Well....i'd argue that they weren't that well reasoned to begin with...but not trying to beat a dead horse here.

After 4 games, i think they're kinda...well, who they've demonstrated they've always been. Though i had hoped Moore could at least get open in small windows. Even as a career "Moore hater", i didn't think he'd get bullied by physical DB's as much as he has. But even in my optimism for Moore i was always 50/50 on that ever panning out.

And in saying that, i still think it's way too early to just jump ship and start asking to trade for Mecole Hardman etc.

This is the group that we decided on for better or worse. Well, now you gotta at least give them enough rope to hang themselves with and see this all the way through.

In reality, it's not all that different from last season. We had this problem last year too. Hence all the 3TE sets etc.

I guess the bigger surprise to me is that Rice hasn't earned a larger role yet.

First round talent...

Never got too far in front of my ski's on Moore, but I definitely expected more than this after his productive SB showing... it looked like he was getting it at just the right time

But we disagree on Hardman, I'd take that guy back with loving arms right about now... Mahomes is somewhat kneecapped without that kind of speed at his disposal

For all of his faults, Hardman was twice the player Moore is... at least to this point

I'm tryna play nice, man...

well they never really tried to throw his way

that's what I was wondering, a lot of CB's play one side. Some line up against their best WR no matter what. I didn't know with the Jets and Sauce.

Hey, i loved me some Hardman. I was a Hardman defender from day 1, despite after 2 seasons realizing that he's never gonna be "Him". But that didn't mean Hardman didn't have value.

But the Chiefs have moved on. It's time to just let these current guys sink or swim.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Skyy Moore has now played in 20 regular games for the Chiefs. He doesn&#39;t have a catch in 8 of them.</p>&mdash; Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/1708976608722174078?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

T minus how many games until Ross leapfrogs his snaps 2022 Pacheco style?

A lot of people brought up the CEH comparisons. While that's a concern, if his role is reduced to a less effective Micole gadget player that's vastly preferable to the 0 catch 0 yard statlines we're seeing in uh, nearly half of his games so far.

0 catches, zero yards on 59% of the snaps....that can't continue.

Not at all. He's only been on the field more because Toney is hurt and playing very little and Richie James is hurt and not playing. I'd much rather Rice be out there playing, but his recent up tick in usage is due to our #1 WR being injured all the time and our #4 guy being injured the last couple of weeks. Rice is behind Toney, Moore, MVS, James, and Watson. Moore, MVS, and Watson are all healthy and got more snaps than Rice on Sunday.

Watson - 43 snaps/61%
Moore - 41 snaps/59%
MVS - 38 snaps/54%
Rice - 32 snaps/46%
Toney - 17 snaps/24% (Hurt)

Once Toney maybe, hopefully gets healthy (doubtful) and James gets back to being healthy, then Rice will likely see more like 15%-25% of snaps. I hope it's not the case, because I think it's pretty clear that right now he's our best WR. He'll have some frustrating drops, but he will probably make up for it.

Hell Rice is our best WR when it comes to getting a 1st down.

Rice - 8
Watson - 5
Moore - 5
Toney - 4
MVS - 4
James - 0
Ross - 0

I think Rice is going to be a baller.

I agree. Get him out there and get him the ball.

I hate the whole "sit and learn" shit. You learn by doing.

You should probably tell Andy. Unbelievable that he's doing the wrong thing here.

Yes, he clearly is infallible.

I've sent multiple emails.

This is also such a bullshit response. What's the point of even being here discussing anything if that's your response? If whatever they do is correct and not worth discussing.....what's our purpose here?

Oh stuff it, jesus christ.

One can disagree with the regime on a chatboard, ace.

Or should we also keep sending Skyy Moore out there for 75% of the routes and using Clyde Edwards Helaire on outside zone runs?