Yes, because both of those guys easily exceeded their draft position you butt****ing moron.

"I'd take Tom Brady over Caleb Williams. And he was drafted in the 6th round!"

You'd have a point if you had some receipts on Rice and Reed last year, but you're 100% operating in hindsight.

I'd take Rice over those guys too, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have these guys with higher grades than I did Rice. That's how discussing the draft actually ****ing works.

My reading comprehension is fine, you're just too ****ing stupid to argue with.

It's astonishing really.

Irrelevant to the point made.

We know their value now. I would prefer either over the prospects you named.

Actual NFL teams look at prospects not just against each other but compared to prior and future classes.

I don't think Worthy compares to Moore well at all. And not really to Toney (who wasn't a raw speed player like Worthy and Hardman).

Worthy definitely is a fair comparison to Hardman. And I would say he fares favorably to Mecole. Size/speed is pretty similar (5-9/170 vs. 5-9/180) and they're both 4.3 flat type runners.

But Worthy seems to me to have much better ability to change direction without losing speed (IE, can he run WASP) and was obviously drastically more productive and developed as a receiver.

Worthy lists himself at 170. Let's see what he actually weighs in at.

He looks incredibly thin and breakable.

And look at pictures from the combine and see if maybe he pulled a Zay Flowers and put on bulk for the weigh-ins before cutting it for the season...

Why would this man say this? LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adona Mitchell says he has separated himself from other WRs by “just being me.” Also said he never runs routes full speed, which allows him to run routes for the entire drive. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine2024?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine2024</a> <a href="https://t.co/2NtHguXoZQ">pic.twitter.com/2NtHguXoZQ</a></p>&mdash; Ryan McDowell (@RyanMc23) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanMc23/status/1763556564827357364?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sounds like an Alpha.



Like how Mahomes says he would have ran a faster 40 if a DL was chasing him.

This whole "alpha" schtick has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site.

One of the premier NFL scouting front offices has identified a WR.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Ravens and Adonai Mitchell met at the combine… <a href="https://t.co/JJzGHq2KvY">pic.twitter.com/JJzGHq2KvY</a></p>&mdash; RAMEY (@HoodieRamey) <a href="https://twitter.com/HoodieRamey/status/1763628294530900289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No thanks on Mitchell

Mahomes won't get to be a game manager like Alex Smith if we give him real NFL WR talent.

When asked which QB he'd love to run some routes for in training camp..Ladd Mcconkey said one name...PATRICK MAHOMES. He was waxing lyrical about Pat.

I'm digging into his tape tbh because he might be a real option for us.

I think I'm kinda settled on a few things now. I honestly don't like Worthy. My issue with him is I don't see the lateral agility some have mentioned, I think he's a pretty average route runner, and his lack of strength does show up at times. He's a poor man's Franklin imo, if we want a field stretcher I'd try and move up for him because I think he's a good deal better than Worthy. All that said, I absolutely think Worthy's speed is legit and most teams will find a way to use it so that he can have some success.

Mitchell is an interesting one. I think his ceiling is much higher than Worthy's but of those 2 and Franklin he has the biggest bust potential, just because of the athletic profile. Imo he's a significantly better route runner than Worthy. If his 40 is decent I'd say I'd have him a fair bit higher.

My preference is we find a way to get Franklin. I wouldn't take Worthy at 32. I might roll the dice and take Mitchell.

I saw Brock Bowers said the same thing

The only thing that's irrelevant is where Rice and Reed went in the draft last year. They're both great young WRs that have already shown it. Of course anybody would take the proven commodity over what will/should be available at 32.

It's amazing how difficult logic is for you.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas WR #1 Xavier Worthy is adept at varying speeds. This time, he knows he has a mismatch with the S. He&#39;s deliberate with his stem, lulling the S into a false sense, then gives a head fake to the outside and bursts right by the S. Tracking on full display here, too. <a href="https://t.co/Z3y0lWeW4H">pic.twitter.com/Z3y0lWeW4H</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1755207993635840343?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You all good it was too early for a company meeting or I would normally make the connection ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Connor Rodgers asked these WRs which quarterback they would most like to catch passes from:<br><br>- Brian Thomas Jr.<br>- Keon Coleman<br>- Troy Franklin<br>- Adonai Mitchell<br>- Ladd McConkey<br><br>The one unanimous answer was Patrick Mahomes.</p>&mdash; Zack Eisen (@zackeisen21) <a href="https://twitter.com/zackeisen21/status/1763724388183240955?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow Worthy is not 6’1” . He isn’t going rd 1

Height: 5-11 2/8
Weight: 165
Arm: 31.12
Hand: 8.75
Wingspan: 74.25

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2024 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> key measurements thread...<br><br>175. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Oregon?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Oregon</a> WR Troy Franklin<br><br>Height: 6-1 7/8<br>Weight: 176<br>Arm: 31 7/8<br>Hand: 8 6/8<br>Wingspan: 77 2/8</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1763960013809484230?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2024 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> key measurements thread...<br><br>176. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texas?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texas</a> WR Adonai Mitchell<br><br>Height: 6-2 2/8<br>Weight: 205<br>Arm: 32 3/8<br>Hand: 9<br>Wingspan: 77 5/8</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1763960828489777497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A little disappointing for sure, but won't stop Andy and Veach from taking him at 32 if they think he's the next DJax.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/KOsY1RF6Io">https://t.co/KOsY1RF6Io</a> <a href="https://t.co/m7VgWXnl2B">pic.twitter.com/m7VgWXnl2B</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1763960288057930175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tank Dell is 5’10.

I don’t see the problem. IMO Dell would be a first rounder if they redid that draft.

If they get a top 50 pick for Sneed they can get Worthy. I think he’ll be there

;)


I’ll take the bigger, stronger WR who runs better routes and has better hands and plays at a weight 40 lbs more.

Worthy is DJax as MEH is Brian Westbrook.

Worthy is really small. Some sites said he was 6’2”. With the depth of this class, I would be surprised if he’s available with our 2nd round pick.

You guys acting like Worthy just measured 5'8-1/4" and not 5'11-1/4"... JFC

My biggest concerns with Worthy, Franklin, and McConkey are their sub-9" hand sizes. I don't like that statistic. I'm fine with their sizes.

Jalen McMillan though, he just solidified his spot handily on my board 6'1" 197 with 10" hands. If he runs well mmmmmmmmmmm.

Don't you know....WRs under 6 foot are NEVER drafted in the first round.

Right lol... If Worthy runs in the 4.2s, which is entirely possible, they'll be back to drooling :D

Yup I’m with DJ on McMillan unless he bombs his workout. Betting he runs in the 4.3’s

When was the last time a WR under 170 lbs was drafted in the 1st rd?

Brandin Cooks is only 10 lbs heavier than him and you act like nobody can put on weight.

I mean, are you worried about 9 lbs under Jordan Addison if he runs a 4.29 instead of a 4.49?

I hope Buffalo drafts the 160 lb WR and then when he breaks they can cry about all their injuries even though their roster is loaded with glass guys and old dudes.

Let’s say there’s a small disparity between Worthy and McMillan’s 40. Say Worthy runs a 4.34 40 and McMillan runs a 4.37 40.

Who would you choose? I’d go McMillan bc he’s talker and 30 lbs heavier

Worth drops to our 2nd round pick is perfect

You're right. Zero similarities whatsoever, except for size, speed, start/stop ability, skill set, etc.

Does that mean he will be DJax? No, but you don't get to just pretend the similarities aren't there.

On the height thing... What's his nuts from Michigan... Roman Wilson... he was listed at like 6'1" 192 or something like that by UofM all year long and he's 5'10" and change. So, I mean, are we really surprised that Worthy is 5'11" and change?

I'm really looking forward to times on Keon Coleman, Adonai Mitchell, Jalen McMillan, JaLynn Polk, and Ricky Pearsall right now. I'm confident in Franklin and Worthy running real fast.

I don't think I've ever been this anxious to see an entire group's 40.

I’ve been waiting an entire year. Last years WR class was not fast LMAO

DiJax would be a top 15 NFL WR if he stepped on the field today.

Worthy ain’t close.

You’re ****ing annoying.

I think you way overrate one WR while way underrate another. You should probably face up to the fact that Worthy was the reason Adonai ALWAYS had one-on-one matchups against the least talented DB on the field. That doesn't indicate who will be the better pro, but Worthy is about as close to DJax as a prospect as we've seen in a while with his speed and ability to track down the field without losing that speed.

Skyy has huge hands and it doesn’t help him at all


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We’ll have to agree to disagree.

He doesn’t have the elite COD of a Hollywood or DJax.

If you draft a tiny tot they need another elite trait to pair with speed.

Worthy does not have one.

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Franklin and Legette are going to have some great times to go with those verticals. I can feel it.

Legette killing the combine so far.

Gould in the later rounds would be a great pick. He'd make STs better as a start and I'm pretty sure he'd knock Moore off this roster.

Troy Franklin ran 4.4

Not great for a 6'1" 176 pound player

Adonai Mitchell ran a 4.35

Adonai Mitchell 4.35 LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adonai Mitchell runs a 4.35 on his first attempt ��*�� <a href="https://t.co/O1zmodVB5C">pic.twitter.com/O1zmodVB5C</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1764025604549050558?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Too SLOWWWWWW

Keon Coleman 4.64 ouch

AD Mitchell

6' 2" 205 lbs and just ran a 4.35 forty

Other than his interview where he came across a bit simple, he's having is having a great combine.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adonai Mitchell is a WR prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored an unofficial 9.97 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAS?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAS</a> out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 11 out of 3063 WR from 1987 to 2024. <br><br>Splits projected<a href="https://t.co/c09xGIzxUh">https://t.co/c09xGIzxUh</a> <a href="https://t.co/C472ROzkQ6">pic.twitter.com/C472ROzkQ6</a></p>&mdash; Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) <a href="https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1764025909017805014?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not athletic enough.

Well he definitely doesn't look quite that athletic on tape, but it's still very impressive, and certainly means he's going before 32 now.

What about drafting Mitchell, signing Mooney, and bringing Hardman back?

Add major speed all around Rice and Kelce.

So far…

Good:

McConkey 4.43
Legette 4.47
Gould 4.40

Disappointing:
McMillan 4.49
Baker 4.54
Coleman 4.62 (2nd try faster)
Franklin 4.41…expected somewhere in the 4.3’s

We have to trade up for Adonai, probably 15-20.

It’s pointless taking about Mitchell. He’ll be picked an hour before we’re even on the clock LMAO

He probably get picked around 18-24 now

After this combine, most likely.

If he slips a bit more, I’d be tempted.

Yep, would take him over Worthy and by a distance

Not all of these guys can go early. I liked Franklin and still do. I liked Mitchell and now like him more. I think we'll get one at 32 or be real close.

Don’t ruin my boner please

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas WR Adonai Mitchell at the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a>:<br><br>• 39.5&quot; vertical<br>• 11&#39;4&quot; broad jump<br>• 6&#39;2 1/4&quot;, 205 pounds<br>• 32 3/8&quot; arms<br>• 4.35 40-yard dash<br><br>Specimen. <a href="https://t.co/PzuGxIfhSS">pic.twitter.com/PzuGxIfhSS</a></p>&mdash; Jacob Infante (@jacobinfante24) <a href="https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1764025638153793591?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adonai Mitchell has a crazy vertical… <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/uPXJoXtYq5">pic.twitter.com/uPXJoXtYq5</a></p>&mdash; 704 Dawg (@FSFRecruits) <a href="https://twitter.com/FSFRecruits/status/1417670327669338116?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Legette just ran a 4.39 on his 2nd try. He’s 220 lbs LMAO

Legette just ran 4.39

He is a monster and the receiver is would be most excited about (outside of a top 15 pick trade up)

Im telling you he is working his way into round 1 consideration

LMAO

Franklin's going to be a better Hyatt. Good long speed, great releases, good YAC. He'd still be a good option at 32 and I think he's there. But man, Mitchell...i did think he was faster than some suggested, he always looked like he had another gear. Kind of a shame

McConkey just bumped his time up to 4.40 on his 2nd try

Bottom line I think we're either getting a really good WR or a really good athlete who could become one.

If this offense adds mooney and a guy like legette, we are ****ing set


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Man. I know he doesn’t have the body of work, but XL is very intriguing to me.

Definitely out on him

Did not have McConkey running a faster 40 than Franklin on my bingo card.

Adonai still the #4 on my board.

Nabers
Harrison
Odunze
Mitchell
Thomas Jr.

And that ends my 1st round graded guys


No change needed

Agree 100% with Harms here

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">His 40 preparation is absurd. That’s not on tape but good for him! <a href="https://t.co/LJ4mJ1J7Us">https://t.co/LJ4mJ1J7Us</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1764027137499992266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just take the L, Danny.