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staylor26 01-25-2020 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14751579)
The Seahawks and Cards have garbage offensive lines.

Tell me about it. The Chiefs have the better QB, OL, and weapons. The fact that the Seahawks and the Cardinals put up 20+ in all 4 games is not a good sign, and to try and use those games as examples of how the 49ers can stop Mahomes and this offense is reeruned.

Basileus777 01-25-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14751305)
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What are these people even talking about? They played the Patriots who had the best pass defense in the league. And that backend with Belichick coaching it is way better built to stop Mahomes than SF.
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RunKC 01-25-2020 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14751460)
The 49ers passing D isn’t even that good.

It’s their pass rush.

People are really underestimating the mismatch there.

Mahomes is going to torch their poor corners outside of Sherman. Those guys are not good enough to hang with Tyreek and Mecole.

Let Sherman have Sammy while we destroy their other corners

Why Not? 01-25-2020 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14751597)
Mahomes is going to torch their poor corners outside of Sherman. Those guys are not good enough to hang with Tyreek and Mecole.

Let Sherman have Sammy while we destroy their other corners

Dude if Sherman covers Tyreek it will be an absolute bloodbath. Sherman makes his hay these days on his knowledge of routes and anticipation. Tyreek would leave him so far behind on a go route, it wouldn’t be funny.

staylor26 01-25-2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14751600)
Dude if Sherman covers Tyreek it will be an absolute bloodbath. Sherman makes his hay these days on his knowledge of routes and anticipation. Tyreek would leave him so far behind on a go route, it wouldn’t be funny.

Yea I don’t think we should necessarily be avoiding Sherman though we should still take advantage of the mismatches elsewhere.

ThaVirus 01-25-2020 07:00 PM

I like the thought of attacking Sherman when he's on an island or on off-script plays when Mahomes is out of the pocket, but Patrick has to be smart about going to his side.

A8bil 01-25-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14751582)
Tell me about it. The Chiefs have the better QB, OL, and weapons. The fact that the Seahawks and the Cardinals put up 20+ in all 4 games is not a good sign, and to try and use those games as examples of how the 49ers can stop Mahomes and this offense is reeruned.

Let me see...i answered a simple question about how the 49ers D-Line did against mobile QBs, and posted the stats. Now, am I "reeruned" for simply answering a question, or are you "reeruned" for claiming I was making an argument about how th 49ers can stop Mahomes? Seems like you have deep reading comprehension problems. Have you graduated HS yet?

staylor26 01-25-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14751621)
I like the thought of attacking Sherman when he's on an island or on off-script plays when Mahomes is out of the pocket, but Patrick has to be smart about going to his side.

I’d like to start off the game lining up Robinson/Hardman on Sherman’s side so we can take advantage of the mismatches early and the offense can get in rhythm. After that you can start making Sherman run with Tyreek a little, but yea you don’t want to make mental errors when throwing his way.

The Franchise 01-25-2020 07:10 PM

I have a feeling that the 49ers are going to be playing a lot two deep so that they take away the deep shots. They’re going to make our offense move the ball down the field play by play and hope for a turnover, a penalty or a sack.

DRM08 01-25-2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14751635)
I have a feeling that the 49ers are going to be playing a lot two deep so that they take away the deep shots. They’re going to make our offense move the ball down the field play by play and hope for a turnover, a penalty or a sack.

Yep, their DC confirmed this in his press conference earlier this week. He said their #1 priority is to take away the most explosive plays.

A8bil 01-25-2020 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 14751589)
What are these people even talking about? They played the Patriots who had the best pass defense in the league. And that backend with Belichick coaching it is way better built to stop Mahomes than SF.
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Yeah, the Pats defense is great. I only posted stats showing the 49ers defensive line, when healthy, gets to the QB at a pace that happens maybe once a decade. Sacks are just one stat...as I have acknowledged, 49ers have shown they are vulnerable to fast scrambling QBs who can prolong plays. The 49ers secondary is very good when the QB is pressured to get rid of the ball quickly. When the play drags out, they lose coverage.

wachashi 01-25-2020 07:18 PM

Sherman is slow. He's a system CB.

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pugsnotdrugs19 01-25-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14751635)
I have a feeling that the 49ers are going to be playing a lot two deep so that they take away the deep shots. They’re going to make our offense move the ball down the field play by play and hope for a turnover, a penalty or a sack.

It’d be a real knuckleball, these Seattle style schemes don’t ever veer too far off of the beaten cover 3 path...

I think the reason it works pretty well is cause they do it so much that they have to be good at it.

NFL offenses have kinda caught on to how to attack it now though, so if you don’t great players, it doesn’t really work.

Megatron96 01-25-2020 08:20 PM

Containing Mahomes with just four DL is a huge ask, IMO. I don't think they can do it for 4 quarters. I don't think they can do it for a whole series.

They're going to have to have a LB or a S spy Pat. It's just about the only way.

That leaves just 6 DBs in coverage. They have to high bracket Hill and double Kelce. They just ran out of guys to cover. So they're going to have to mix things up somehow, but every time they rush just four with no spy, Pat is going to carve them up.

They only question is can our defense generate enough stops to get a win? I think they can. Just a couple key stops in the second half will be enough.

New World Order 01-25-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14751635)
I have a feeling that the 49ers are going to be playing a lot two deep so that they take away the deep shots. They’re going to make our offense move the ball down the field play by play and hope for a turnover, a penalty or a sack.

That's what they did last year and we screened em to death.

Andy is going to pwnd Saleh, no matter what scheme he comes up with.


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