Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16204206)

Too quiet.

I'd really like to see them do something sooner rather than later.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16204240)

Some of these guys left would probably be better off just waiting to sign after the draft to a team that misses out on a rusher.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16204214)

Something of note that I think is worth bringing up is that we seem to draft for a year in advance of the hole being open.

21:We had Hitch, we took Bolton.
21:We had Blythe, we took Creed.
20: We had Damien, we took CEH (luxury, dumb, but we did). Then DW opted out.
19: We had Sammy, we took Mecole (also, Tyreek stuff was breaking/scary)

So, who are the notable upcoming replaceable starting players in 2023?
2 WR: Mecole Hardman, maybe JuJu since its a 1 year deal
2 DE: Frank Clark + whatever random ass vet/s we sign
1 S: Juan Thornhill
1 DT: Derick Nnadi

I think we're going to pick a DE or a WR. Also, Veach is huge on value, and those are 2 of the highest paid positions as of late, so 4/5 years of quality play on a rookie deal at those positions specifically is really important.

Generally speaking, there are a lot more WR's than DE's out there each year when looking at FA, Trades, & Draft, so DE would be the biggest area to address with this pick.

I'm just not sure the available talent will be worth the pick at that spot, so WR won't surprise me.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16204220)

Chris Jones' contract is about to balloon. We're probably a 2 years from him needing replaced rather than 1 but he should at least be on your list.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16204222)

I agree with you but you have to add Jones in there as well. His cap hit next year is around $29 million, I believe. He’ll be 29 and I’m not sure Veach is willing to give him another contract. I’d have to check but I think Saunders is almost gone as well.

Originally Posted by kgrund (Post 16204224)

Do not leave Chris Jones off that list. A best case scenario would be to get Wyatt and he is dynamite and we release or trade CJ for big cap savings.

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16204256)

Convince me Za'darius isn't Frank Clark 2.0, I honestly just don't know that much about him.

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16204256)

Convince me Za'darius isn't Frank Clark 2.0, I honestly just don't know that much about him.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16204263)

A plus is that we wouldn’t be trading picks to get him.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16204157)

Thought I would put this here. The Browns did us a massive favor. Tom Pelissero was just on GMF talking about this contract and how livid many other GM’s were about this deal bc it altered the QB market.

He specifically mentioned GM’s with upcoming QB contract negotiations that will happen in the next year. Also mentioned a lot of those GM’s being in the AFC competing against Watson specifically.

You know who is about to pay their QB’s new big time contracts?

Raiders
Broncos
Chargers

Look at how much guaranteed money Watson got compare to everyone else? So yeah these big moves by the divisional teams are temporary and they will have problems soon enough. No to mention loss of draft picks from Denver

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16204266)

That's the biggest difference. He likely also won't get the money Clark got. The numbers we saw for the Baltimore deal were about HALF of what the Chiefs gave Clark.

Originally Posted by Toad (Post 16204275)

Such a great point. In the AFC West alone, it puts a lot of immediate pressure to win big now. Current QB contracts end:
Herbert 2023
Wilson 2023
Carr 2022
Mahomes 2031

With the Browns setting the new bar on QB’s, there is gonna be some cake spent on QB’s in the Division within the next 2 years!

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16204287)

Expanding out to the AFC:
Lamar: Very soon.
Burrow: 2023

Allen has already been extended.