Heheh, surely not. Joe Rogan doing drugs? :D

Even Dana looked uncomfortable around him. Joe was pimping the fight, but he went WAY over the top and his eyes were just bugging right out of his head. :bong:

Better fights next weekend IMO.

Overeem, Werdum will be good. Josh Barnett will destroy Brett Rogers

myp2p had several feeds, and the one I watched did not go down and was high quality. If any of the feeds were to go down, just go to another one.

I hope for Werdum's sake he's been training his ass off, I think the tourney will end up in an Overeem vs Silva snoozer.

Jones/Rampage set for UFC 135 in September. I don't see Rampage having anything for Jones in this one. I really like Rampage and hate to see him get dominated like he probably is going to in this fight, just hopefully it isn't beatdown like Jones gave Rua and Hamill.

I dont see anyone out there who has anything for Jones, he's going to go on an unbeaten streak that could well best Silva's.

He's the kinda guy they should make an exception to the weight classes for, i'd bet anything he'd whip several heavyweights handily, no one out there even comes close to his athleticism & creativity, not even Silva IMO.

where can I see the Carwin fight?

I agree. I chatted with Page other night and I told him he'd need the Page of pride to step into the ring to have any chance and he agreed. That's why against Hamill you saw the knees and kicks return.

I don't see Page beating Jones, but the fact is, Page hits harder than anyone else at 205. If he connects 1 time it's over.

THe question is does he still even give a shit?

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Well I'm not going to ask him if his heart is still in it, but he doesn't look like the same fighter from his days in pride when fighting was his whole life.

He seemed motivated for this last fight. One would assume he could get up for a Jones fight too, especially with all the (deserved) hype around Jones.

Okay the Strikeforce show was pretty disappointing. Werdrum and Overeem was painful to watch and I'm not sure why Werdum didn't try to strike a little more since he didn't look THAT bad on his feet. I don't think the UFC would ever bring him back after that type of fight where he didn't want to engage. Barnett looked pretty good in his return, but I'm not sold Rogers has any business fighting a top fighter. I'm thinking Bigfoot-Barnett in the finals.

Valentijn Overeem went out like a punk.

He shouldn't have gotten paid jack for that.

Yeah that SF card was three hours of my life I won't get back. As far as Jones vs. Jackson; this is probably Jackson's last shot at the title barring some fluke finish(draw, nc etc.) so he best make the most of it. No excuses.

How did Cormier look?

Cormier looked good but Masvidal impressed me the most. He turned Noons into the Elephant Man. Those two were the only bright spots on the card, IMO.

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K-1 MAX is being streamed live right now this is ****ing awesome!!!! It's on UStream and YouTube both. Dunno the UStream link but I'm about to find it because this commentator on the YouTube one is AWFULLLLLLLLL. Oh BTW Strikeforce was ****ing awful tonight, worst card of the year and come December that'll still be the case. Just God awful.

YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clFd_...f91e394fb8d1f1

Looks like Toney wants to get beat up again, but i'd guess he fares atleast a lil better than the last time... http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/06/2...?sct=mma_t2_a5

On another note, i remember seeing a few posts about the Jones/Shogun match that basically said 'ah, Shogun just looked out of shape & slow', but after watching that fight i couldnt disagree more, what it looked like to me was a guy who simply wasnt sure how to attack this unorthodox striking machine that literally dwarfed him.

Jones not only towered over him, he looked twice as thick as well. Gonna be a long time before Bones loses.

Honestly, for some reason I'm not even that upset about this.

Ariel said Nate's camp is going to reveal the whole story tomorrow on the pre-show. Personally, I'm DYING to know. All things considered it seems like it has to be roids/drugs but at the same time the quickness of him getting fired makes me think it's not because others have got suspensions, etc. So yeah, I'm dying to hear this.

The show came and went and still no info, anyone heard why? Dana was freakin pissed on the pre-show.

That Rocky/Apollo...errr Kongo/Barry fight was awesome and reason why refs shouldn't be so quick to stop fights.

It was awwesome, still no one could have said it was an early stoppage if the ref would have pulled Barry off Kongo

First of all that comeback/KO last night was ****ing SICK.

But about Nate...I'm dying to know. Seriously. A life-ban from UFC? I can only think of like 3 things it can be.

1) Supplied fake piss (Silva)
2) Testosterone Replacement Treatment (Sonnen)
3) Something to do with weight? I read his cut went fine. But I think it's possible doctors may have told him he couldn't do the cut without risk of serious issues or even dying. From the videos I saw I'm making an educated guess he came in 10+lbs over weight and possibly was just laughing about it like he didn't care at all?

Whatever he did, he ruined his career this weekend and that makes him an absolute dumbass. I mean seriously..a life ban from UFC is a big deal.

But oh well, he'll be a great addition to....oh wait.

What happened to Shogun? The CP member.

I didn't bother to copy it but Marquardt's twitter says he'll hold a presser tomorrow to say why he was not allowed to fight.

Nice free card.

Hormone replacement therapy without getting a clearance from the comission was the issue.

Life ban for that? That could very likely have been a necessary medical treatment.

Would love for Tito Ortiz to catch a 9mm round between the eyes.

Didn't see that coming.

any good streams

Siver winning that fight was bullshit

Leben vs Silva.... Wow!

Was there any point in the Cruz/Faber fight where Faber looked truly hurt or rocked? I saw one uppercut and one flying knee that hit Faber flush but he never at any point appeared like he was wobbly or could have gone down. Faber, on the other hand, knocked Cruz down at least 2 times with one punch. So did Cruz win the fight on the takedowns he couldn't sustain for more than a second before Faber scrambled out and up from? At best, I would have called that fight a draw and immediately scheduled the rematch.

whomever called that 50-45 round is on crack.

I completely agree.

But, they say you gotta finish the champ to be the champ. Had to know he wasn't going to get that decision.

True

Nah, Cruz's shots were all weak. You could see on the faces at the end of the fight who did the most damage, but Cruz did land the most and scored some take downs. I thought Cruz took the 2nd, 3rd, and 5th. I'm sure there will be a rubber match soon between the two though.

Agreed. If Faber had come out like one of his coaches said and pressured Cruz from the beginning bell and kept him off-guard, round 5 and the fight would have been his. He went back to a counter punching posture and waited too long to attack. The takedowns hurt too. Not sure if we'll get it, but that fight begs for a rubber match!

What'd I miss?

Really good night of fights, all in all. KO's, submissions, a big upset (in my mind)... The main event went to decision, and nobody likes that, but it was a really good fight.

Find a way to see the Leben / Silva fight. It's short, and brutal.

27 seconds

You can probably watch what you missed here http://www.mma-core.com

Leben vs. Silva http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Chri...020649&tid=100

Wow was that the shorest fight ever in MMA? Silva was wrestling the ref ROFL

That happens a lot. One second he was fighting a guy, the next some dude was on top of him... so he's still fighting. No idea what happened. It's lost time. Flash KO.

The scary KO's are when they're stiff legged and twitching.

I'll never like Leben. Ever. As much as I can't stand Anderson Silva I hope Leben gets another shot at him and Silva destroys him again.

awesome card i thought. main event was a great fight.

I love the dude and his style. He never has a boring fight win or lose.

He is an exciting fighter to watch but he's a real ****in headcase, I hate hearing how he's cleaned his life up blah blah blah just for him to go out and get a DUI

To go out and do what he does in the Octagon you pretty much have to be jacked up in the head. He just pretty much stands right in front of the other dude throws bombs and takes bombs.

I still have a bad impression of him from his days on the TUF show. I'm sure he's grown up since then but he was a total ****stick then.

Yeah, it took me awhile to get over that impression as well. Koschek is the same way, he was a complete douche then and played the part for the GSP fight.

Another reason I like Leben. Anybody, anywhere, anytime....





As UFC President Dana White scrambled to find a replacement to step in and fight Rashad Evans in the UFC 133 main event, he heard from two volunteers: Chael Sonnen and Chris Leben.

White said on Thursday that after Phil Davis dropped out of the fight with Evans, he got texts from both Sonnen and Leben asking if they could step in. But White never seriously considered putting either one of them in the cage with Evans, since Evans is a light heavyweight and Sonnen and Leben are middleweights.

"Both said they wanted the fight. I told them both they weigh 185 pounds but thanks for texting," White said.

White said that the fighter who ended up taking the Evans fight, Tito Ortiz, was the UFC's first choice to fill in for the UFC 133 main event, but that it took some time to get Ortiz to accept. The other fighter White contacted, Lyoto Machida, initially expressed interest but later said he wanted more money to take a fight on short notice.

Leben and Sonnen were the only two fighters who approached White about fighting Evans.

"Those were the only two," White said. "Two 185-pounders did it."

White said he wasn't sure what he would have done if Ortiz had turned down the fight, but one thing he never considered was dipping into the Strikeforce roster to find a light heavyweight replacement. And White hinted that he doesn't think the Strikeforce light heavyweight division is good enough to produce a legitimate opponent for Evans.

"That never crossed my mind," White said. "At 205 in Strikeforce, who would I grab who could come in and fight Rashad Evans?"

[QUOTE=BigCatDaddy;7749844]Another reason I like Leben. Anybody, anywhere, anytime....





As UFC President Dana White scrambled to find a replacement to step in and fight Rashad Evans in the UFC 133 main event, he heard from two volunteers: Chael Sonnen and Chris Leben.

White said on Thursday that after Phil Davis dropped out of the fight with Evans, he got texts from both Sonnen and Leben asking if they could step in. But White never seriously considered putting either one of them in the cage with Evans, since Evans is a light heavyweight and Sonnen and Leben are middleweights.

"Both said they wanted the fight. I told them both they weigh 185 pounds but thanks for texting," White said.

White said that the fighter who ended up taking the Evans fight, Tito Ortiz, was the UFC's first choice to fill in for the UFC 133 main event, but that it took some time to get Ortiz to accept. The other fighter White contacted, Lyoto Machida, initially expressed interest but later said he wanted more money to take a fight on short notice.

Leben and Sonnen were the only two fighters who approached White about fighting Evans.

"Those were the only two," White said. "Two 185-pounders did it."

White said he wasn't sure what he would have done if Ortiz had turned down the fight, but one thing he never considered was dipping into the Strikeforce roster to find a light heavyweight replacement. And White hinted that he doesn't think the Strikeforce light heavyweight division is good enough to produce a legitimate opponent for Evans.

"That never crossed my mind," White said. "At 205 in Strikeforce, who would I grab who could come in and fight Rashad Evans?"[/QUOTE]

He just can't help himself, they own the thing for ****s sake and he still has to run it down. But he is correct, Hendo is the only true threat at 205 in Strikeforce and then a huge drop off to Mike Kyle or some other second tier guy.

Dana White dumped Overeem from the heavyweight tournament because he refused to fight in September. I don't know why Overeem wouldn't fight but man that guys act gets old, Dana is a dick but Overeem needs to fight unless he has a serious injury.

Yeah, that HW tournament is falling apart at the seems.

If you go six months at a time between tournament shows people lose interest. I guess Overeem has a toe injury which could definitely harm his ability to train but I can't say how serious.

I thought I read something about him going on vacation as well and not having enough time to train after that. I would still like to see a few of those HW's competing in the UFC still. Silva, Fedor, and Barnett could all still put on solid fights on PPV's.

Yeah, now Cormier is taking Overeems place, he will fight Silva in September

FYI Fedor and Hendo square off tonight in Strikeforce on Showtime..just starting

Thank you!

And just as I tune in, it's a Mizzou guy fighting Paul Daley.

Someone please let us know how the Henderson fight goes, should be a good one.

Linky?

Woodley won that fight. C'mon judges.

MIZ!

YES!!! MIZ!

Jay Glazer is on Woodley's team?

Yeah that was a WTF moment.

Yeah he owns a MMA gym with Coture