I've chosen this route, then I'd have had him in there as well. If nothing else, an extra voice will often get me to look at a different angle or provide an idea for an additional question/comment.

Don't panic just yet. There will be plenty of time for that later.
Would you have your prior superior in the room, the same individual whom you've likened to Pioli?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 07:08 PM
Johnny Kane‏@johnnykane9

Hunt-Reid meeting adjourned after approximately 9-hours around 7 PM ET. Reid still scheduled to fly to AZ tomorrow. #Chiefs

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 07:08 PM
Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

Essentially Pioli will most likely have to accept a reduced roll and do what Reid says if he says with #chiefs stay tuned!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2013 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9270427)
That might, in all of the bullshit on this board, be the most hilarious post of the entire 2012 season.

Pioli is pretty good at the GM job.

You know why everyone hates him? Because his ****ing teams finished last 3 out of 4 years. He can't find a QB or a coach and he can't draft for shit.

But yeah, we all hate him because he's an asshole.

If he won, found a QB, I don't care if he told my mother to **** herself with a broom handle and he mooned my grandmother.

Sweet ****ing christ.
It's the same guy that picks the Clones to do big things every year, so it's probably not even HIS worst post. Steele Jantz for Heisman!!!

Marcellus 01-02-2013 07:09 PM
My guess is Clark is keeping Pioli close to his side because he doesn't want him out of his sight until the coach thing is done.

Imagine if Pioli was back in KC on the phones stirring up shit in the background making it hard for Clark to hire a guy?

If he is in the room with him, he knows where he is and what he is doing.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9270439)
Everyone expects Pioli should have been fired 2 days ago not knowing anything about his buy out or the legal situation with the law suits and how that effects things.
Have no problem with him not being officially fired, yet. Have a serious problem with him being a part of the traveling circus that's interviewing candidates.

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2013 07:09 PM
****. Shouldnt have let him leave.

ILChief 01-02-2013 07:10 PM
RustShack has to be trolling

Marcellus 01-02-2013 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9270457)
Have no problem with him not being officially fired, yet. Have a serious problem with him being a part of the traveling circus that's interviewing candidates.
See post right above yours.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 07:10 PM
Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

Hearing that IF Reid is hired, he will make the final call on future of Pioli. #chiefs

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270447)
Johnny Kane‏@johnnykane9

Hunt-Reid meeting adjourned after approximately 9-hours around 7 PM ET. Reid still scheduled to fly to AZ tomorrow. #Chiefs
Wow.

If they don't get him, it's not from a lack of trying.

I can't say I've heard of an NFL interview going 9 hours. I've heard of some going 5-6, but never this long.

Certainly isn't a bad sign.

the Talking Can 01-02-2013 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9270441)
So we've gone from Pioli was in ATL because he set up those interviews before getting neutered to he's in Philly because nobody knows the team like he does.
no, we've gone from raising money in order to launch a promotional campaign intended to get pioli fired to deciding that it's fine if he stays because he isn't a cancer and maybe a decent GM really anyways....

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2013 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9270398)
Pioli is pretty good at the GM job. Everyone hates him because he was doing far more than being just the GM. Yeah he let Carr go, because he was smart enough to know you don't pay your #2 CB more than your #1. Other than that he did a great job of retaining guys like Charles, DJ, Hali, and Flowers. Just because we had the cap space, doesn't make it OK to throw out stupid contracts to a player that wanted to go play for his favorite team anyways.

Just because his role is reduced greatly, doesn't mean he isn't doing anything anymore. Most GM's don't have the kind of power he had, unless they also owned the team like Jerry Jones.

Clark Hunt will be more involved, as will the HC. It wont be Don Pioli anymore, just GM. It would be pretty similar to his role with Bill in NE when they won three Super Bowls together.
:spock:

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9270457)
Have no problem with him not being officially fired, yet. Have a serious problem with him being a part of the traveling circus that's interviewing candidates.
Dollars to doughnuts he's not interviewing. He's doing nothing but answering questions. He has to be so humiliated. ROFL

O.city 01-02-2013 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270463)
Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

Hearing that IF Reid is hired, he will make the final call on future of Pioli. #chiefs
Great to know.

The Bad Guy 01-02-2013 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9270444)
Chiefs are loaded with talent, and have a shit ton of cap space. Thats a good job by the GM. Coaching has been a problem, and thats something Pioli isn't going to be controlling anymore. Good coach and good QB, this is a good team.

I have faith in Clark delivering Reid and Geno.

Pretty similar to great OC/DC's not being good HC's. Pioli does some things well, he just can't do it all.
Loaded with talent?

Who gives a shit how much cap space you have when you finish last in the division 3 out of 4 years?

That's not a good job by the GM.

The GM's primary job is putting a winner on the field. Can't do it all? What scale do you grade on? This might be honestly the most absurd post on this board.

Forgive me for expecting the GM to put one legit QB on the roster, draft well and find not be on his 3rd head coach in 5 years.

dirk digler 01-02-2013 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270435)
C'mon, man.

We've heard stories for 4 years about how Pioli literally runs the Chiefs, down to the amount of copies made, the type of coffee, the access the media has to the pisser.

Do you honestly think Joel Collier or Ray Farmer have any ****ing stick around that place?
Collier was hand picked by Pioli and is a NE guy I have no doubt he knows what goes on.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9270446)
Would you have your prior superior in the room, the same individual whom you've likened to Pioli?
Me? No - but you're screwing up the roles.

The person running that particular room isn't me - its our founding partner. And yes, I guarantee you that he would have my prior superior in the room for the next major decision.

Inertia is a powerful thing.

Like I said - I'd have fired Pioli and had Farmer there. But if Pioli is still in the organization, you have to have him in the room.

Deberg_1990 01-02-2013 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270463)
Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

Hearing that IF Reid is hired, he will make the final call on future of Pioli. #chiefs
GTFO Pioli!
Posted via Mobile Device

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9270461)
See post right above yours.
Don't buy it. Pioli isn't with Clark so that the latter can "keep an eye on him." That doesn't pass the common sense sniff test to me.

If he's that paranoid about Pioli and views him as that cancerous, he could take other measures: 1. Ban from Arrowhead. 2. Allow at Arrowhead with limited access to tech. and files. 3. Etc.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270469)
Great to know.
It's what Clark has implied all along.

This isn't new news.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2013 07:11 PM
I have to say....I REALLY want Reid hired as HC of this team.

the Talking Can 01-02-2013 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9270455)
My guess is Clark is keeping Pioli close to his side because he doesn't want him out of his sight until the coach thing is done.

Imagine if Pioli was back in KC on the phones stirring up shit in the background making it hard for Clark to hire a guy?

If he is in the room with him, he knows where he is and what he is doing.
so clark is going to sleep with pioli, and accompany him everywhere till he hires someone...so he "knows where he is and what he is doing?"

any clue how dumb that sounds?

Hammock Parties 01-02-2013 07:12 PM
Read all that shit and only one thing matters.

Clark met with Sir Walrus for 9 hours.

If Sir Walrus is hired, Pioli's media mouthpiece stated Pioli was out.

Warming up RoboCop NOW.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9270444)
Chiefs are loaded with talent, and have a shit ton of cap space. Thats a good job by the GM. Coaching has been a problem, and thats something Pioli isn't going to be controlling anymore. Good coach and good QB, this is a good team.

I have faith in Clark delivering Reid and Geno.

Pretty similar to great OC/DC's not being good HC's. Pioli does some things well, he just can't do it all.
Wow.

Someone has lost all credibility with me around here, that's for damn sure.

This is just a completely insane statement. The Chiefs are comparable to the Cardinals...a 4-12 football team. They most assuredly are not 'loaded with talent' and dingle**** most assuredly did not play a major role in acquiring the meager talent they do have.

You're just flat-ass wrong here. Scott Pioli is a terrible GM.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9270470)
Loaded with talent?

Who gives a shit how much cap space you have when you finish last in the division 3 out of 4 years?

That's not a good job by the GM.

The GM's primary job is putting a winner on the field. Can't do it all? What scale do you grade on? This might be honestly the most absurd post on this board.

Forgive me for expecting the GM to put one legit QB on the roster, draft well and find not be on his 3rd head coach in 5 years.
Teams that are loaded with talent win more than 23 games in 4 years.

A LOT MORE.

Marcellus 01-02-2013 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9270471)
Collier was hand picked by Pioli and is a NE guy I have no doubt he knows what goes on.
I have no doubt we dont really know jack or shit about who knows what at 1 Arrowhead with Pioli running the place and looking for candy wrappers.


I do know that people who are insecure typically are afraid to let their subordinates know what they know in fear they will become better at their job than they are.

RunKC 01-02-2013 07:13 PM
Should we be worried that Reid left our meeting and he isn't signed on with us?

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9270478)
I have to say....I REALLY want Reid hired as HC of this team.
I do as well - but really only because the alternatives are downright ****ed.

ILChief 01-02-2013 07:13 PM
I will give Pioli credit for a few things:

Justin Houston
He has built a pretty good young offensive line without burning a first round pick
Poe looked better than I thought he would

But that is negated by the QB situation and coaching hire and Tyson Jackson

mcaj22 01-02-2013 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9270398)
Pioli is pretty good at the GM job. Everyone hates him because he was doing far more than being just the GM. Yeah he let Carr go, because he was smart enough to know you don't pay your #2 CB more than your #1. Other than that he did a great job of retaining guys like Charles, DJ, Hali, and Flowers. Just because we had the cap space, doesn't make it OK to throw out stupid contracts to a player that wanted to go play for his favorite team anyways.

Just because his role is reduced greatly, doesn't mean he isn't doing anything anymore. Most GM's don't have the kind of power he had, unless they also owned the team like Jerry Jones.

Clark Hunt will be more involved, as will the HC. It wont be Don Pioli anymore, just GM. It would be pretty similar to his role with Bill in NE when they won three Super Bowls together.


haha holy shit

Easy 6 01-02-2013 07:14 PM
HATE hearing that Reid will still go to arizona, nothings ever easy around here... no quick resolutions.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270468)
Dollars to doughnuts he's not interviewing. He's doing nothing but answering questions. He has to be so humiliated. ROFL
This deserves to be repeated.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2013 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270447)
Johnny Kane‏@johnnykane9

Hunt-Reid meeting adjourned after approximately 9-hours around 7 PM ET. Reid still scheduled to fly to AZ tomorrow. #Chiefs
If he gets on that plane, they lose him.

I'm not sure what else can be said that hasn't been said over 9 hours. Either he wants to be here and they offered him enough to make it happen, or he's gone.

Hunt needs to get that deal done before he heads to Arizona, IMO.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2013 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270489)
I do as well - but really only because the alternatives are downright ****ed.
Pretty much. Good with QB's and a winner to boot.

Who the hell is Plan B? Scary.

ILChief 01-02-2013 07:16 PM
Well if he doesn't fly out till tomorrow they could still make a deal

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 07:16 PM
Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot

If former #Eagles HC Andy Reid takes KC job, expect him to call on old pal former #Browns' GM Tom Heckert as his GM. Pioli would be out.

Hoover 01-02-2013 07:16 PM
Nine hours is nothing.

Signed,

Eric Winston

P.S. FU Fans

BigRedChief 01-02-2013 07:16 PM
Twitterverse is saying that Reid is still going to AZ.

But a 9 hour interview is very unusual. If its not a done deal I'd sure like to know why not.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2013 07:16 PM
Chill out. The Bidwells have proven over the years they run a franchise like ass.

Don't know how to say it any clearer. That's a cheapass owner.

dirk digler 01-02-2013 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9270487)
Should we be worried that Reid left our meeting and he isn't signed on with us?
No that is actually a good sign that means he isn't coming here :)

Marcellus 01-02-2013 07:17 PM
Too bad they weren't meeting on Jerry Jones' plane then we know it would have gotten done.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9270497)
If he gets on that plane, they lose him.

I'm not sure what else can be said that hasn't been said over 9 hours. Either he wants to be here and they offered him enough to make it happen, or he's gone.

Hunt needs to get that deal done before he heads to Arizona, IMO.
Yeah, that ship has sailed. Arizona wants to interview a ton of candidates. We'll know everything we need to know by Friday. Of that, I'm positive.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9270510)
Chill out. The Bidwells have proven over the years they run a franchise like ass.

Don't know how to say it any clearer. That's a cheapass owner.
Much different from the Hunt narrative. Wait.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270489)
I do as well - but really only because the alternatives are downright ****ed.
Same here. Not a good sign that he's still apparently going to AZ.

Marcellus 01-02-2013 07:19 PM
Funny thing is I am not even certain I want Reid, I just know I would be pissed about being jilted and know Reid wouldn't take Pioli or at least bow to him.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9270357)
If Hunt brings Pioli back, thus demonstrating that he's a piece of shit owner who doesn't care about winning, I'm done.

All my energy goes to the Royals.
Lol.

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the Talking Can 01-02-2013 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270505)
Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot

If former #Eagles HC Andy Reid takes KC job, expect him to call on old pal former #Browns' GM Tom Heckert as his GM. Pioli would be out.

and then i can party

ILChief 01-02-2013 07:19 PM
I hope Arizona really likes Horton

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 07:19 PM
Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot

If former #Eagles HC Andy Reid takes KC job, expect him to call on old pal former #Browns' GM Tom Heckert as his GM. Pioli would be out.

TEX 01-02-2013 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9270513)
Too bad they weren't meeting on Jerry Jones' plane then we know it would have gotten done.
Yep.


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