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CatfishBob2 04-14-2025 10:24 AM

So you haven't seen him play. That's understandable. There's a lot of guys I haven't seen. DJ Giddens is a guy I'm sour on. Good runner but the word is he's not great in pass pro and I'm seen some horrendous drops on tape. But he's a Kansas guy so I'm sure you've seen more games than I have (I think I watched one game of theirs last year).

I'm a VT fan and watched every game of Tutens at North Carolina A&T. To me he's what we hoped CEH would be. He's probably not a three down back but still a one cut guy with elite explosion. I wouldn't be surprised if he burst out like Chase Brown did for the Bengals last season

Otter 04-14-2025 12:17 PM

If TreVeyon Henderson drops past the 1st round I'm willing to bet naked pics of billee that Veach pulls some trade magic with the 1st round pick and goes after him in the 2nd.

Couch-Potato 04-14-2025 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 18029266)
If TreVeyon Henderson drops past the 1st round I'm willing to bet naked pics of billee that Veach pulls some trade magic with the 1st round pick and goes after him in the 2nd.

This is the hail marry play I’m hoping for also

staylor26 04-14-2025 06:34 PM

Oh yea baby

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Miami RB Damien Martinez is visiting the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> today and tomorrow. He has also visited the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a>.<br><br>A big, physical back at 6-0, 217 pounds, Martinez - who just turned 21 - averaged 6.2 YPC last season with 10 TDs and clocked a solid 4.51 40-time. <a href="https://t.co/QaLuNeQ1VZ">pic.twitter.com/QaLuNeQ1VZ</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1911853608863506624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 04-14-2025 06:41 PM

Might as well post some FAP material:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Miami RB Damien Martinez is pretty fun <a href="https://t.co/QYclM1Anuh">pic.twitter.com/QYclM1Anuh</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1856048378079260789?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That lateral agility at his size is pretty insane.

kccrow 04-14-2025 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18029138)
Fumble issues (9 the last 2 years), drop issues (9.4% drop rate), isn’t that great as a receiving back. Not that fluid there to me which is vital in this offense, elite straight line speed but not that great of lateral agility or elusiveness and his start/stop explosion is pretty average. His pro comp on NFL.com is Pacheco and that actually seems like a good comp.

Won’t knock him much for pass protection bc most of these backs need to work on that.

I think guys like Brashard Smith, Jaydon Blue, Trevor Etienne, RJ Harvey, DJ Giddens and Dylan Sampson can play his role better but that’s just my view.

Jaydon Blue has worse fumble issues, especially on a per-carry basis. I'd cross him off the list, personally.

RJ Harvey is absolutely atrocious in blitz pickup/pass block, so that might limit his 3rd down appeal for Reid. I like him a lot, overall.

I like Etienne and Sampson the most in this group. I just hope Sampson doesn't end up with constant nagging hammies, and I hope Etienne isn't as volume-limited as he was in college if one of them ends up in KC.

Brashard Smith still looks more WR than RB to me but maybe he'll continue to develop.

CatfishBob2 04-14-2025 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18029652)
Might as well post some FAP material:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Miami RB Damien Martinez is pretty fun <a href="https://t.co/QYclM1Anuh">pic.twitter.com/QYclM1Anuh</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1856048378079260789?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That lateral agility at his size is pretty insane.

Good stuff. I know 7's teammates had fun with him after that one

RunKC 04-14-2025 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18029652)
Might as well post some FAP material:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Miami RB Damien Martinez is pretty fun <a href="https://t.co/QYclM1Anuh">pic.twitter.com/QYclM1Anuh</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1856048378079260789?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That lateral agility at his size is pretty insane.

Outside of Henderson and Judkins, I think Martinez has everything they want which is why he’s going to be really high on their board. He’s extremely well rounded as a 3 down back.

Size, strength, 2nd to Jeanty is yards after contract, contact balance, pass protection potential (was reportedly excellent there at the Sr Bowl), elusive and is a good receiver.

I don’t follow Miami football so I was surprised that they lined him up at WR often. He’s got really insane lateral agility for a guy that big as you noted.

There’s a shit load of RB’s in this class and very few of them can do everything day 1. This kid is one of the few who can.

RunKC 04-16-2025 08:55 AM

Final thoughts and rankings on RB’s. These are ranked in order. Ideally we get 2. A 3 down well rounded back to start and a really good elusive back with speed that can be a change of pace and do screens/line up at WR some and do kickoff returns now that they are being forced to return them.

*Ashton Jeanty excluded for obvious reasons

The best
TreVeyon Henderson

2nd rd
Omarion Hampton
Quinshon Judkins

Rd 3
Brashard Smith
DJ Giddens

Damien Martinez
Trevor Etienne

Rd 4
RJ Harvey
Devin Neal
Dylan Sampson
Jaydon Blue

Rd 5
Cam Skattebo
Bayshul Tuten
LeQuint Allen
Jarquez Hunter


Late rd 6 and 7
Ollie Gordon
Marcus Yarns
Jacory Croskey-Merritt
Micah Bernard

Highlighted are my favorite fits for us. Those are my top 3 and I love what they bring to this team.

Brashard Smith is my 2nd favorite option after TreVeyon Henderson. His start/stop explosion is special and reminds me of Tyreek Hill’s, he’s got good long speed, good vision and is an excellent receiving threat since he was a former WR. He’s everything we hoped Clyde would be.

Favorite late rd option is Ollie Gordon. Massive steal if he’s taken after the 5th. Was a top 100 pick last year if not for his program getting worse and literally asking him to carry the entire ****ing program on his back this year. 3 down back who lead CFB in rushing and was 2nd in rushing TD’s in 2023.

Anyway. Tear it down fellas!

Dunerdr 04-16-2025 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18030969)
Final thoughts and rankings on RB’s. These are ranked in order. Ideally we get 2. A 3 down well rounded back to start and a really good elusive back with speed that can be a change of pace and do screens/line up at WR some and do kickoff returns now that they are being forced to return them.

*Ashton Jeanty excluded for obvious reasons

The best
TreVeyon Henderson

2nd rd
Omarion Hampton
Quinshon Judkins

Rd 3
Brashard Smith
DJ Giddens

Damien Martinez
Trevor Etienne

Rd 4
RJ Harvey
Devin Neal
Dylan Sampson
Jaydon Blue

Rd 5
Cam Skattebo
Bayshul Tuten
LeQuint Allen
Jarquez Hunter


Late rd 6 and 7
Ollie Gordon
Marcus Yarns
Jacory Croskey-Merritt
Micah Bernard

Highlighted are my favorite fits for us. Those are my top 3 and I love what they bring to this team.

Brashard Smith is my 2nd favorite option after TreVeyon Henderson. His start/stop explosion is special and reminds me of Tyreek Hill’s, he’s got good long speed, good vision and is an excellent receiving threat since he was a former WR. He’s everything we hoped Clyde would be.

Favorite late rd option is Ollie Gordon. Massive steal if he’s taken after the 5th. Was a top 100 pick last year if not for his program getting worse and literally asking him to carry the entire ****ing program on his back this year. 3 down back who lead CFB in rushing and was 2nd in rushing TD’s in 2023.

Anyway. Tear it down fellas!

Man I really like the players in the 2/3 groups. The draftubator in me doesn't want to take running back that high but the fan in me sure as hell does.

kccrow 04-16-2025 09:33 AM

Good stuff Run.

This is how I kind of have them packaged...

Every Down Backs
Ashton Jeanty - Rd 1
Omarion Hampton - Rd 2
Quinshon Judkins - Rd 2
Kaleb Johnson - Rd 2-3
Jordan James - Rd 3
Damien Martinez - Rd 3
Cam Skattebo - Rd 3-4
Devin Neal - Rd 4-5
Woody Marks - Rd 5
Ollie Gordon - Rd 5
Raheim Sanders - Rd 6

Explosive/3rd Down Backs
TreVeyon Henderson - Rd 1-2
Dylan Sampson - Rd 2-3
Trevor Etienne - Rd 3-4
Bhayshul Tuten - Rd 4
Breshard Smith - Rd 4-5
Jaydon Blue - Rd 5-6
Donovan Edwards - Rd 6-7
Markus Yarns - Rd 6-7

Committee Contributors
RJ Harvey - Rd 3-4
Jarquez Hunter - Rd 4
DJ Giddens - Rd 4
LeQuint Allen - Rd 5-6
Kyle Monangai - Rd 5-6
Jacory Croskey-Merritt - Rd 5-6
Tahj Brooks - Rd 6
Kalel Mullings - Rd 6-7
Montrell Johnson Jr - Rd 6-7
Phil Mafah - Rd 7
Corey Kiner - Rd 7

I prefer a guy from that Explosive/3rd Down Back tier

Dunerdr 04-16-2025 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18031011)
Good stuff Run.



I prefer a guy from that Explosive/3rd Down Back tier

That's surely the sexiest group. But anyone in the top half of that every down group would be okay with me. I'd be alright with the rest at the right spot. But this offense really needs an explosive runner in my opinion.

Bowser 04-17-2025 07:54 AM

Just picture one of Treyveon Henderson, Trevor Etienne, Bhayshul Tuten, or RJ Harvey lined up next to Mahomes in shotgun with Worthy and Rice out wide, Kelce on the line, and Hollywood in the slot.

https://media.tenor.com/W6rM3OJDZUgA...ndysamberg.gif

Dante84 04-17-2025 02:39 PM

Veach came out and said we will be taking a RB in the draft lol.... so everyone pick your fave.

Rounds 3-5 most likely.

Dunerdr 04-17-2025 03:32 PM

Man I’ve spent all day thinking today was the draft. ****! Been sneaking in mocks between work emails.

Where’s every one at on Kaleb Johnson?


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