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RunKC 02-15-2018 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13417965)
But a RFA, so very unlikely to be truly available.

Damn you’re right. I thought he was drafted by them.

RunKC 02-15-2018 09:36 AM

Few other thoughts:

1. I would sign KPL back if Veach truly wants youth. His arrest will likely drop his price tag and you won’t find a LB as athletic and young as him. I’d feel good with a battle between KPL and Eligwe at camp.
2. We desperately need some beef up front on the DL. I expect Veach to sign at least 1 320+ lb lineman.
3. I wouldn’t be surprised if Veach trades one of our 3rd or possibly our 4th rd pick for a known player on a rookie contract.

Chiefs Moon 02-15-2018 10:01 AM

Some good thoughts here. I agree that signing Wilson should be a priority: https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...as-city-chiefs

DaneMcCloud 02-15-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Moon (Post 13418019)
Some good thoughts here. I agree that signing Wilson should be a priority: https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...as-city-chiefs

**** Albert Wilson.

He played well last year because he was in a contract year.

If Veach signs a 29 year old safety that turns 30 next January, he's going against the very principles that he's set forth in this rebuild.

Not gonna happen.

aturnis 02-15-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13417696)
When healthy, Ford is very far from “trash”.

He’s not a super star but he’s a solid decoy that makes the defense better.

He's a 100% liability against the run. I'd much rather have an average player against both the run and pass than a one dimensional dime store superstar pass rusher.

raybec 4 02-15-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13417629)
Randall Cobb
Eli Apple
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
Mike Glennon
CJ Anderson

All these guys will be FA’s

Eli Apple has been a cancer on a crappy Giants team. DRC is on the downhill. I'd take Fuller or EJ Gaines over either of them.

Hoover 02-15-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13418120)
**** Albert Wilson.

He played well last year because he was in a contract year.

If Veach signs a 29 year old safety that turns 30 next January, he's going against the very principles that he's set forth in this rebuild.

Not gonna happen.

well and 26% of his yards and a quarter of his catches came in one game.

It has more to do with who the QB was than the WR.

Wilson is not a necessary signing. I'd spend that money elsewhere.

DaneMcCloud 02-15-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13418136)
He's a 100% liability against the run. I'd much rather have an average player against both the run and pass than a one dimensional dime store superstar pass rusher.

Houston had 5.5 sacks in the 5 games in which Ford was opposite him (Ford had 2 during that time span).

Over the course of the next 12 games, Houston had 4 sacks without Ford at ROLBer.

Ford is not a superstar but he's an effective player when healthy.

Unless the Chiefs find a late round gem in the draft that every other team missed on, Ford will be a Chief in 2018.

This isn't the year to throw $18-20 million at a pass rusher.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-15-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13418152)
well and 26% of his yards and a quarter of his catches came in one game.

It has more to do with who the QB was than the WR.

Wilson is not a necessary signing. I'd spend that money elsewhere.

We’ve got youth there anyways that deserve their shot... I wouldn’t re-sign him unless it came for less than $3M per year, which it won’t.

Bewbies 02-15-2018 12:05 PM

I'd be shocked if Wilson wants out of here. He looked like a stud with Mahomes throwing him the ball.

I wouldn't overpay to keep him, but I'll be kind of surprised if he leaves.

DaneMcCloud 02-15-2018 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13418238)
We’ve got youth there anyways that deserve their shot... I wouldn’t re-sign him unless it came for less than $3M per year, which it won’t.

I don't think Wilson is more than $3 million a year.

Good grief, he has 1,577 yards and 7 TD's in 5 years!

Also, what's the point of moving up for Conley and Chesson, drafting Robinson and signing Kemp to the 53 if they're going to shell out that kind of money for Alligator Arms Wilson?

DaneMcCloud 02-15-2018 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13418251)
I'd be shocked if Wilson wants out of here. He looked like a stud with Mahomes throwing him the ball.

I wouldn't overpay to keep him, but I'll be kind of surprised if he leaves.

Contract year

Easy 6 02-15-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13418254)
Contract year

Exactly the reason I'm expecting to be pleasantly surprised with Dee Ford this year, most guys seem to have their best seasons in a contract year...nothing motivates quite like money

O.city 02-15-2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13418253)
I don't think Wilson is more than $3 million a year.

Good grief, he has 1,577 yards and 7 TD's in 5 years!

Also, what's the point of moving up for Conley and Chesson, drafting Robinson and signing Kemp to the 53 if they're going to shell out that kind of money for Alligator Arms Wilson?

True, but the the guy who did that isn't the Gm anymore. Maybe Veach doesn't care for those players?

I'd prefer not to sign Wilson but wouldn't be surprised if they do.

Shoes 02-15-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13418238)
We’ve got youth there anyways that deserve their shot... I wouldn’t re-sign him unless it came for less than $3M per year, which it won’t.

Which of the receivers do you think would excel as the slot receiver though? Out of our young guys (Robinson, Conley, Chesson) I'm not sure I see any of them as true slot receivers. I'm iffy on Wilson, the one game with Mahomes he excelled but I'm not sure if that is because of the chemistry between Wilson and Mahomes or if it was a byproduct of not having other threats on the field.

I just don't think the Chiefs have any other slot receiver types currently on the roster. If you wanted to go draft a slot receiver, two names I would mention would be Anthony Miller out of Memphis (might be taken higher than I would grab him) or Keke Coutee who played with Mahomes at Texas A&M.


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