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raybec 4 10-02-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 17144178)
The last year Hardman was healthy he caught ~60 passes and had ~700 yards

True but in his second season he caught 41 balls for 560 yards. I am in no way defending Moore, just sayin the busts are comperable IMO.

DJ's left nut 10-02-2023 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17144353)
True but in his second season he caught 41 balls for 560 yards. I am in no way defending Moore, just sayin the busts are comperable IMO.

By the end of his 2nd year Hardman had roughly 1,100 yards on 70 receptions over his first two seasons.

Moore has a LOOOOOONG way to go to get to those figures over his first 2 years. And while Moore had himself a nice punt return against Cincy, Hardman's kickoff return against Houston helped get that thing turned around as well in his rookie season.

I mean you can compare them - but it doesn't stack up favorably for Moore anywhere to speak of.

wachashi 10-02-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17144372)
By the end of his 2nd year Hardman had roughly 1,100 yards on 70 receptions over his first two seasons.

Moore has a LOOOOOONG way to go to get to those figures over his first 2 years. And while Moore had himself a nice punt return against Cincy, Hardman's kickoff return against Houston helped get that thing turned around as well in his rookie season.

I mean you can compare them - but it doesn't stack up favorably for Moore anywhere to speak of.

Hardman also had Hill and Watkins in front of him in 2019 and 2020. Moore's had a more favorable situation to earn targets. He just hasn't.

PAChiefsGuy 10-02-2023 03:51 PM

Dude shows flashes but I don't think he has the ability to consistently do anything exceptionally well that will allow him to ever become an above average WR.

Hopefully he proves me wrong but I just haven't seen it this far in his career.

Bump 10-02-2023 03:55 PM

Sauce Gardener probably took away his side of the field, I didn't hear his name much last night probably because Andy wouldn't gameplan to throw to the best CB in the NFL. Maybe Skyy occupied that side, I didn't watch closely enough at the Jets defense to see where Sauce was at but that probably has something to do with it.

suzzer99 10-02-2023 03:58 PM

I'm getting Speaks vibes.

Pepe Silvia 10-02-2023 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17144221)
Yeah, starting to get a similar feeling.

MEH just became bulletproof for some odd reason. I'm hopeful Moore doesn't get the same treatment.

But in the end there sure are a lot of similarities in how they've been treated. And at least MEH did have a quality game or two early on here. That's more than can really be said of Skyy.

Part of it is not wanting to admit they made a mistake.

DJ's left nut 10-02-2023 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17144407)
Sauce Gardener probably took away his side of the field, I didn't hear his name much last night probably because Andy wouldn't gameplan to throw to the best CB in the NFL. Maybe Skyy occupied that side, I didn't watch closely enough at the Jets defense to see where Sauce was at but that probably has something to do with it.

Yeah - I'm sure they had Sauce Gardner following Skyy Moore.

That checks out...

ToxSocks 10-02-2023 04:10 PM

At one point Sauce was defending Justyn Ross.

Now, that was suppose to the moment where he snags a one handed pass over Sauce's head for an 80 yard TD and puts his name on the map, leading to Demi Lovato gargling his balls the next day.

But we're 4 games in and that's yet to happen.

Ross has as much experience with the playbook as Skyy Moore and KT, and even more than rice. What gives?

dmahurin 10-02-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17144421)
Yeah - I'm sure they had Sauce Gardner following Skyy Moore.

That checks out...

That's a common tactic. Use the number 1 CB on the number 2 WR to erase them and then double the number 1 option. Not calling him a number 2 receiver but he may have been the guy to be blanked while he was on the field.

Mecca 10-02-2023 04:12 PM

The Jets actually don't move their CBs so you could lineup Jackdick mc shit **** on the side Gardner is on and that's who he's covering.

Easy 6 10-02-2023 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17144436)
At one point Sauce was defending Justyn Ross.

Now, that was suppose to the moment where he snags a one handed pass over Sauce's head for an 80 yard TD and puts his name on the map, leading to Demi Lovato gargling his balls the next day.

But we're 4 games in and that's yet to happen.

Ross has as much experience with the playbook as Skyy Moore and KT, and even more than rice. What gives?

Man who even knows whats going on there, he's getting on the field some but isn't being targeted

ToxSocks 10-02-2023 04:15 PM

As far as Hardman goes: Always was criminally under rated on CP.

No, he's demonstrated that he isn't a natural, nuanced WR. But he didn't always have to be either.

Chris Meck 10-02-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17144436)
At one point Sauce was defending Justyn Ross.

Now, that was suppose to the moment where he snags a one handed pass over Sauce's head for an 80 yard TD and puts his name on the map, leading to Demi Lovato gargling his balls the next day.

But we're 4 games in and that's yet to happen.

Ross has as much experience with the playbook as Skyy Moore and KT, and even more than rice. What gives?

I'm guessing it's the investment. Giving the second rounders first shot. Ross isn't getting nearly the same snaps because Skyy and Rice are. Don't want all the newbies in together.

Just my guess.

I'm hopeful that they give him more of a shot soon.

I'm not seeing much from Moore. I'm not giving up quite yet but he's not going where Mahomes expects him to. I saw that last night on the little out Pat was expecting him to cut back and he just rounded it off.

ToxSocks 10-02-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers (Post 17144449)
Man who even knows whats going on there, he's getting on the field some but isn't being targeted

You most often see him on the field early in the game (not sure about last night).

Against the Bears, he was part of the first 15 play install. Which tells you that the Chiefs are trying....


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