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keg in kc 01-24-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14070590)
Can a change of scenery not bring back the coach that stopped brady twice? I wouldn’t rule it out. His situations the past 3 stops we’re terrible

Sure.

But let's call this what it is: Reid bringing someone he knows in. Someone whose most recent performances led to bottom ranked defenses. To fix a defense already ranked at the bottom. This is not a great situation on that side of the ball.

This looks like every single defensive hire the Chiefs have made for the last 15 years. Head coaches hiring buddies with sketchy records. Over and over. . We all know what that's gotten us. But this time! This time will work!

Maybe eventually they'll try something else. Like, you know, how they drafted a QB finally.

Course, half the board hated that at the time because it was risky. Nobody seems to remember that now. Same reason people like this hire. Somehow it's safe. At least that's how the rationalization goes.

News flash: it's not safe.

Doesn't mean it can't work But it would be bucking the odds

JakeF 01-24-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14070607)
Nelson is towards the top of the list unfortunately. Draft is where we’ll find em

:deevee::deevee::deevee:

TambaBerry 01-24-2019 07:17 PM

I'd rather we give up a long touchdown then watch a team complete 5 yard passes all the way down the field at least it would give our offense more chances

ChiefoftheKeyboard 01-24-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14070620)
You think that a Head Coach that barely can bring himself to acknowledge the defense during games actually planned a full year ahead to select players to fit the next scheme?

If he hurt the performance of his current team by selecting players that fit next season's scheme he should be kicked in his nards.

Did you watch the games? If so you saw him talking to mahomes on the bench while the defense was on the field. Also had a first year coordinator he was coaching up. Just to clue you in, Reid has always let the DC do his own thing so he can worry about the offense. I’d say it worked out pretty ****ing well besides ford lining up offsides.

dj56dt58 01-24-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 14070233)
I don't think Bob Sutton has watched game film since 1973 so this is already a huge improvement

He can't find that damn clicker thing

cwhocares 01-24-2019 07:18 PM

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Well here's to another 4 years of a crap defense. His record as a DC is terrible. The last 6 years he had only one very good year. As a head coach, he was worse.

jonzie04 01-24-2019 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14070313)
4-3 defensive ends are easier to find than 3-4 OLBs.

Definitely not true.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-24-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14070618)
Lets remember Amari Cooper got a 1st and looked like shit in OAK. Ford led the league in pressures and plays a premium position.

Also gotta think contract

JakeF 01-24-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14070623)
Sure.

But let's call this what it is: Reid bringing someone he knows in. Someone whose most recent performances led to bottom ranked defenses. To fix a defense already ranked at the bottom. This is not a great situation on that side of the ball.

This looks like every single defensive hire the Chiefs have made for the last 15 years. Head coaches hiring buddies with sketchy records. Over and over. . We all know what that's gotten us. But this time! This time will work!

Maybe eventually they'll try something else. Like, you know, how they drafted a QB finally.

Course, half the board hated that at the time because it was risky. Nobody seems to remember that now. Same reason people like this hire. Somehow it's safe. At least that's how the rationalization goes.

News flash: it's not safe.

Doesn't mean it can't work But it would be bucking the odds

When other teams would have been going for a cutting edge elite coach, we are going to a guy that gives Andy someone to go out a have dinner with after practice.

alright, shake it off. Lose the negative attitude.


We are going to be ok
We are going to be ok
We are going to be ok

chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14070536)
Please do not compare a QB to a player who doesn’t fit a teams scheme anymore

The Chiefs would love to cut him but they don't have to. If a team wants him, and a pro bowler entering his peak will no doubt be hot trade bait, they're not going to let a measly pick stand in their way. Worst case, the Chiefs can cut him and take a high comp pick. We'll get something for Ford. It's hard to believe they'll just outright cut him.

gblowfish 01-24-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14070156)
He's not Sutton. Let's roll.


This time eleventy billion.

Can he stop 3rd and 10 with three straight trys at it? Then give him the f'ing job!

Direckshun 01-24-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14070078)
So we should have kept doing what we were doing? Wtf?

Is that the ONLY alternative you can think of.

The ONLY one?

ChiefoftheKeyboard 01-24-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14070623)
Sure.

But let's call this what it is: Reid bringing someone he knows in. Someone whose most recent performances led to bottom ranked defenses. To fix a defense already ranked at the bottom. This is not a great situation on that side of the ball.

This looks like every single defensive hire the Chiefs have made for the last 15 years. Head coaches hiring buddies with sketchy records. Over and over. . We all know what that's gotten us. But this time! This time will work!

Maybe eventually they'll try something else. Like, you know, how they drafted a QB finally.

Course, half the board hated that at the time because it was risky. Nobody seems to remember that now. Same reason people like this hire. Somehow it's safe. At least that's how the rationalization goes.

News flash: it's not safe.

Doesn't mean it can't work But it would be bucking the odds

Like I said in an earlier post, venables would’ve been the home run hire. But you’re just looking on the surface. Spag was a shit HC and had terrible defenses on that team, then had the saints when Sean Payton was suspended for the season bc of a targeting scandal. He wasn’t brought in to be a HC and will have way less responsibilities than he did in St. Louis. Those seasons stats you might as well throw out bc not many ppl would’ve succeeded in those situations.

Before that he won two super bowls against brady. Only person to beat them twice. This hire isn’t as good as some ppl think but it’s not nearly as bad as you think.

Direckshun 01-24-2019 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by InTheNeutralZone55 (Post 14070081)
What the hell are you talking about?

Mahomes is signed through 2020 and has an option for 2021.

Yeap.

But he’s getting his payday a year from now.

You sign him to $200m as soon as you possibly can.

Direckshun 01-24-2019 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 14070082)
How is Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal?

Functionally, he is, is what I meant.

We’re paying his ass next year.


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