Yeah, because I talked so much shit last time. You must be confused, dawg. I will talk all the shit in the world about your toothless meth producing/smoking fans or your lack of any significant achievements as far as your teams go, but I did not talk shit about you getting screwed by the Big10 nor would I talk shit or "lead the cheersquad" should it ever come out that you never had an SEC invite. At least you were in the discussion, that's more than I can say about my school.

It's not tough talk. I'm just aware of the fact that Texas is by far the richest public school AD in the country. Why should it not have a bigger cut of the TV money than my school when they're the reason the conference is getting these massive TV contracts in the first place? My school splits an incredibly low-population state with another BCS school and has a shitty football program. I know KU's place and I take my joys in KU's success where I can get them (you know, the BCS win and the Final Fours). I'm a proud Jayhawk, but I'm not going to sit here and lament about my school getting a couple million less a year than juggernauts like UT and OU. That's how capitalism works.

KU would struggle in the Valley. See UNI and Bradley in basketball and NDSU in football. ;)

No, Nebraska fans are a bunch of assholes because...well they just are. They were assholes before they went to the B1G. Their behavior since they left has only confirmed it. Nubs fans suck donkey dicks, they always have, they always will and it doesn't matter what conference they're in. Tom Osborne is a big asshole because he went out there and absolutely blistered MU with no discernable cause on his way out the door.

Colorado - they're cool; UT and Nebraska tend to hate them. I hold Colorado in no ill-regard whatsoever. Good for them. They got a hell of a life raft and are going to be far FAR happier where they are then where they were.

A&M is a bunch of assholes if for no other reason than the fact that they're crying foul over revenue sharing when they were one of only 4 teams in the Conference that already got an unequal cut of it. UT, OU, NEB and A&M created the system and benefited most from it and suddenly A&M is losing its shit. Oh, and the other 3 schools have won not only bowl games, but national championships since the inception of the XII. In essence, A&M is less a pack of assholes and more a staggering example of hypocrisy, pride and jealousy in action.

And I'm sure every alumni of Nebraska and A&M would argue otherwise and every scared shitless Beaker, Wildcat or Cyclone that sees their major conference affiliation hanging in the balance will marshall a similar argument against Mizzou. Its truly hilarous how transparent guys like Rustshack are when they act all indignant over MU's 'indecision' or 'entitlement' when its really just the fact that he knows that Iowa State is up shits creek if the XII detonates.

Like I said - I really don't give a rip what the Beakers think, or the Nubs, or Eco-Kat and her fuzzy little buddies. I care about Mizzou and them alone. I know they'll screw this up and probably end up in worse shape than Baylor when all is said and done, but it doesn't keep me from knowing what I want to see from them.

I don't think there's an appearance of impropriety here. I think there is a misleading news story. What if someone wrote an article about how Neinas helped Joe Castiglione, Mike Alden, and Gary Pinkle get their jobs (which is true, as I understand it). Would that damn him because of the appearance that he was in bed with OU and MU? The truth is that Neinas was selected (and approved by non-Texas schools) because he's connected to all of these programs and none of them see him as a puppet of any one program.

Edit: I also suspect that he was selected because he's not likely to want to do this job long term and he's more likely to be unbiased as to his successor than a guy who wants the job permanently.

He announced it? A joint venture? I don't think that's accurate.

Is your name Tim, n00b? STFU

Yeah, how many National Championships in BB does Bradley have again? UNI? Mid Majors have had a nice run lately, hopefully it will continue.

Honestly, the BB competition might be better in the valley. In looking at football records, Mizzou has been on a very nice run since 2005 without a doubt. The Sooners have really had their number though, damn.

JFC, can we just get you in the stirrups and bring the UT gyno and an icy speculum to give you a nice sensitive dusting and cleaning?

**** it all, just call Deaton and tell him you demand to go the SEC.

This post had to pass through Pac-10 smelling interwebz connections, so expect numerous incoming reps and PMs from your Kansas betters (read: crimson).

:deevee:

LMAO

easy, I take all that back. My ****ing irritability meter is pegged in the red over this shit. I'm tired of the whole ****ing mess.

My apologies.

Apparently T. Boone Pickens is concerned:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...issouri-leaves

They are also a couple of tweets floating around that Mizzou has not committed to the Big XII, even though they are all currently meeting in Dallas. More interesting stuff to come, I am sure.

And apparently the University of Kentucky is in Mizzou's corner as well:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...ege-basketball

Quoted and followed up with unnecessary prose in order to show my complete agreement with the post.

Is that the same T. Boone Pickens who was singing this tune last June?


"I don't know what Missouri's going to do," he told the Austin American Statesman. "You can't tell about them. I don't have to have 'em."



"I have a strong streak of loyalty and that's the way I feel about Kansas, Iowa State and Kansas State. I don't wanna go off and leave them. I don't care about Missouri."



He can chug a nice cool glass of shut the **** up with an antifreeze chaser.

wilnerhotline Jon Wilner
Hearing from sources that Big 12 pursuit of Louisville heating up, Air Force and Navy have offers from Big East.

I would miss the rivalry game if the Tiger left.

Infu**ingdeed.

I think there's no way the Big East will be considered a BCS conference as soon as SYR and Pitt are gone.

Sounds like the Big12 is talking a lot about being a 9, 10, 12, or 16 team league.

Wouldn't 9 be better than 10? I personally still prefer the 12... but that's one less mouth to feed so each school is getting a little more money from the current TV deals. We can go back to playing 4 non-conference games, then go back to 16 conference games in BBall.

I would like to get enough teams so there could be a conference championship game. That way Mizzou could live with the illusion they're an elite program for an extra week before Oklahoma or Texas spanks them by three touchdowns and then blame Kansas for their shortcomings.

There's been a lot of completely unrealistic scenarios bandied about in this thread, but yours might be the worst offender.

wilnerhotline: B12 bracing for Mizzou to leave, considering a plan to add 4 schools: BYU, Boise, WVU and Ville. Many steps btwn here and there, of course

KU and Louisville in bball coupled with OU and UT in football.

That's premier.

Compared to what? Florida and Kentucky in basketball and an entire conference of football teams?

I never knew that aTm has no chick cheerleaders.

Weird.

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I don't wanna be that guy, but Iowa State will be ranked in BBall this year, and fighting for the top of the Big12 which I've heard people saying this year is going to be the best basketball conference.

I like you but lets be honest...you are that guy every year.

Interesting read from Tramel at the Oklahoman.

Just because the Bedlam plot of the Big 12 soap opera has ended — we're staying right here, in this vampire of a conference — doesn't mean the story is over.

Your turn, Missouri.

Your turn to decide whether this Dark Shadows league that can't be killed is the best place for you.
I don't know if the SEC wants Missouri, and I don't know if Missouri wants to go. But this I know. The SEC should want Mizzou, and Mizzou should want the SEC.

The Big 12 will survive without Missouri. I said something off hand 18 months ago, not sure even if I really believed it, but danged if it hasn't come to pass.
As long as you've got OU and Texas, you've got a league. As long as you've got the Sooners and the Longhorns, which means you've got OSU and Texas Tech, too, you've got a conference. Even if it's a ghastly shell of what it once was.

So Missouri doesn't hold the Big 12's fate in its hands. Sure would be nice if the Tigers stayed, because don't look now, but good football programs suddenly are in short supply.

But the Big 12 will endure. Nothing short of a stake through Bevo's heart will end the Big 12. OU, OSU and Tech aren't going to the Pac, Texas has everything it wants and Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor and K-State are just happy to have a place to hang their hat.

Do the math. That's eight schools. Heck, don't expand at all and you still could have a league. It's been done before.

So Missouri, do whatever you want. Don't worry about putting Iowa State out of business or getting sued by Kenny Starr. Misery loves company, so we'd love for you to stay, but whether Missouri loves company or Missouri loves misery, well, that's up to you.

But the SEC would be nuts not to take a crack at Mizzou. If the ACC has closed the door to raiders — imagine that, a conference with the vision and leadership to proactively safeguard its house — then the SEC's options are limited.

The powerhouse league can't stay at 13 schools. That's just goofy. Got to get to 14, which means if OU isn't interested (and the Sooners most definitely are not), then Missouri and West Virginia are the viable candidates.
Mizzou brings much better markets for television contracts, thanks to Kansas City and St. Louis; much better academic reputation, which could start to appeal to the SEC with the addition of another stellar school in Texas A&M; and, don't forget, good football.

Maybe you could argue West Virginia trumps Missouri on the gridiron. But I would argue otherwise, that if you put Mizzou in the Big East the last several years, the BCS bowls would have rolled into Columbia.

So why should Missouri go? I know, everyone says the same about Mizzou they said about A&M, that the Aggies will be squashed in the SEC.

I don't believe it for either the Tigers or Aggies. They won't contend regularly in the current SEC West landscape, but they won't be doormats.

And it's not like Missouri or A&M has been tearing up the Big 12. Missouri has made two Big 12 title games, 2007 and 2008, winning neither. A&M has made two Big 12 title games, 1997 and 1998, winning the latter. In a huge upset.
That's the success rate at stake in the Aggies' move and the Tigers' decision? Two division titles in 15 years? One major bowl berth (the '98 Aggies in the Sugar) between them in 15 years?

That's what Missouri is gambling with? Mizzou could make a lot more money, find conference stability and leave the Longhorns behind. And the Tigers should forego all that because they might win two North Divisions in 15 years?

Missouri's frustration with Texas is only now bubbling. Nebraska's feelings were well-documented. Then A&M's. Finally, OU's.

Now, Mizzou football coach Gary Pinkel carries the banner. His disgust with the Longhorn Network no longer is hidden.

Why would Missouri leave? Why in the world would Missouri stay?

If the SEC is interested, there's only one thing that should keep the Tigers in the Big 12.

The Big Ten. Missouri sort of started this mess 18 months ago, with its glee at Big Ten expansion. Turns out the Big Ten wasn't interested.

But Mizzou still would love to be in the Big Ten, both for academics and athletics. If Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany gives Missouri any reason for hope that his conference could expand in the future and Mizzou would be a prime candidate, that would prompt Missouri to, just like the Sooners did, swallow its pride and hold its nose and put on a happy face.

Otherwise, Missouri has little reason to turn down the SEC, which has many reasons to offer.

Not that it will make much difference back here in the shadows of darkness.


Read more: http://newsok.com/missouri-should-fo...#ixzz1ZDZTv9q2

Heh, this is pretty cool...

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No wait! I was informed by Mizzou fans just earlier today this was not the case! This reporter is spreading lies! Nuthooks!

I think the idea that Missouri looking around could cause all of this is somewhat silly.

Like the mere casual look from MU is some big swinging dick that can fracture a conference.

Me thinks it isn't so simple.

There is a difference between looking around and actively seeking.

Just saying....

Pretty much what I have been saying the whole time.

Sounds like a naive and narrow view of the situation.

Heh, I bet it does. :)


We have what is reported in the media and what the Mizzou faithful are saying.... Oh what to believe!?

Media reports of what has caused discord in the Big 12 don't have shit to do with Missouri.

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You can think you want...your version is more ridiculous. The simple wandering eye of Missouri caused the Big 12 to fracture sending 3 teams out the door.

Missouri. The home of mother ****ing bad asses who shift college football with the smallest of glances.

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If only Mizzou could be that important. If this was the case, then you know there would be some serious hardware in the Tiger trophy case. I would love to see Mizzou grow as a program to the point that they are considered a powerful member of whatever conference they are in, and I think they are moving in that direction, but to imply that Mizzou looked at the Big 10 and caused conference armageddon is simply laughable.

Adding a photo to the end of a post doesn't make Mizzou football more badass.

Sorry bro-ski.

No no. But the implication that they smiled across the room and sent all these teams for the doors by raiderhader absolutely does.

Apparently a plane went from Columbia MO to Birmingham AL yesterday. NBC Sports says Mizzou to the SEC is still an option:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...inues-to-grow/

I'm hearing some weird shit around Columbia about a couple of BoC members being canned and a couple others that may not be approved in time to get a vote in in their stead.

Nobody seems to have a really good idea what's going on, but the gist is that outright politics (not even football related) could stall the legislative session and keep these new appointments from being made. If so, the BoC either A) lacks the votes or B) can't actually meet to approve a move to the SEC.

I'm sure more details will emerge, but it seems like a move may have hit another snag even as the 'smoke' gets a little thicker.

I did see one twitter about Jay Nixon appointing new curators that would support a conference move, but it did not appear to be a legitimate source, and sounded pretty far fetched, so I did not post it.

There are only five curators needed for a quorum. If two of the seven were canned, that is still five. Only a simple majority of that five would be needed to pass anything.

Welcome to the SEC TAMU!

It is more that we want to make 100% sure the votes are in place before an actual vote is taken, rather than not having the votes right now. The two appointments in limbo are pro-SEC, which is why we have delayed the BoC meeting until Tuesday (and potentially could be delayed beyond that if needed).

Just taking extra precaution to avoid any egg on face, which this Mizzou fan definitely appreciates. Have patience.

I don't understand it well enough to 'report' it, but I figured maybe someone around here knew it better than I did so I could get a little more detail on it.

Eh, to hell with it, back to waiting for a result. I'm really tired of this already.

I think once it is in the hands of the curators, it because less of an athletic issue and more of a political one.

On that note, this guy, who covers Texas A&M, says our university leadership met with SEC Commish Slive yesterday. He also that SEC had set a "deadline" for this Friday, but since we can't get the curators together until next Tuesday, the "deadline" has been pushed to next Wednesday.

http://twitter.com/#!/HopWebsider

:hmmm:

No way Mizzou leaves, right? Right?

Starting to smell like the Forces of Darkness are sabotaging this from within.

Sounds like the exact opposite to me. It sounds like the university has already made their decision, and next Tuesday/Wednesday it will be official.

In your opinion, are they staying or going?

Going.

Your mom, bitch.

I hope you're right - I'm just sort of naturally jaded about shit like this.

It is the nature of us Mizzou fans. When I don't hear anything, I get pessimistic. All the smoke right now is very positive for Mizzou to the SEC.

Ok, so it is Wednesday, an even numbered day, and Mizzou is gone?

I hope you're right. I'd love to see Mizzou in the SEC. Haters be damned.

lol @ KK

Well, what did he say?

KK is scared poop-less that K-State is going to be left in the wind.

MU needs to go to the SEC (assuming they're invited etc).

Mountain West. They'd own that conference.

Pretty good read from Gabe DeArmond.

http://missouri.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1271720

Amazing op-ed from Clay Travis on the financial upside from Mizzou and A&M in the SEC.

I'm not sure how anyone could read this and come away with the opinion that Mizzou should stay put in the Big 12 if any of this comes to fruition.

http://outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ex...wn-network.php

He just ranted about how some guy called up and barely accused KK of saying something about Dearmound.

Then he went off on message boards, twitter, etc.

He ended by saying MU should just try and go at this point because they don't have anything to do with the survival of the league.

Jack Harry was just sitting there being like "calm down dude".

Holy hell... when Jack Harry (of all people) is trying to calm you down...

Lol, no shit. Dayze is right - Keitz sees the coming disaster if Mizzou bolts and the Big XII (possibly) disintegrates.

I hope like hell that Mizzou's BoC have some nuts and leave, if they really do have that option. Staying to be UT's and OU's bitch just isn't all that appealing. I say that realizing who Mizzou would have to face in the SEC, that's how stale the thought of staying in the Big XII has become.

If MU leaves it would be nice to see KU grow a pair and GTFO as well.

Here's what's going to happen:

Alden will get the approval to apply to join the SEC. As he puts the envelope in the mail, he'll get a text from Jim Delaney telling him that he should apply for the B1G (wink, wink). So Alden will immediately fire off an application to the B1G as well. Slive will get wind of it and the schools of the SEC will align against a wishy/washy Mizzou.

Delaney will then send Alden another text that says "Psyche! Goddamn! I can't believe you fell for that twice!"

And somehow we'll end up in the Mountain West while KU ends up in the PAC and ISU ends up in the B1G.

I look forward to our "natural rivalry" with K-State.

Do we have an offer from a conference?

Probably not... When your only concern is sucking the tits of Texas.. I doubt you put yourself in position to be in a BCS conference when this one folds...

It would be nice to see you grow a pair and take that leading role in The Dark Knight Rises.

Damn you.

That's not a tit, big boy.

Unfortantly youre right....

I give MU props for trying at least to get out of this Cesspool of a conference.

LMAO Props!:clap:

Lockedonsports David Locke



A Cincinnati paid site is reporting #BYU, #TCU, #Louisville, #Cincinnati, West Virginia to join Big 12 -- if Missouri stays that makes 14

Morgantown to Provo is going to be a hell of a commute. Nothing like a 4,000 mile round trip for the field hockey team to make a conference seem cozy.

Maybe the real fans will make a road trip of it. It's only 60 hours by car to get there and back if you don't stop.