I would have took the trade before the draft but not sold on the idea of a trade now - unless it was for a haul better than what we got for Tyreek.

I know none of us want to do this, but............

Say the Bears, who have the most cap space in the NFL, call us up.

They offer us a deal.

Bears get:

• DT Chris Jones

Chiefs get:

• the lower 2024 1st round pick (Bears control their own pick and Carolina's)
• DT Gervon Dexter
• 2024 3rd round pick
• 2025 5th round pick

That's about in line with what the Dolphins gave up for Tyreek. The 1st round pick will be higher, Dexter is an actual player rather than a hypothetical 2nd round pick that the Dolphins gave us, and a 3rd + a future 5th = the Dolphins' two fourths. Dolphins gave us an additional 6th that I'm not including here.

Who takes the deal?

I know none of us want to do this, but............

Say the Bears, who have the most cap space in the NFL, call us up.

They offer us a deal.

Bears get:

• DT Chris Jones

Chiefs get:

• the lower 2024 1st round pick (Bears control their own pick and Carolina's)
• DT Gervon Dexter
• 2024 3rd round pick
• 2025 5th round pick

That's about in line with what the Dolphins gave up for Tyreek. The 1st round pick will be higher, Dexter is an actual player rather than a hypothetical 2nd round pick that the Dolphins gave us, and a 3rd + a future 5th = the Dolphins' two fourths. Dolphins gave us an additional 6th that I'm not including here.

Who takes the deal?

I'm not doing the trade now. You have no clue what your'e really trading for draft pick wise.

If you wanted to trade it was before the draft. Now you ride it out and tag and trade.

Yep, losing Jones will impact the Chiefs more than anyone other than Mahomes/Kelce/Reid leaving. I'm sure Veach knows this. We can afford to pay one other player at the top rate other than Mahomes and still not enter cap hell.

Somebody more in the know than me might need to clarify, but I'm pretty sure the most recent CBA established that the fines cannot be waived or paid off by the team as part of the deal. So he's racking up $50k a day. He'll be back pretty soon, one way or another.

The Chiefs paid Chris Jones a life changing contract already. These players know what we know: only a select few that aren't elite QB's get a huge 3rd contract.

How many players that aren't elite QB's get a blockbuster 3rd contract with that much? Trent Williams, Von Miller, Aaron Donald...and?

It's not common

Thing is, Chris Jones can make an argument that he's in that group, no?

That's the type of trade it would have to be right now. I don't know that you could convince KC to make this type of move, since Dexter is completely unproven at the NFL level.

Carolina is a team I could also see making sense here, if they would be willing to move Derrick Brown AND KC felt like he was a good enough centerpiece to get back.

Brown isn't Jones, obviously, but he's established at least a solid level of play.

It's just so complicated for the teams making the deal, I don't see how it gets done. They have to have the cap space, and the ability to send something valuable at DT back to KC, and have picks likely to be worthy of it.

I'd think they end up around 28 mil? That get it done?

I had pretty much this exact scenario typed up a time or two, but decided not to hit submit. If we are indeed "far apart", and there is no possible solution in sight, I might even make the call and not wait for the Bears to call. Dexter was on the list in the Draft Form Thread on Prospect the Chiefs met with before the draft, but went 2 picks in front of Rice.

I'd take that deal, and then I'd pay whatever it took to move up for Harrison II. PM2 to MH2 could be an all time duo just in time for Kelce to downshift.

Trading him right now, takes the Chiefs out of Super Bowl contention with what it would do to the DT spot.

He'll play here this year. It's next year that you make a move.

I agree he will play here this year, but bullshit it takes them out of contention. If Jones gets injured again, you're saying the Chiefs can't win the super bowl?

And getting Dexter in the deal that makes me okay with doing it now. You clear 21M in cap space and already have an influx of talent to lighten the load.

Whenever Jones leaves, you can't try to replace him. You have to replace his production.

Yes, I think taking a DPOY candidate off the defense, in the current AFC landscape, makes them non superbowl contenders. Pat and the offense may go nuclear and win a playoff game or two I supposed, but they can't win the SB with the defense minus Jones.

Had they done it pre draft and FA, sure, they could have filled some spots.

Not now.