Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5385499)

No, you take them with a grain of salt. You say, wow, they had similar stats, and Sapp was in a MUCH better situation. Dorsey couldn't be labeled as a bust because of that! I'm not saying that he's better than Sapp or anything, I'm just trying to say that hopes were too high for him, and he met realistic expectations easily.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 5385496)

I don't know why this would be taking so long to resolve, other than Hunt is waiting to interview the Raven's guys.

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5385458)

How many times do we have to break up this point?

Sapp

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="stathead" bgcolor="#000000"><td colspan="20">Defense Stats</td></tr> <tr class="colhead" align="right"><td width="8%" align="left">YEAR</td><td width="8%" align="left">TEAM</td> <td>G</td> <td>TOT</td> <td>SOLO</td> <td>AST</td> <td>PD</td> <td>SACK</td> <td>FF</td> <td>REC</td> <td>INT</td> <td>YDS</td> <td>TD</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">1995</td><td align="left">TAM</td><td>16</td> <td>26</td> <td>16</td> <td>10</td> <td>5</td> <td>3.0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>5</td> <td>1</td></tr></tbody></table>
Dorsey

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="stathead" bgcolor="#c60024"><td colspan="20">Defense Stats</td></tr> <tr class="colhead" align="right"><td width="8%" align="left">YEAR</td><td width="8%" align="left">TEAM</td> <td>G</td> <td>TOT</td> <td>SOLO</td> <td>AST</td> <td>PD</td> <td>SACK</td> <td>FF</td> <td>REC</td> <td>INT</td> <td>YDS</td> <td>TD</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">2008</td><td align="left">KAN</td><td>16</td> <td>46</td> <td>32</td> <td>14</td> <td>1</td> <td>1.0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>

Tell me again that those years aren't similar. If Sapp didn't bust, then Dorsey didn't bust.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 5385496)

I don't know why this would be taking so long to resolve, other than Hunt is waiting to interview the Raven's guys.

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5385502)

Esp. if Pioli wants one of the Ravens as his coach.... We can only hope!

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5385513)

We're not hiring "Johnny The Janitor" here folks, we're hiring the biggest name in the business and it's gonna' take some time.

I still believe any forthcoming press conference will include a new Head Coach as well. No reason to piece-meal it, just hit 'em with the Big Bang all at once.*


*Just like he did with Carl.

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5385513)

We're not hiring "Johnny The Janitor" here folks, we're hiring the biggest name in the business and it's gonna' take some time.

I still believe any forthcoming press conference will include a new Head Coach as well. No reason to piece-meal it, just hit 'em with the Big Bang all at once.*


*Just like he did with Carl.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5385510)

The realistic expectation was that he'd be part of a unit that set an NFL record low number of sacks, more points allowed than under the GROB years and 5 ypc rushing against KC? Those were Trevor Laws expectations, not Dorseys.

Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5385512)

Again, you have to remember our defense was on the field alot. Of course guys are gonna pileup numbers and get tackles? And dorsey is no exception. But don't let those stats blind you?

You gotta shift your focus and attention more towards the other things that he is supposed to do. Like for example, Is he able to contain rushes well enough? Is he able to close and fill in gaps well enough causing RBs to change directions when they run? And to freeup the LB's to make play in the running game. Is he explosive and quick enough at the LOS in passing situations where he can penetrate his way into the backfield and create pressure on the QB forcing him to make a bad throw? Is he strong enough to the point where he can overpower guards, or centers to get that good push at the LOS and prevent the QB from stepping up? Those are a few examples. Whats his technique like?

To look and compare his stats with Warren Sapp and say that they're similar and just because Sapp didn't bust and you say so won't Dorsey is a really not a fair way of judging him.

As a matter of fact, I don't think stats are a good way of evaluating DT play period.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5385509)

We haven't heard any more about the Chiefs, and Pioli, but we also haven't heard anything about Pioli, and any other team, and since he is considered to be the top man league wide, that may be a good thing.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5385549)

This thread is a monster.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5385548)

Yep, the silence is deafening.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 5385523)

This is not the like appointing the secretary of state.... or supreme court justice... there are no hearings... this is freaking football team's general manager. I understand that it is sensitive, but obviously there is some hold up.